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TV Contract Termination
So if UConn or Houston leave for the Big 12, then per the existing clause of a cateragory A team leaving, ESPN can terminate the AAC TV contract (to make room for Big 10 contract?).

That would be a scary scenario considering the recent Charleston, WV article on the CUSA board claiming Fox refused to even bid on CUSA football and CBS is getting out. No bidders left and CUSA will have ASN as their primary rights holder. I don't think ASN pays much if at all. CUSA may become lowest TV payout conference below the Sun Belt.

Instead of AAC worrying about which teams to add if 2 go, the TV contract also seems worrisome given the predicament CUSA is facing.
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(03-10-2016 01:55 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  So if UConn or Houston leave for the Big 12, then per the existing clause of a cateragory A team leaving, ESPN can terminate the AAC TV contract (to make room for Big 10 contract?).

That would be a scary scenario considering the recent Charleston, WV article on the CUSA board claiming Fox refused to even bid on CUSA football and CBS is getting out. No bidders left and CUSA will have ASN as their primary rights holder. I don't think ASN pays much if at all. CUSA may become lowest TV payout conference below the Sun Belt.

Instead of AAC worrying about which teams to add if 2 go, the TV contract also seems worrisome given the predicament CUSA is facing.

ESPN has the right to terminate the contract, but will have no reason to do so. The AAC represents a below market deal ESPN picked up at the foreclosure auction. If the rumors coming out of Big10 negotiations are correct and Fox is going to pick up half of the Big-10 rights package, then ESPN is actually going to want to have AAC content to fill those broadcast slots. Its far more likely that ESPN offers the AAC a raise and an extension than a contract cancellation.
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I believe the OP is incorrect. Two of what were then called "Group A" (UConn, Temple, Cincinnati and Houston) schools would have to leave (or one Group A plus one of the far inferior "Group B") for the contract to be terminable by ESPN. That said, Cincinnati could be replaced by Minot State and ESPN still wouldn't cancel this contract. It's too good a bargain.
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(03-10-2016 01:55 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  So if UConn or Houston leave for the Big 12, then per the existing clause of a cateragory A team leaving, ESPN can terminate the AAC TV contract (to make room for Big 10 contract?).

That would be a scary scenario considering the recent Charleston, WV article on the CUSA board claiming Fox refused to even bid on CUSA football and CBS is getting out. No bidders left and CUSA will have ASN as their primary rights holder. I don't think ASN pays much if at all. CUSA may become lowest TV payout conference below the Sun Belt.

Instead of AAC worrying about which teams to add if 2 go, the TV contract also seems worrisome given the predicament CUSA is facing.

Miami of ohio referencing west virginia newspapers is mo skeery.
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The clown hates UC, that's why he included UH instead of UC. Class A tool.
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ESPN pulling teams from one conference they have a deal with to another conference they have a deal with and then trying to break a contract is a great way to end up in court and lose a ton of cash

now if it was the MWC that was able to take some teams then ESPN might go ahead and break the deal or try and reduce it

but the amount of money ESPN would have to keep paying and the amount per team (about $1.8 million) is probably less than it would cost to lawyer up and win (even though they would most likely lose big) so why even take the chance

but at the same time ESPN paying an additional $3.6 million for two teams that are now in the Big 12 making on average $23.5 million in new money each (with ESPN paying one of those $23.5 and Fox paying about the same) is all the more reason for ESPN to save money and do nothing even more so when CBS will probably want a break/reduction/cancellation of their rights deal for some of the less desirable AAC games which cost ESPN even more money for having teams move from the AAC to the Big 12

which makes the whole thing much less likely
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If ESPN loses significant Big Ten inventory I suspect they would hold on to the AAC with both hands!
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Aside for when they play at UC, has Miami U. football or basketball been on TV since Big Ben/Wally World left?
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(03-10-2016 03:59 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If ESPN loses significant Big Ten inventory I suspect they would hold on to the AAC with both hands!

Think you are right.

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it is not really a matter of ESPN needing "content" even if they lose the Big 10 games

ESPN has more than enough content to fill several channels 24 hours a day with football on Saturday and probably a big portion of another day of the week as well if they wanted to

that is why ESPN is farming out AAC games to CBS and ACC games to Raycom
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TRodge, don't see you. My office is staring at the Westlake football field
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espn has the option, doesnt mean they do it ..99% chance espn doesnt buy out...id even bet money espn tries to buy the aac long term when that happens and tries to lock us in at a low price

ps we arent c-usa...cbs sports optionay put our horrid games on tv when they dont have too, nbcsports has still shown interest and would almost certainly bid on us....espn will not lose cheap content if it doesnt have to....and fs1may or may not have rom dependinf on the big 10 deal..if they dont get the big 10, id bet money they bid on us...

c-usa and the aac arent in the same situation
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(03-10-2016 04:10 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  it is not really a matter of ESPN needing "content" even if they lose the Big 10 games

ESPN has more than enough content to fill several channels 24 hours a day with football on Saturday and probably a big portion of another day of the week as well if they wanted to

that is why ESPN is farming out AAC games to CBS and ACC games to Raycom

the games being farmed are overlapping games...no one is playing on monday and tuesday..we all play on the same...
your logic would only make sense if espn had the ability to make some of our teams play on wedsday at 2...and they dont
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(03-10-2016 01:55 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  So if UConn or Houston leave for the Big 12, then per the existing clause of a cateragory A team leaving, ESPN can terminate the AAC TV contract (to make room for Big 10 contract?).

That would be a scary scenario considering the recent Charleston, WV article on the CUSA board claiming Fox refused to even bid on CUSA football and CBS is getting out. No bidders left and CUSA will have ASN as their primary rights holder. I don't think ASN pays much if at all. CUSA may become lowest TV payout conference below the Sun Belt.

Instead of AAC worrying about which teams to add if 2 go, the TV contract also seems worrisome given the predicament CUSA is facing.

Almost every c-USA member got a giant raise over sunbelt or fcs. Our conference has zero correlation with the c-usa outside of playing college sports.
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(03-10-2016 04:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Aside for when they play at UC, has Miami U. football or basketball been on TV since Big Ben/Wally World left?

wasn't there some mention of them, you know, when their football left for (S)pitt, but then got busted, for busting his woman?
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(03-10-2016 01:55 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  So if UConn or Houston leave for the Big 12, then per the existing clause of a cateragory A team leaving, ESPN can terminate the AAC TV contract (to make room for Big 10 contract?).

They CAN, but they probably won't. The contract is $20M a year for 4 more years. If (teams) announced a move to the Big 12 after the NCAA tournament, it would be for 2017-18. So ESPN could save money on the AAC deal for 3 years. Imagine ESPN cuts the contract in half, they're saving $30M over 3 years. That's barely worth the time of the ESPN execs and legal team who would be overseeing the negotiations.

(03-10-2016 04:22 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Almost every c-USA member got a giant raise over sunbelt or fcs. Our conference has zero correlation with the c-usa outside of playing college sports.

Everyone who sells live event programming watches what happens in the market for live event programming. Your conference is as close to CUSA as it is to the Big TEn, and you'd be wise to pay attention to what happens with the Big Ten TV rights.
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(03-10-2016 01:58 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Thanks for your concern

He does care. Cheers!
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(03-10-2016 04:35 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 01:55 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  So if UConn or Houston leave for the Big 12, then per the existing clause of a cateragory A team leaving, ESPN can terminate the AAC TV contract (to make room for Big 10 contract?).

They CAN, but they probably won't. The contract is $20M a year for 4 more years. If (teams) announced a move to the Big 12 after the NCAA tournament, it would be for 2017-18. So ESPN could save money on the AAC deal for 3 years. Imagine ESPN cuts the contract in half, they're saving $30M over 3 years. That's barely worth the time of the ESPN execs and legal team who would be overseeing the negotiations.

(03-10-2016 04:22 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Almost every c-USA member got a giant raise over sunbelt or fcs. Our conference has zero correlation with the c-usa outside of playing college sports.

Everyone who sells live event programming watches what happens in the market for live event programming. Your conference is as close to CUSA as it is to the Big TEn, and you'd be wise to pay attention to what happens with the Big Ten TV rights.

There might be a breaking point at the ultra expensive programming rights. Dumping $40 million per team works until consumers can drop espn. AAC is cheap enough where they have margin to play with...
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