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Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner and a random truth ...
I have heard Paster and his dozens of supporters defending him and there seems to be a common thread to all of their reasons to keep him:

Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner as head coach of the University of Memphis basketball team
1. Nobody wanted the job last time

2. Memphis fans are delusional

3. Memphis cannot go to a Sweet 16 without cheating, our Sweet 16s in the past were vacated

4.Pastner runs a clean program

5.We can't hire a good coach this time

6. Pastner has not been caught forging grades for players ( like Larry Brown)

7. We cannot afford to pay out his enormous contract

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, people do not want to go downtown

8b Attendance is not Josh's Fault, fans are staying home to watch HD

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, fans quit following the team due to the Grizzlies.

9. Players transferring are not Josh's fault, they have bad attitudes

10. Players under achieving is not Josh'd fault, they we all over rated

Did you notice the common thread? Basically what he and his supporter are saying is that the University of Memphis is an inferior school and the only way we can win at basketball is to cheat.

The only positive argument that has been made is the 4 NCAAs and the 70%+ winning percentage. Well I figured that one out.... How many times has Josh made the NCAA's without Joe? ZERO for Three (4 for 4 with Joe) What is Josh's % without Joe Jackson? 60.8% (76% with Joe)

I know Joe came with other really good players (}Cowboy's Players 03-shhhh), and I know that Josh claimed that Joe was a head case and had too many people in his ear, but as soon as Joe left, the deal fell apart.

I think Josh's and his supporters during Joe's 4 years (that were many at the time --including me) owe Joe Jackson a big thank you and a bit of an apology for doubting him in favor of a coach that cannot win without great players and a great leader like Joe.
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RE: Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner and a random truth ...
I know Justin Wimmer has chimed in.

Have Joe Jackson, Tarik Black, or Chris Crawford come to Pastner's defense the last two years?

If Pastner was such a great coach and a good dude you'd think that at least Joe and Chris would be defending him.
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RE: Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner and a random truth ...
It's really sad all of the talent that this guy has wasted over the years.

That "fo kingz" roster was a Final Four roster. And to think all he could get out of them was a 6 seed and a 2nd round massacre.

And the team that lost to St Louis. That roster was a borderline Final Four roster as well.

What a joke.
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I miss Joe Jackson - helluva player
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Josh apologists. They place him above the program. It's ridiculous and sad.

I still think Josh is feeling the heat, big time, and will sit down with the big shots and figure a way out immediately after the season, which could be tomorrow. It's an unhealthy situation for him and he knows it.
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(03-10-2016 09:52 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  It's really sad all of the talent that this guy has wasted over the years.

That "fo kingz" roster was a Final Four roster. And to think all he could get out of them was a 6 seed and a 2nd round massacre.

And the team that lost to St Louis. That roster was a borderline Final Four roster as well.

What a joke.

Everyone knows my extreme desire to see Pastner go but we got screwed on that seed as did St. Louis. More like a 3/6 game than a 8/9. We were 9th In Ken Pom; 31-4 going into tourney-maybe. Just remember how bad a seed and draw we got. Of course, Pastner lost control at 4 minute mark and it was over.

But not F4 talent. S16 talent. F4 talent is 1996 team that lost to Arkansas on bogus hand check call; 1983 and 1984 Keith Lee led teams that had to play Phi Slamma Jamma in S16 in consecutive years. 1986 team that had to play LSU and the refs on their home floor in 2cd round even though we were a 2 or 3 seed.
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(03-10-2016 07:07 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  I have heard Paster and his dozens of supporters defending him and there seems to be a common thread to all of their reasons to keep him:

Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner as head coach of the University of Memphis basketball team
1. Nobody wanted the job last time

2. Memphis fans are delusional

3. Memphis cannot go to a Sweet 16 without cheating, our Sweet 16s in the past were vacated

4.Pastner runs a clean program

5.We can't hire a good coach this time

6. Pastner has not been caught forging grades for players ( like Larry Brown)

7. We cannot afford to pay out his enormous contract

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, people do not want to go downtown

8b Attendance is not Josh's Fault, fans are staying home to watch HD

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, fans quit following the team due to the Grizzlies.

9. Players transferring are not Josh's fault, they have bad attitudes

10. Players under achieving is not Josh'd fault, they we all over rated

Did you notice the common thread? Basically what he and his supporter are saying is that the University of Memphis is an inferior school and the only way we can win at basketball is to cheat.

The only positive argument that has been made is the 4 NCAAs and the 70%+ winning percentage. Well I figured that one out.... How many times has Josh made the NCAA's without Joe? ZERO for Three (4 for 4 with Joe) What is Josh's % without Joe Jackson? 60.8% (76% with Joe)

I know Joe came with other really good players (}Cowboy's Players 03-shhhh), and I know that Josh claimed that Joe was a head case and had too many people in his ear, but as soon as Joe left, the deal fell apart.

I think Josh's and his supporters during Joe's 4 years (that were many at the time --including me) owe Joe Jackson a big thank you and a bit of an apology for doubting him in favor of a coach that cannot win without great players and a great leader like Joe.

^ this times Josh Pastners buyout amount!!! Spot on. I got blasted on Facebook in one of the Tiger bball groups for stating that Joe would go down as the most underrated tiger of all time. He covered up so many of the deficiencies that we see now.
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(03-10-2016 09:52 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  It's really sad all of the talent that this guy has wasted over the years.

That "fo kingz" roster was a Final Four roster. And to think all he could get out of them was a 6 seed and a 2nd round massacre.

And the team that lost to St Louis. That roster was a borderline Final Four roster as well.

What a joke.

Everyone knows my extreme desire to see Pastner go but we got screwed on that seed as did St. Louis. More like a 3/6 game than a 8/9. We were 9th In Ken Pom; 31-4 going into tourney-maybe. Just remember how bad a seed and draw we got. Of course, Pastner lost control at 4 minute mark and it was over.

But not F4 talent. S16 talent. F4 talent is 1996 team that lost to Arkansas on bogus hand check call; 1983 and 1984 Keith Lee led teams that had to play Phi Slamma Jamma in S16 in consecutive years. 1986 team that had to play LSU and the refs on their home floor in 2cd round even though we were a 2 or 3 seed.
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Dude can kiss my a$$.
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I knew something else was going on when Joe’s grandmother had to tell him to stick it out. Look at all of the transfers and players constantly in his doghouse. Burrell is the new Joe.

Bamu Wrote:Dude can kiss my a$$.

Mine too.
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(03-11-2016 12:48 AM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 07:07 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  I have heard Paster and his dozens of supporters defending him and there seems to be a common thread to all of their reasons to keep him:

Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner as head coach of the University of Memphis basketball team
1. Nobody wanted the job last time

2. Memphis fans are delusional

3. Memphis cannot go to a Sweet 16 without cheating, our Sweet 16s in the past were vacated

4.Pastner runs a clean program

5.We can't hire a good coach this time

6. Pastner has not been caught forging grades for players ( like Larry Brown)

7. We cannot afford to pay out his enormous contract

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, people do not want to go downtown

8b Attendance is not Josh's Fault, fans are staying home to watch HD

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, fans quit following the team due to the Grizzlies.

9. Players transferring are not Josh's fault, they have bad attitudes

10. Players under achieving is not Josh'd fault, they we all over rated

Did you notice the common thread? Basically what he and his supporter are saying is that the University of Memphis is an inferior school and the only way we can win at basketball is to cheat.

The only positive argument that has been made is the 4 NCAAs and the 70%+ winning percentage. Well I figured that one out.... How many times has Josh made the NCAA's without Joe? ZERO for Three (4 for 4 with Joe) What is Josh's % without Joe Jackson? 60.8% (76% with Joe)

I know Joe came with other really good players (}Cowboy's Players 03-shhhh), and I know that Josh claimed that Joe was a head case and had too many people in his ear, but as soon as Joe left, the deal fell apart.

I think Josh's and his supporters during Joe's 4 years (that were many at the time --including me) owe Joe Jackson a big thank you and a bit of an apology for doubting him in favor of a coach that cannot win without great players and a great leader like Joe.

^ this times Josh Pastners buyout amount!!! Spot on. I got blasted on Facebook in one of the Tiger bball groups for stating that Joe would go down as the most underrated tiger of all time. He covered up so many of the deficiencies that we see now.

Beautiful Bobby holds that title imo----Joe could be 2nd.
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(03-10-2016 08:25 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I know Justin Wimmer has chimed in.

Have Joe Jackson, Tarik Black, or Chris Crawford come to Pastner's defense the last two years?

If Pastner was such a great coach and a good dude you'd think that at least Joe and Chris would be defending him.

Justin Wimmer is an idiot. But he can't help it he's a "Hooddale" grad
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(03-11-2016 12:39 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 09:52 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  It's really sad all of the talent that this guy has wasted over the years.

That "fo kingz" roster was a Final Four roster. And to think all he could get out of them was a 6 seed and a 2nd round massacre.

And the team that lost to St Louis. That roster was a borderline Final Four roster as well.

What a joke.

Everyone knows my extreme desire to see Pastner go but we got screwed on that seed as did St. Louis. More like a 3/6 game than a 8/9. We were 9th In Ken Pom; 31-4 going into tourney-maybe. Just remember how bad a seed and draw we got. Of course, Pastner lost control at 4 minute mark and it was over.

But not F4 talent. S16 talent. F4 talent is 1996 team that lost to Arkansas on bogus hand check call; 1983 and 1984 Keith Lee led teams that had to play Phi Slamma Jamma in S16 in consecutive years. 1986 team that had to play LSU and the refs on their home floor in 2cd round even though we were a 2 or 3 seed.

We weren't 31-4 the year we lost to St Louis. That was the next year when we beat St Mary's. We were a 6th seed at 31-4 because our best win was against Southern Miss.
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Accept Pastner as your lord and savior and threads like this will be forgiven
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(03-11-2016 08:17 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(03-11-2016 12:39 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 09:52 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  It's really sad all of the talent that this guy has wasted over the years.

That "fo kingz" roster was a Final Four roster. And to think all he could get out of them was a 6 seed and a 2nd round massacre.

And the team that lost to St Louis. That roster was a borderline Final Four roster as well.

What a joke.

Everyone knows my extreme desire to see Pastner go but we got screwed on that seed as did St. Louis. More like a 3/6 game than a 8/9. We were 9th In Ken Pom; 31-4 going into tourney-maybe. Just remember how bad a seed and draw we got. Of course, Pastner lost control at 4 minute mark and it was over.

But not F4 talent. S16 talent. F4 talent is 1996 team that lost to Arkansas on bogus hand check call; 1983 and 1984 Keith Lee led teams that had to play Phi Slamma Jamma in S16 in consecutive years. 1986 team that had to play LSU and the refs on their home floor in 2cd round even though we were a 2 or 3 seed.

We weren't 31-4 the year we lost to St Louis. That was the next year when we beat St Mary's. We were a 6th seed at 31-4 because our best win was against Southern Miss.

That Xavier loss in the 31-4 year was killer...Win that game and we get a protected seed.
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(03-10-2016 07:07 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  I have heard Paster and his dozens of supporters defending him and there seems to be a common thread to all of their reasons to keep him:

Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner as head coach of the University of Memphis basketball team
1. Nobody wanted the job last time

2. Memphis fans are delusional

3. Memphis cannot go to a Sweet 16 without cheating, our Sweet 16s in the past were vacated

4.Pastner runs a clean program

5.We can't hire a good coach this time

6. Pastner has not been caught forging grades for players ( like Larry Brown)

7. We cannot afford to pay out his enormous contract

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, people do not want to go downtown

8b Attendance is not Josh's Fault, fans are staying home to watch HD

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, fans quit following the team due to the Grizzlies.

9. Players transferring are not Josh's fault, they have bad attitudes

10. Players under achieving is not Josh'd fault, they we all over rated

Did you notice the common thread? Basically what he and his supporter are saying is that the University of Memphis is an inferior school and the only way we can win at basketball is to cheat.

The only positive argument that has been made is the 4 NCAAs and the 70%+ winning percentage. Well I figured that one out.... How many times has Josh made the NCAA's without Joe? ZERO for Three (4 for 4 with Joe) What is Josh's % without Joe Jackson? 60.8% (76% with Joe)

I know Joe came with other really good players (}Cowboy's Players 03-shhhh), and I know that Josh claimed that Joe was a head case and had too many people in his ear, but as soon as Joe left, the deal fell apart.

I think Josh's and his supporters during Joe's 4 years (that were many at the time --including me) owe Joe Jackson a big thank you and a bit of an apology for doubting him in favor of a coach that cannot win without great players and a great leader like Joe.

I highlighted the only true statements of those 10.
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Great thread. And I have said it before and will say it again, I am sorry I took up for Pastner at Joe Jackson's expense those years. Others were right and I was wrong. Joe deserved better from the fans(like myself) and this city.
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(03-11-2016 08:46 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 07:07 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  I have heard Paster and his dozens of supporters defending him and there seems to be a common thread to all of their reasons to keep him:

Top 10 Reasons to keep Pastner as head coach of the University of Memphis basketball team
1. Nobody wanted the job last time

2. Memphis fans are delusional

3. Memphis cannot go to a Sweet 16 without cheating, our Sweet 16s in the past were vacated

4.Pastner runs a clean program

5.We can't hire a good coach this time

6. Pastner has not been caught forging grades for players ( like Larry Brown)

7. We cannot afford to pay out his enormous contract

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, people do not want to go downtown

8b Attendance is not Josh's Fault, fans are staying home to watch HD

8c Attendance is not Josh's fault, fans quit following the team due to the Grizzlies.

9. Players transferring are not Josh's fault, they have bad attitudes

10. Players under achieving is not Josh'd fault, they we all over rated

Did you notice the common thread? Basically what he and his supporter are saying is that the University of Memphis is an inferior school and the only way we can win at basketball is to cheat.

The only positive argument that has been made is the 4 NCAAs and the 70%+ winning percentage. Well I figured that one out.... How many times has Josh made the NCAA's without Joe? ZERO for Three (4 for 4 with Joe) What is Josh's % without Joe Jackson? 60.8% (76% with Joe)

I know Joe came with other really good players (}Cowboy's Players 03-shhhh), and I know that Josh claimed that Joe was a head case and had too many people in his ear, but as soon as Joe left, the deal fell apart.

I think Josh's and his supporters during Joe's 4 years (that were many at the time --including me) owe Joe Jackson a big thank you and a bit of an apology for doubting him in favor of a coach that cannot win without great players and a great leader like Joe.

I highlighted the only true statements of those 10.

Number 4 should read as far as we know
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(03-10-2016 11:05 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh apologists. They place him above the program. It's ridiculous and sad.

I still think Josh is feeling the heat, big time, and will sit down with the big shots and figure a way out immediately after the season, which could be tomorrow. It's an unhealthy situation for him and he knows it.


It's an even more unhealthy situation for our program if he stays.
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(03-11-2016 02:06 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  I knew something else was going on when Joe’s grandmother had to tell him to stick it out. Look at all of the transfers and players constantly in his doghouse. Burrell is the new Joe.

Bamu Wrote:Dude can kiss my a$$.

Mine too.

Mr. Leonard Draper also played a large part in keeping Joe from transferring out. Joe was gone till Mr.Draper intervened. Fact.
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