(03-14-2016 09:32 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 09:03 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 07:57 PM)MJG Wrote:  Just a way for shut out schools to join the club.
It's a joke that Coastal is getting the last invite over Montana and NDSU.
THEY are both better in every way than Coastal.
I can ride a bicycle to Coastal and attend a bunch of their games. I own Coastal gear and I'm proud of their achievements. But realistically they are not close to being as good as the two I just mentioned. You could say that about a bunch of current G5 schools.

Do Montana and NDSU want to be FBS? If they did they could have joined the WAC before it imploded. I'm sure if NDSU or Montana were in the Southeast the would have been invited by the Sun Belt - but you can't really compare the current situations between Coastal and those schools just because of the locations.

Coastal was just in the right place (location close to 3 Sun Belt members) at the right time (Sun Belt needing an all sports member in the east) with solid all around sports. Plus JMU didn't want to join the Sun Belt, Liberty was passed over with along with some other schools.

Why is it a joke that Coastal got the invite to the Sun Belt over NDSU or Montana. Granted both would have been better football added to the conference, but football is just one (granted a very important one) of many reasons why a school is added to a conference. Coastal was added to the Sun Belt Conference because they checked off more of the needs of the Sun Belt was looking for in a new member of the conference.
A. All Sports member.
B. Baseball addition to conference improves the conference in baseball.
C. Basketball addition to conference improves the conference in basketball.
D. Men's soccer. Conference had to added a team in this sport to keep the minimal number of teams to sponsor men's soccer.
E. Football program was acceptable to the conference.

Yeah, Montana & NDSU could have easily been FBS before Coastal. This got settled 5 years ago when all the western schools had an opportunity to join the WAC and didn't take it. I'm just going to keep assuming the Montanas and Dakotas are all cowards.

The problem with North Dakota State, they would have been outside of the WAC's footprint as well. Now, they could if Montanas, the Dakotas, Idaho, new Mexico State and some others try to form a new FBS football conference.

Neither Army nor BYU need a scheduling agreement. Both are able to get good home games whenever they need them.

From what I've read UMass is not having any real trouble scheduling games either. Maybe not as easily as Army and BYU, but they have been able to schedule a couple of years out so far. And with games a lot closer than Las Cruces or Moscow.

NMSU and Idaho are on an island all by themselves at this point.

(03-14-2016 12:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem with North Dakota State, they would have been outside of the WAC's footprint as well. Now, they could if Montanas, the Dakotas, Idaho, new Mexico State and some others try to form a new FBS football conference.

In 2011 NDSU would have been squarely inside the WAC's footprint, which at that time would have roughly included any willing school in the northern hemisphere plus most of the moon and half of Mars.

(03-14-2016 01:45 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 12:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem with North Dakota State, they would have been outside of the WAC's footprint as well. Now, they could if Montanas, the Dakotas, Idaho, new Mexico State and some others try to form a new FBS football conference.

In 2011 NDSU would have been squarely inside the WAC's footprint, which at that time would have roughly included any willing school in the northern hemisphere plus most of the moon and half of Mars.

You have done it now, give David new ideas about schools that need to move up. David is now google searching for different school located inside the universe.

How about Jacksonville St they would have been a perfect addition.
Their problem is their geography is too good.

I was thinking the last spot not just a fit for the Sun Belt.

All these teams that could have joined the WAC in a small window of time.
They were all at risk of being stranded like Idaho and NMSU.
Coastal was surprised the SBC asked them a year earlier the answer might have been no.
They were turned down by the Southern and CAA.
For Coastal it was Sun Belt or stuck in the Big South .

I know Army doesn't need another scheduling alliance.
Having more independents just makes scheduling easier.
Same for BYU having more option during conference time makes sense.
U Mass its to early to tell they did have their best recruiting class.
I would think no history in FBS and a 17k home stadium would make it tough.
Boston College doesn't draw that well for an ACC team.
How is U Mass supposed to thrive away from campus and not even in Boston.

I wouldn't be surprised if UNM and UTEP stop playing NMSU.
They could finish off NMSU football by not playing them.

(03-14-2016 03:28 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 01:45 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 12:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem with North Dakota State, they would have been outside of the WAC's footprint as well. Now, they could if Montanas, the Dakotas, Idaho, new Mexico State and some others try to form a new FBS football conference.

In 2011 NDSU would have been squarely inside the WAC's footprint, which at that time would have roughly included any willing school in the northern hemisphere plus most of the moon and half of Mars.

You have done it now, give David new ideas about schools that need to move up. David is now google searching for different school located inside the universe.

Arkansas Tech
DeVry Institute
New Mexico Highlands
Hays State, NE
SUNY Oswego
Jill's School of Beauty

Discuss

(03-14-2016 03:28 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 01:45 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 12:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem with North Dakota State, they would have been outside of the WAC's footprint as well. Now, they could if Montanas, the Dakotas, Idaho, new Mexico State and some others try to form a new FBS football conference.

In 2011 NDSU would have been squarely inside the WAC's footprint, which at that time would have roughly included any willing school in the northern hemisphere plus most of the moon and half of Mars.

You have done it now, give David new ideas about schools that need to move up. David is now google searching for different school located inside the universe.

Well, there is always Mars Hill ...