(03-12-2016 08:26 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  They would have been in the AAC instead of Tulane/Tulsa if their program hadn't tanked right before realignment.

That's a misnomer. They were coming off a big 11 win season in2011-2012. In early season 2012, when ECU and Tulane were added--people knew they wouldn't be good that year--but nobody thought they wouldn't win a game for nearly 2 years. They were skipped over due to lack of market, extremely low budget, and poor academic fit. Nobody expected S Miss to fall like they did. However---in retrospect, it makes one question what the future for S Miss might hold.

At this point, I think there is some question as to whether or not they can be the old S Miss with thier small budget and so much intrusion into thier recruiting grounds with teams like LaTech, UL-L, ASU, Tulane, UAB, and Arky State. Those teams didn't used to be a significant factor--now, as a group--they are much more of a danger to siphon off talent from S Miss. They strung together all those winning years by having a consistent coach who built relationships with area HS coaches and by being THE premier destination of kids passed over by the SEC. Having one coach for years and years and getting that recruiting pipeline built can overcome a lot of budget woes. Can S Miss win year after year like they used to in a new era--who knows? I think they will become more like other G5's. They will win thier shares of games--but they will lose thier share as well.

That said--in the east, assuming Army is unavailable, nobody else is close to S Miss in attendance.

Boy o boy you dont want us in do you?

Nobody on this planet in the right state of mind does.

(03-13-2016 04:00 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  Nobody on this planet in the right state of mind does.

If there is anyone on this board who should avoid using the phrase "right state of mind," it is you sir.

(03-13-2016 04:00 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 08:26 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  They would have been in the AAC instead of Tulane/Tulsa if their program hadn't tanked right before realignment.

That's a misnomer. They were coming off a big 11 win season in2011-2012. In early season 2012, when ECU and Tulane were added--people knew they wouldn't be good that year--but nobody thought they wouldn't win a game for nearly 2 years. They were skipped over due to lack of market, extremely low budget, and poor academic fit. Nobody expected S Miss to fall like they did. However---in retrospect, it makes one question what the future for S Miss might hold.

At this point, I think there is some question as to whether or not they can be the old S Miss with thier small budget and so much intrusion into thier recruiting grounds with teams like LaTech, UL-L, ASU, Tulane, UAB, and Arky State. Those teams didn't used to be a significant factor--now, as a group--they are much more of a danger to siphon off talent from S Miss. They strung together all those winning years by having a consistent coach who built relationships with area HS coaches and by being THE premier destination of kids passed over by the SEC. Having one coach for years and years and getting that recruiting pipeline built can overcome a lot of budget woes. Can S Miss win year after year like they used to in a new era--who knows? I think they will become more like other G5's. They will win thier shares of games--but they will lose thier share as well.

That said--in the east, assuming Army is unavailable, nobody else is close to S Miss in attendance.

Boy o boy you dont want us in do you?

Nobody on this planet in the right state of mind does.

Your reputation rating is a work of art that could only be conceived if Picasso, Warhol and Mapplethorpe worked simultaneously on a canvas while sharing salvia, K2 and Thunderbird during three-way sexual congress.

(03-12-2016 03:44 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:41 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  We're going to add another program with around 30k avg attendance and no market of which to speak? I'd rather add Marshall if USM is on the table.

You reallu gotta be wary of Marshall though... great support sure and winning ways, but no market and how good can they really be without NQs? There's a reason people refer to Marshall as a glorified JUCO

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I'm not supporting it but if the scenario is one so bad that we are adding usm I'd rather take Marshall.

(03-13-2016 10:24 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 04:00 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 08:26 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  They would have been in the AAC instead of Tulane/Tulsa if their program hadn't tanked right before realignment.

That's a misnomer. They were coming off a big 11 win season in2011-2012. In early season 2012, when ECU and Tulane were added--people knew they wouldn't be good that year--but nobody thought they wouldn't win a game for nearly 2 years. They were skipped over due to lack of market, extremely low budget, and poor academic fit. Nobody expected S Miss to fall like they did. However---in retrospect, it makes one question what the future for S Miss might hold.

At this point, I think there is some question as to whether or not they can be the old S Miss with thier small budget and so much intrusion into thier recruiting grounds with teams like LaTech, UL-L, ASU, Tulane, UAB, and Arky State. Those teams didn't used to be a significant factor--now, as a group--they are much more of a danger to siphon off talent from S Miss. They strung together all those winning years by having a consistent coach who built relationships with area HS coaches and by being THE premier destination of kids passed over by the SEC. Having one coach for years and years and getting that recruiting pipeline built can overcome a lot of budget woes. Can S Miss win year after year like they used to in a new era--who knows? I think they will become more like other G5's. They will win thier shares of games--but they will lose thier share as well.

That said--in the east, assuming Army is unavailable, nobody else is close to S Miss in attendance.

Boy o boy you dont want us in do you?

Nobody on this planet in the right state of mind does.

Your reputation rating is a work of art that could only be conceived if Picasso, Warhol and Mapplethorpe worked simultaneously on a canvas while sharing salvia, K2 and Thunderbird during three-way sexual congress.

Would be LOL funny to watch the AAC fans freak out if this goes down

(03-12-2016 03:41 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  We're going to add another program with around 30k avg attendance and no market of which to speak? I'd rather add Marshall if USM is on the table.

Hattiesburg is nothing to sneeze at. You also have a larger market with Jackson close by. Southern Mississippi is in the heavier populated part of Mississippi than Ole Miss. and Mississippi State. You also have Mobile, Meridian, Gulf Port and Biloxi in that area as well.

(03-13-2016 01:19 PM)TheBasketBallOpinion Wrote:  Would be LOL funny to watch the AAC fans freak out if this goes down

there will be more suicides than the day of the great wall st crash.

(03-13-2016 01:19 PM)TheBasketBallOpinion Wrote:  Would be LOL funny to watch the AAC fans freak out if this goes down

Other than Greenwave16, I don't think anyone cares much one way or another. Not sure if they are the best pick or not, but its probably irrelevant as I think its unlikely we lose just one. So the most likely end to all this is we lose UConn and Cinci---and just soldier one with 10 football schools. Maybe we add Wichita and VCU as non-football members to bolster basketball and restock the baseball league. Both areas would need attention after losing UConn and Cinci.

(03-13-2016 02:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:19 PM)TheBasketBallOpinion Wrote:  Would be LOL funny to watch the AAC fans freak out if this goes down

Other than Greenwave16, I don't think anyone cares much one way or another. Not sure if they are the best pick or not, but its probably irrelevant as I think its unlikely we lose just one. So the most likely end to all this is we lose UConn and Cinci---and just soldier one with 10 football schools. Maybe we add Wichita and VCU as non-football members to bolster basketball and restock the baseball league. Both areas would need attention after losing UConn and Cinci.

Probably the most sensible post so far.

Without UConn & Cincy we are much less attractive to Wichita & VCU.

(03-13-2016 05:09 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Without UConn & Cincy we are much less attractive to Wichita & VCU.

Which is why I have been saying for 2 years we should add them. If want the best league, you add teams when you are strong---not when you are damaged. Apparently, our leadership learned absolutely nothing from their 2012-2013 bumbling.

WSU would like them to stay but won't be a deal killer

(03-13-2016 01:39 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 03:41 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  We're going to add another program with around 30k avg attendance and no market of which to speak? I'd rather add Marshall if USM is on the table.

Hattiesburg is nothing to sneeze at. You also have a larger market with Jackson close by. Southern Mississippi is in the heavier populated part of Mississippi than Ole Miss. and Mississippi State. You also have Mobile, Meridian, Gulf Port and Biloxi in that area as well.

Exciting stuff.

Just think of Hattiesburg as the Tampa of Mississippi.

(03-13-2016 09:12 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  Just think of Hattiesburg as the Tampa of Mississippi.

Are you actively trying to dissuade people?

AAC could add both UAB and Southern Miss. as replacements. One is a strong basketball school, and the other is usually a strong football school.

Wichita State wants to be in the FBS as well.

Lets say the Big 12 takes 4 to 6 AAC schools for their tv network? They lose UConn. Cincinnati, Memphis, East Carolina, USF and UCF.

That leaves Temple, NAVY (football only), Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, and Houston.

(03-14-2016 02:45 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  AAC could add both UAB and Southern Miss. as replacements. One is a strong basketball school, and the other is usually a strong football school.

Wichita State wants to be in the FBS as well.

Lets say the Big 12 takes 4 to 6 AAC schools for their tv network? They lose UConn. Cincinnati, Memphis, East Carolina, USF and UCF.

That leaves Temple, NAVY (football only), Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, and Houston.

You're eating paint chips again. UAB is a start up..they are just thankful they have a program and very fortunate to have a program and really should be FCS right now.

Adding a USM and UAB would actually better centralize the footprint of the AAC. It would cover the Southeast and Texas regions, with a small outlier in Temple.

(03-14-2016 09:31 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Adding a USM and UAB would actually better centralize the footprint of the AAC. It would cover the Southeast and Texas regions, with a small outlier in Temple.

Back in the day (2011) we just used to call that "CUSA".