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(03-10-2016 03:57 PM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 03:55 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 03:51 PM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  Or, crazy idea - how about if you're the best team in the conference with the best record you just go ahead and solidify that argument by winning the tournament? (or at least don't lose in the quarterfinals!) They call it "earning a bid" for a reason - and unfortunately we are a one bid league no matter how you slice it. If the regular season champion got an auto bid, the selection committee would'nt allow a regular season and tournament champ from our league. Man up and earn your right to dance. Simple as.

Agreed. But on the downside, one bad game and your great season is in the toilet.

Lot's of teams don't win their tournament and still get in. We need to get to that point as well.

Agree, but UAB didnt do themselves any favors with their scheduling. No quality wins when you have 26 kinda leaves you out to dry on selection sunday.

Yep. That was my original point. The top teams need to schedule up.
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Well this season's OOC was not exactly a normal schedule for UAB. It was one of the worst OOCs in school history. We usually have an OOC in the 50-150 range, not 300. Was just a weird year

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03-10-2016 04:08 PM
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Yep everyone needs to schedule up. Its sad after winning conference games and our rpi goes down.
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Not only that, but we need some wins that make a splash. RPI is important, but it is only one of many things that the committee looks at. Who have you beaten that gets their attention? With a big splash win, you can overcome a few bad losses.
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(03-10-2016 02:55 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  You were the best and most consistent team in the league this year, but likely have an NIT bid to show for it.

Meh, we knew the drill in November. Everybody school did.
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I try to never assume anything.

That said, this would be the number one subject of off-season meetings with Presidents and Coaches if I were leading the conference. I hope that they are working on this in the conference offices. If we want to become a better league, we need to be playing better competition. Who cares if we are all 0-13 come conference play? We'd be in no worse situation that we are currently...the winner of our conference tourney would still be the only one going to the dance. There needs to be a clear plan conference wide to increase our stock.
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There's a 14-19 team going to the dance. That shouldn't happen.
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(03-10-2016 07:02 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  There's a 14-19 team going to the dance. That shouldn't happen.

That depends. Some teams battle through injuries, etc. and then finallt get it together at the right time. That's the great thing about college basketball. You have two shots to get into the big dance, assuming that your schedule allows for the first shot.

But when you schedule as if the conference tournament is the only thing that matters, it's the only shot you have.
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I appreciate the sentiment, and I largely agree.

Blaming the conference never really sits well with me because it's ultimately up to us to get the job done. Do I hate that we're all dragged down by the bottom teams? Yeah, but I can't get angry at them. No one wants to be garbage, and it's not like they got here off the merits of their basketball to begin with. Pointing fingers is silly to begin with when we're not really doing our part to break the narrative that we're just another garbage conference.

As far as scheduling goes, yeah. This is a problem our top programs are all going to face to some degree. Getting teams from power conferences to play any of us at home isn't going to happen much too often. Even getting quality non power conference teams to come here is probably pretty tough. I'm thinking we'd have to agree to go on the road a quite a bit more if we want to even get close to a decent RPI. I could go on and on about it, but our schedule can't be this poor next season.

If nothing else, I hope this season of C-USA results in some action from the conference executives.

Good luck to everyone still in.
03-10-2016 07:24 PM
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Marshall had a 44 rpi a few years ago. Highest rpi ever left out of the tourney.... and to top it off.... we went on the road in the NIT.
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(03-10-2016 03:20 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
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(03-10-2016 02:55 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  You were the best and most consistent team in the league this year, but likely have an NIT bid to show for it.

I may be beating a dead horse, but unfortunately I believe that you are going to reap the rewards of CUSA's out-of-conference SUCK this year (and I say this with full acknowledgment that ODU contributed to that SUCK).

This is why we need to schedule up. The top teams in the conference need to schedule and beat good teams. Any team with 26 wins should never get left out of the dance.

I think that CUSA basketball has a lot of potential, with a lot of good young players, and some good teams rebuilding this year. But we gotta get it done out of conference. Until then, the regular conference season means little.

If we would have scheduled up this year we would have been 50 games under .500 and the 29th ranked league.

I have just dispelled this myth (again today) that scheduling harder has virtually no bearing on having a better league ranking/RPI.

Correct. Take ODU for instance, played 6 teams with under 100 RPI. Lost all 6, how does scheduling up help? Schedule winnable games against decent competition

That's what has kept la tech from the tournament the last few years. If we'd have had the season we were expecting we could be in the discussion for an at large. Scheduling winnable games against decent competition is exactly what we did and other than Perdue and Richmond we showed they were winnable. Do you expect to get an at large with out beating top 100 RPI teams? You're not gonna get it if you don't try.
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Yeah kudos UAB on a good season. You guys have a great coach and a lot of great players coming back next year. As was seen today there's a lot of teams this year that can beat anybody when they're playing well but your guys were the most consistent. Kick some ass in the NIT.
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First off, we came out flat today against a team that was hungry and wanting revenge, and we paid the price. Full credit to WKU. They remind me of us last season. This team has a bad habit of starting slow, of dropping behind 10, 12, 15 points then making a run. Today we couldn't make one - we'd get a couple of baskets and then a have turnover or lost rebound. The slow starts very badly need to be addressed.

As to the conference, truth be told, every conference has cellar dwellers. Part of what's killing us is teams with a lot of talent between say 8th and 4th who wind up with four or five WTF losses.

It really hurts, this loss. This is a very good team, full of high character, unselfish guys. Robert Brown played his guts out today. I hope they learned from it.
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(03-10-2016 07:06 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 07:02 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  There's a 14-19 team going to the dance. That shouldn't happen.

That depends. Some teams battle through injuries, etc. and then finallt get it together at the right time. That's the great thing about college basketball. You have two shots to get into the big dance, assuming that your schedule allows for the first shot.

But when you schedule as if the conference tournament is the only thing that matters, it's the only shot you have.

I'm a Belmont (OVC) alum as well and I must say that Austin Peay's run was part of what I like about college basketball, even as it sucked to see a team with a losing record get hot at the right time.
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