ASN has been very good for basketball for me. I have 24/7 ASN through my antenna, (I don't have cable/satellite...best financial decision I've ever made BTW).

I prefer ESPN3 over Fox Sports only because Fox Sports Go only works for me if the game I want on FS1, FS2 or Fox Sports Ohio. ESPN3 lets you watch every game. But I can stream both on to my TV with my XBOX using a friends cable log in/password.

(03-09-2016 12:02 PM)CincyDave Wrote:  ASN has been very good for basketball for me. I have 24/7 ASN through my antenna, (I don't have cable...best financial decision I've ever made BTW).

I prefer ESPN3 over Fox Sports only because Fox Sports Go only works for me if the game I want on FS1, FS2 or Fox Sports Ohio. ESPN3 lets you watch every game. But I can stream both on to my TV with my XBOX and through a friends cable log in/password.

Speaking of ESPN3, the MT at Miami (FL) game was aired yesterday. Here is the match-clinching shot:

https://twitter.com/J_pugh96/status/707313035761819652

(03-09-2016 11:27 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  FireStick, etc. are game changers for me. Amazing quality. I've gone from being 100% opposed to ESPN to halfway hoping they get involved because of the FireStick.

Jailbreak it.

I've missed more home basketball games this season b/c of ASN. their website and what Comcast shows is often different and ASN won't let ODU steam their home games if they are broadcasting it. I live in the DC metro area (3 hours away from ODU). I think ASN is amateur hour. I would sign up for ESPN3 even with Tuesday night games. it would be loads better (IMO) than what I have now. unless I pack up and move back to Norfolk.

(03-09-2016 12:00 PM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:57 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:29 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Another question-- is there any way to view the ASN streams on my television without hooking up the computer to the back of the TV (using FireStick or Chromecast) ?

I apologize if these are dumb questions. You younger guys are much more tech savvy than me.

You'll need to hook your computer up to the TV for ASN streams. They don't have an app like the watchESPN app.

So there is no smartphone app that will allow me to cast "anything" from my I-phone to my television by use of Roku, Chromecast, FireStick, etc. ? (like even just a webpage)

For instance--- I haven't figured out how to use it yet-- but I have an app called "TV Cast" on my phone that has the little "casting" icon.

Again, sorry if these questions are ignorant. My MT edumacation, I reckon'.

Oh, yeah, I didn't think about that. If you have a Google Chromecast or your phone and TV can sync with each other to cast things; then you could pull up the ASN stream on your web browser on your phone then cast it on to the TV.

Exactly. Get a Google Chrome Stick for your TV. Anything you pull up in the Google Chrome browser can be cast to your TV then. I use it frequently, and will do so for the CUSA tournament games.

(03-09-2016 11:32 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:28 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:26 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:20 AM)chidave Wrote:  Antennas actually have a better HD picture than cable. The games your talking about may have been on a sub channel though, and they are typically not broadcast in HD.

I was watching MT vs. FIU men Saturday on a subchannel-- and it did indeed seem to be in HD.

Are subchannels ever picked up by Comcast, Direct, etc as part of their lineup ?

Direct TV has carried every CUSA game broadcast by ASN if you have the sports package...The $10 I pay a month was well worth it to me..Games usually appear on MASN Channel 640 or 640-1, Channel 642, Channel 665-1, and sometimes on Channel 698....

Well-- dammit. I've been paying the monthly fee and did not know this. I can watch all of the WKU games but was unaware that I could get the MT games (unless they were picked up locally).

The MT games must not be showing up with the "search" function.

Ha you must be new to the board here...Its been this way now going on 2 years with Direct TV with ASN....

(03-09-2016 12:42 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:32 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:28 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:26 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:20 AM)chidave Wrote:  Antennas actually have a better HD picture than cable. The games your talking about may have been on a sub channel though, and they are typically not broadcast in HD.

I was watching MT vs. FIU men Saturday on a subchannel-- and it did indeed seem to be in HD.

Are subchannels ever picked up by Comcast, Direct, etc as part of their lineup ?

Direct TV has carried every CUSA game broadcast by ASN if you have the sports package...The $10 I pay a month was well worth it to me..Games usually appear on MASN Channel 640 or 640-1, Channel 642, Channel 665-1, and sometimes on Channel 698....

Well-- dammit. I've been paying the monthly fee and did not know this. I can watch all of the WKU games but was unaware that I could get the MT games (unless they were picked up locally).

The MT games must not be showing up with the "search" function.

Ha you must be new to the board here...Its been this way now going on 2 years with Direct TV with ASN....

Naw.. been around a long time. Just took a hiatus for a while with my personal life being busy.

(03-09-2016 08:19 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  The number of bidders is dwindling. Fox didn’t even bid on Conference USA football. Fox 1 has been a marginal success. Fox 2 is a disaster. ESPN is looking for every way to contain costs. - See more at: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/article/201...wFEdB.dpuf

Eventually I wonder if leagues will find it more beneficial in a few years to create their own packages and streaming network via Roku, Chromecast etc. Just need someone to sell the advertising.

(03-09-2016 11:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:29 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Another question-- is there any way to view the ASN streams on my television without hooking up the computer to the back of the TV (using FireStick or Chromecast) ?

I apologize if these are dumb questions. You younger guys are much more tech savvy than me.

You'll need to hook your computer up to the TV for ASN streams. They don't have an app like the watchESPN app.

Amazing that they dont when you can create an App for Roku in the time it took me to read this post and respond to it.

(03-09-2016 01:39 PM)panama Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:29 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Another question-- is there any way to view the ASN streams on my television without hooking up the computer to the back of the TV (using FireStick or Chromecast) ?

I apologize if these are dumb questions. You younger guys are much more tech savvy than me.

You'll need to hook your computer up to the TV for ASN streams. They don't have an app like the watchESPN app.

Amazing that they dont when you can create an App for Roku in the time it took me to read this post and respond to it.

I have a lot of problems with ASN and this is one of them.

(03-09-2016 11:20 AM)chidave Wrote:  Antennas actually have a better HD picture than cable. The games your talking about may have been on a sub channel though, and they are typically not broadcast in HD.

I watched the SuperBowl with a projector an antenna and a HomeWorx box. Clearest picture have ever seen, 110 inches across.

(03-09-2016 11:28 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:26 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:20 AM)chidave Wrote:  Antennas actually have a better HD picture than cable. The games your talking about may have been on a sub channel though, and they are typically not broadcast in HD.

I was watching MT vs. FIU men Saturday on a subchannel-- and it did indeed seem to be in HD.

Are subchannels ever picked up by Comcast, Direct, etc as part of their lineup ?

Direct TV has carried every CUSA game broadcast by ASN if you have the sports package...The $8.99 I pay a month was well worth it to me..Games usually appear on MASN Channel 640 or 640-1, Channel 642, Channel 665-1, and sometimes on Channel 698....So for someone like me I love our current deal and will disappointed if we are regulated back to TUes. night football on ESPNU....ESPN sucks imo, but seems like you guys go gaga over ESPN, so I must be in the minority...

I have the sports package with Dish-TV and I am very satisfied with the coverage of games. If memory serves me correct every USM football game this past season was available. As well, about 10 or so basketball games were on whether it was FS or ASN and considering how bad our basketball has been I felt that was an adequate number. I agree the broadcast quality might not be the best but I do like the fact they promote CUSA and the teams involved rather than talking about non-CUSA teams or games.

The Samsung TV I have has it's own built in browser and gets anything streaming on it's own. That plus DirecTV, Amazon, Hulu, and Netflix = about 100 times more stuff on that I could ever watch. But I rarely sit down and say "there's nothing on." And I haven't missed a game I wasn't at if it's on somewhere.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS9500FXZA

(03-09-2016 10:06 PM)MUther Wrote:  The Samsung TV I have has it's own built in browser and gets anything streaming on it's own. That plus DirecTV, Amazon, Hulu, and Netflix = about 100 times more stuff on that I could ever watch. But I rarely sit down and say "there's nothing on." And I haven't missed a game I wasn't at if it's on somewhere.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS9500FXZA

My vizio has something similar.

(03-10-2016 09:02 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 10:06 PM)MUther Wrote:  The Samsung TV I have has it's own built in browser and gets anything streaming on it's own. That plus DirecTV, Amazon, Hulu, and Netflix = about 100 times more stuff on that I could ever watch. But I rarely sit down and say "there's nothing on." And I haven't missed a game I wasn't at if it's on somewhere.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS9500FXZA

My vizio has something similar.

I don't know if the lack of a TV deal is good or bad at this point. IP based streaming is the future of TV, especially when the ATSC 3.0 standards replace the current digital over-the-air standards.

http://atsc.org/newsletter/atsc-3-0-where-we-stand/

It's coming sooner rather than later. In time, cable and satellite as we know it will be obsolete. Everything will be streamed.

This is likely why most cable and satellite stations aren't going to bid on anything less than P5 conferences. They see the writing on the wall.

I just hope that some streaming services will allow for an a la carte selection, similar to the old C-Band dish days. In any case, there shouldn't be any issues for anyone to get any game that they want to get. Whether or not it will help exposure is another question.

Would it be possible for CUSA to build its own network, but instead of having it on cable, put it on Netflix or Amazon Prime? Would it be any more affordable to do it that way vs. the cable route, or is all of the cost in the production rather than distribution? I think that would be a pretty innovative approach to getting all of our games out there globally. And for kids today Netflix is just like another TV channel. Bet we'd get a lot of press about it too. Then again, there probably are no advantages to that vs. ESPN3, except we could play our games in prime time so the stands would still be full.

(03-10-2016 09:36 AM)monarx Wrote:  Would it be possible for CUSA to build its own network, but instead of having it on cable, put it on Netflix or Amazon Prime? Would it be any more affordable to do it that way vs. the cable route, or is all of the cost in the production rather than distribution? I think that would be a pretty innovative approach to getting all of our games out there globally. And for kids today Netflix is just like another TV channel. Bet we'd get a lot of press about it too. Then again, there probably are no advantages to that vs. ESPN3, except we could play our games in prime time so the stands would still be full.

If ASN streams every game, what is the difference between that and what you are talking about...ASN is essentially CUSA Network....We get tons of coverage and the talking heads actually discuss our teams..

(03-10-2016 09:36 AM)monarx Wrote:  Would it be possible for CUSA to build its own network, but instead of having it on cable, put it on Netflix or Amazon Prime? Would it be any more affordable to do it that way vs. the cable route, or is all of the cost in the production rather than distribution? I think that would be a pretty innovative approach to getting all of our games out there globally. And for kids today Netflix is just like another TV channel. Bet we'd get a lot of press about it too. Then again, there probably are no advantages to that vs. ESPN3, except we could play our games in prime time so the stands would still be full.

We could do that, but we'd get very little money, if any, for it. There is still advertising value in live broadcasts. Even if it's $500K a team, ESPN or some other network is going to take our rights even if it's just to broadcast our home games with P5 schools, sub to lesser sports networks, and put the rest on ESPN3. Just Marshall has Louisville, Pitt, and NC State scheduled to come along with attractive G5 games with Boise, UC, ECU, and Navy. I know many other CUSA schools have good P5 games lined up, too.

Our rights are still valuable to the networks at the right price. Unfortunately, the TV sports bubble has at least deflated, if not completely popped.

I don't think ESPN gobbling up our rights is as bad as I used to. ESPN3 for our basketball games would be amazing and a HUGE improvement.

(03-10-2016 09:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 09:36 AM)monarx Wrote:  Would it be possible for CUSA to build its own network, but instead of having it on cable, put it on Netflix or Amazon Prime? Would it be any more affordable to do it that way vs. the cable route, or is all of the cost in the production rather than distribution? I think that would be a pretty innovative approach to getting all of our games out there globally. And for kids today Netflix is just like another TV channel. Bet we'd get a lot of press about it too. Then again, there probably are no advantages to that vs. ESPN3, except we could play our games in prime time so the stands would still be full.

If ASN streams every game, what is the difference between that and what you are talking about...ASN is essentially CUSA Network....We get tons of coverage and the talking heads actually discuss our teams..

Yep. All they need to do is create their own app and get the rights to all CUSA games (each school already has the capability to stream their own games.) It wouldn't be a huge expense, plus they could drop the satellite truck which I'm sure that they are using now. Even if they charge a moderate fee (which most schools do anyway), it would be a money maker for them and make is fans happy.

There is also advertising value in live streaming, and it will in time have more value than the current broadcasting.

Something ASN, or C-USA REALLY needs to do is some sort of PR campaign that lets average people know how to access C-USA content on ASN. It pains me to check online for the score of a C-USA game on that's being played on ASN and they make no mention that it's televised. These services let the user know if it's on ESPN, FS1, CBS, Big 10 network, etc, but not ASN. This means we're missing out on a huge, but more casual audience that's just checking online to see if there's a game on TV.