Apparently we're going to lose another 5-8(!) players this coming offseason. The players were behind the coach, and they did not appreciate the way that his firing was leaked.

I think we've lost somewhere around 12-16 players in the last four "windows". To be fair to the new AD, Conroy's had a number of defections happen under his watch before.

The new HC gets to build an entire team from scratch. There will be almost no "holdovers" once everything is said and done.

That can be either really good or really bad depending on how the team comes together.

Larry had people leave and he brought in Nic Moore and others

(03-13-2016 07:22 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Larry had people leave and he brought in Nic Moore and others

So Tulane will be banned from the postseason in a few years?


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(03-13-2016 07:24 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 07:22 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Larry had people leave and he brought in Nic Moore and others

So Tulane will be banned from the postseason in a few years?


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Would do it all over again in a heartbeat

(03-13-2016 07:11 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Apparently we're going to lose another 5-8(!) players this coming offseason. The players were behind the coach, and they did not appreciate the way that his firing was leaked.

I think we've lost somewhere around 12-16 players in the last four "windows". To be fair to the new AD, Conroy's had a number of defections happen under his watch before.

The new HC gets to build an entire team from scratch. There will be almost no "holdovers" once everything is said and done.

Just hire a good coach and let him do his work.

(03-13-2016 07:24 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 07:22 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Larry had people leave and he brought in Nic Moore and others

So Tulane will be banned from the postseason in a few years?


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SMU came way out ahead in that deal.

(03-13-2016 07:11 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Apparently we're going to lose another 5-8(!) players this coming offseason. The players were behind the coach, and they did not appreciate the way that his firing was leaked.

I think we've lost somewhere around 12-16 players in the last four "windows". To be fair to the new AD, Conroy's had a number of defections happen under his watch before.

The new HC gets to build an entire team from scratch. There will be almost no "holdovers" once everything is said and done.

So be it. I'm tired of Conroy. He lost a bunch of players a few years ago, pretty good ones at that. We need to get a coach that will bring us to where we need to be. And, as our AD says, in the top half of our league.

Losing players off a 3-15 team is not the worst thing in the world.

(03-13-2016 08:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Losing players off a 3-15 team is not the worst thing in the world.

How do you handle APR though? The transfer rules are brutal. It's the only place you get hit. If the players dont carry a 2.7 GPA, they count against you. Whereas the kids who turn pro are allowed to carry a 2.0 GPA. It is crazy.

(03-13-2016 08:39 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 08:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Losing players off a 3-15 team is not the worst thing in the world.

How do you handle APR though? The transfer rules are brutal. It's the only place you get hit. If the players dont carry a 2.7 GPA, they count against you. Whereas the kids who turn pro are allowed to carry a 2.0 GPA. It is crazy.

Good question. Tulane's men's basketball is 974 and 975 for the last two years reported, so maybe they are in good shape.

(03-13-2016 08:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Losing players off a 3-15 team is not the worst thing in the world.

If we do lose players because of this situation, and it could have been handled a bit better, then I wish them well. These young men put it on the line for my university and I'm grateful for that. However, if they go, good luck and hope to see you soon.

(03-13-2016 08:44 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 08:39 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 08:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Losing players off a 3-15 team is not the worst thing in the world.

How do you handle APR though? The transfer rules are brutal. It's the only place you get hit. If the players dont carry a 2.7 GPA, they count against you. Whereas the kids who turn pro are allowed to carry a 2.0 GPA. It is crazy.

Good question. Tulane's men's basketball is 974 and 975 for the last two years reported, so maybe they are in good shape.

APR measures whether your players are progressing properly academically. Our players do that. They are not transferring because they are flunking or not academically progressing.

What they do AFTER they transfer doesn't affect our APR.

And what's the point of this thread on this board? Posting some rumors just to air the laundry...when the process of changing coaches and the shakeouts has just begun? Good gracious, man.

It is abundantly clear Tulane is The American's greatest asset.

(03-13-2016 08:39 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 08:34 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Losing players off a 3-15 team is not the worst thing in the world.

How do you handle APR though? The transfer rules are brutal. It's the only place you get hit. If the players dont carry a 2.7 GPA, they count against you. Whereas the kids who turn pro are allowed to carry a 2.0 GPA. It is crazy.

As long players transfer out in good standing, there isn't a hit on APR.

Team's get hit on APR is when players stop going to class (i.e. Spring Semester...maybe getting ready to go pro) and leave with poor grades.

That's why 40% of players now eventually transfer out from the team they sign with...because coaches allow/encourage some players to transfer (especially if in good academic standing) if they don't fit their system and/or those coaches find better players to replace them.

Wouldn't mind picking up Dylan Osetkowski.

(03-13-2016 07:11 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Apparently we're going to lose another 5-8(!) players this coming offseason. The players were behind the coach, and they did not appreciate the way that his firing was leaked.

I think we've lost somewhere around 12-16 players in the last four "windows". To be fair to the new AD, Conroy's had a number of defections happen under his watch before.

The new HC gets to build an entire team from scratch. There will be almost no "holdovers" once everything is said and done.

It doesn’t surprise me that players would leave based on how it was handled and the connection they have to the coach who recruited him. I’ve only seen a couple interviews with Conroy but he seems like a genuinely good guy.

When players see that a new coach is coming in who may coach a style that doesn’t fit their games it’s not surprising that they start looking at the option to jump to a place where they may feel more comfortable. It’s all part of the rebuilding process and for the right coach won’t be a problem.

That's par for the course when you fire someone. Thankfully its Tulane, so you would assume there is some student in the student-athlete.

Conroy is a nice guy, but he was in over his head in this conference. He may have made some noise in CUSA.

Have no idea how Tulane competes in the American. The only way I can see it is if they hire a big name coach that has very good recruiting ties. Heard the name Seth Greenburg...that may work...but honestly I think it has to be a bigger name...like SMU did with Larry Brown and Houston did with Kelvin Sampson.

(03-13-2016 11:06 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  It is abundantly clear Tulane is The American's greatest asset.

Sorta like louiseville in the acc

(03-14-2016 09:19 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 07:11 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Apparently we're going to lose another 5-8(!) players this coming offseason. The players were behind the coach, and they did not appreciate the way that his firing was leaked.

I think we've lost somewhere around 12-16 players in the last four "windows". To be fair to the new AD, Conroy's had a number of defections happen under his watch before.

The new HC gets to build an entire team from scratch. There will be almost no "holdovers" once everything is said and done.

It doesn’t surprise me that players would leave based on how it was handled and the connection they have to the coach who recruited him. I’ve only seen a couple interviews with Conroy but he seems like a genuinely good guy.

When players see that a new coach is coming in who may coach a style that doesn’t fit their games it’s not surprising that they start looking at the option to jump to a place where they may feel more comfortable. It’s all part of the rebuilding process and for the right coach won’t be a problem.

Conroy's "style" was atrocious.

He is a very nice guy but is a CUSA caliber coach at best. None of his players develop and he gets slaughtered in the 2nd half of games.