(03-10-2016 12:07 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  There isn't a comparison to a conference tournament in MSG, it's an event like no other. Media go there to be apart of the event, they can get a conference tournament anywhere. It's like the Oscars compared to a high school talent contest. Michael Jackson compared to Milli Vanilli.

Girl, you know it's true... don't forget my number! Blame it on the rain...

(03-10-2016 11:40 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:31 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:05 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:43 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 09:24 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  There is a LOT of local media in the NYC area that covers nothing but NYC events. Many of these media outlets could care less about covering an ACC tourney unless it were in NYC. Sure the majors like ESPN and CBS would cover it, but never underestimate the exposure you can get from being in the largest media center in the world, which just happens to be by far the largest city in the US. Local exposure in NYC is huge and trumps any kind of local exposure in any other city in the ACC footprint. Its not even close.

Can you be more specific? What media outlets would cover the Tournament who do not currently cover it, and which people who currently aren't "exposed" to the Tournament and ACC basketball would thereby be "exposed?" If those people care about ACC basketball, how are they being prevented from viewing or traveling to attend Tournament games if they are held outside NYC? If they don't care about ACC basketball, how does this "exposure" benefit people who do care about ACC basketball?

REALLY? Just google the term media outlets in New York City. Then ask yourself how many of those outlets would send a reporter down to Greensboro to cover the Acc tourney, then how many would send a reporter cross boroughs or across the river to cover the tourney in NYC. When you talk about exposure, it means fans and non fans alike. Kids in NYC became fans of the BE because of the BE tourney and the hype surrounding it during tourney week. The BE tourney used to be lit up in lights and advertised in Times Square. Reporters would be talking to passersby about the tourney in Times Square. You cant buy this kind of exposure.

So this "exposure" is about recruiting? I think the same media outlets based in New York City would cover the Tournament no matter where it was held. And any 12 or 13 year old kid who is good at basketball doesn't need to be "exposed to" the ACC. They will know about it already.

Dude, I give up. Where did I say anything about recruiting? You also once said "that Greensboro Coliseum is just as Big time as MSG." If you cant understand the concept of Acc tourney exposure and how it would be enhanced in NYC I don't know what to tell you. You just cant be helped.

Perhaps I can't be helped, and yes, Greensboro's basketball history is as storied as MSG's, if you weigh college and pro ball equally. (Greensboro wins if you prefer college ball, as I do.)

Which specific media outlets will cover the Tournament if it is held in NYC that currently do not cover it? I don't understand how "exposure" is increased at all, but beg for and welcome an explanation.

It's 2016 -- anybody interested in the Tournament can access it in some way. I'm walking over there now.

(03-10-2016 11:35 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:10 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:45 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 03:47 AM)opossum Wrote:  There are two things in this debate that I don't understand:

1. The love for Charlotte over Greensboro. Does anyone who has actually been to both the Triad and Charlotte think this? Greensboro Coliseum is bigger -- it's the largest independent basketball venue on the East Coast, so more tickets per team. Charlotte isn't a bad town, but I don't see it as light years ahead of the Triad.

2. The idea that the Tournament would get more "exposure" in NYC. The Tournament is going to be on TV and would get the same media coverage whether it's held at Greensboro Coliseum, the Verizon Center, Madison Square Garden, or in a high school gym in New Mexico. The ACC invented the conference basketball tournament -- the media comes to us.

1. There is absolutely nothing to do in Greensboro except go to the tournament.

And fewer tickets = more demand. More demand = higher ticket prices. Higher ticket prices = more revenue for a revenue deficient conference.

2. The very idea that the tournament wouldn't get more exposure in the media center of the world is simply stupid.

That's another thing I don't get. As a fan of an ACC team I would personally like lower ticket prices. We're dealing with nonprofit organizations that have to spend everything they make, and they will. Why do we care about conference revenue?

As for #2, I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but what does that "exposure" entail, and what does it get us?

Oh my God......are you serious about the revenue?

Let's see.....basketball tournament in NYC. ACC and ACC schools names splashed in advertising all over a city of over 8 million.

Basketball tournament in Greensboro. ACC gets a billboard at Exit 217 in a city of 279,000. Maybe if we are lucky we can get posters hung over the urinals of The Corner Bar on Spring Garden.

Well you have just explained a lot about yourself and your posting history.
Nobody over the age of 27 in Greensboro would ever go into the Corner Bar unless you were looking for more than a beer.

(03-10-2016 12:27 PM)opossum Wrote:  ...Greensboro's basketball history is as storied as MSG's...

This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

(03-10-2016 12:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:10 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:45 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 03:47 AM)opossum Wrote:  There are two things in this debate that I don't understand:

1. The love for Charlotte over Greensboro. Does anyone who has actually been to both the Triad and Charlotte think this? Greensboro Coliseum is bigger -- it's the largest independent basketball venue on the East Coast, so more tickets per team. Charlotte isn't a bad town, but I don't see it as light years ahead of the Triad.

2. The idea that the Tournament would get more "exposure" in NYC. The Tournament is going to be on TV and would get the same media coverage whether it's held at Greensboro Coliseum, the Verizon Center, Madison Square Garden, or in a high school gym in New Mexico. The ACC invented the conference basketball tournament -- the media comes to us.

1. There is absolutely nothing to do in Greensboro except go to the tournament.

And fewer tickets = more demand. More demand = higher ticket prices. Higher ticket prices = more revenue for a revenue deficient conference.

2. The very idea that the tournament wouldn't get more exposure in the media center of the world is simply stupid.

That's another thing I don't get. As a fan of an ACC team I would personally like lower ticket prices. We're dealing with nonprofit organizations that have to spend everything they make, and they will. Why do we care about conference revenue?

As for #2, I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but what does that "exposure" entail, and what does it get us?

Oh my God......are you serious about the revenue?

Let's see.....basketball tournament in NYC. ACC and ACC schools names splashed in advertising all over a city of over 8 million.

Basketball tournament in Greensboro. ACC gets a billboard at Exit 217 in a city of 279,000. Maybe if we are lucky we can get posters hung over the urinals of The Corner Bar on Spring Garden.

Well you have just explained a lot about yourself and your posting history.
Nobody over the age of 27 in Greensboro would ever go into the Corner Bar unless you were looking for more than a beer.

I only knew about The Corner Bar because we were caught up in traffic there once due to Greensboro PD working a wreck as we were passing by. I try my best not to spend any time in Columbia or any city like it, which Greensboro is on a grand scale, but from time to time business forces me to. The two days I spent in Greensboro were the longest week of my life. It's bad when you ask the clients who live in the area "So what's something good to do around here at night?" and they say "Nothing." At least with Columbia you have The Vista and Five Points.

(03-10-2016 02:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:10 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:45 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  1. There is absolutely nothing to do in Greensboro except go to the tournament.

And fewer tickets = more demand. More demand = higher ticket prices. Higher ticket prices = more revenue for a revenue deficient conference.

2. The very idea that the tournament wouldn't get more exposure in the media center of the world is simply stupid.

That's another thing I don't get. As a fan of an ACC team I would personally like lower ticket prices. We're dealing with nonprofit organizations that have to spend everything they make, and they will. Why do we care about conference revenue?

As for #2, I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but what does that "exposure" entail, and what does it get us?

Oh my God......are you serious about the revenue?

Let's see.....basketball tournament in NYC. ACC and ACC schools names splashed in advertising all over a city of over 8 million.

Basketball tournament in Greensboro. ACC gets a billboard at Exit 217 in a city of 279,000. Maybe if we are lucky we can get posters hung over the urinals of The Corner Bar on Spring Garden.

Well you have just explained a lot about yourself and your posting history.
Nobody over the age of 27 in Greensboro would ever go into the Corner Bar unless you were looking for more than a beer.

I only knew about The Corner Bar because we were caught up in traffic there once due to Greensboro PD working a wreck as we were passing by. I try my best not to spend any time in Columbia or any city like it, which Greensboro is on a grand scale, but from time to time business forces me to. The two days I spent in Greensboro were the longest week of my life. It's bad when you ask the clients who live in the area "So what's something good to do around here at night?" and they say "Nothing." At least with Columbia you have The Vista and Five Points.

Your clients must be dull and uninformed, or you are just making it all up.

(03-10-2016 03:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:10 AM)opossum Wrote:  That's another thing I don't get. As a fan of an ACC team I would personally like lower ticket prices. We're dealing with nonprofit organizations that have to spend everything they make, and they will. Why do we care about conference revenue?

As for #2, I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but what does that "exposure" entail, and what does it get us?

Oh my God......are you serious about the revenue?

Let's see.....basketball tournament in NYC. ACC and ACC schools names splashed in advertising all over a city of over 8 million.

Basketball tournament in Greensboro. ACC gets a billboard at Exit 217 in a city of 279,000. Maybe if we are lucky we can get posters hung over the urinals of The Corner Bar on Spring Garden.

Well you have just explained a lot about yourself and your posting history.
Nobody over the age of 27 in Greensboro would ever go into the Corner Bar unless you were looking for more than a beer.

I only knew about The Corner Bar because we were caught up in traffic there once due to Greensboro PD working a wreck as we were passing by. I try my best not to spend any time in Columbia or any city like it, which Greensboro is on a grand scale, but from time to time business forces me to. The two days I spent in Greensboro were the longest week of my life. It's bad when you ask the clients who live in the area "So what's something good to do around here at night?" and they say "Nothing." At least with Columbia you have The Vista and Five Points.

Your clients must be dull and uninformed, or you are just making it all up.

It was Guilford County EMS and Greensboro Fire so you tell me. Of course we checked out what we could find, which wasn't much more than the national chains. I know the next trip I made up that way to meet with Pinecroft-Sedgefield I made sure it was a day trip.

Perhaps they were being honest and weren't trying to paint a picture of something that simply isn't there in order to keep a home court advantage for their team.

Nobody has explained the NYC "exposure" argument yet. What specific media outlets would cover an AC Tournament held in NYC but ignore it when it is held in DC or Greensboro or Charlotte or Atlanta or Tampa or New Mexico or wherever?

It's a big national-level sports event no matter where it is held. It has long been the greatest collection of college basketball teams ever assembled, made even better by the addition of our newcomers over the years (and by the subtraction of some too ), holding a year-end single elimination tournament with a 60+ year tradition. If there are problems (and I really don't think there are), "exposure" isn't one of them.

I went to the afternoon session today in DC, and within a couple of blocks of the Verizon Center it was all ACC (good showing, UVA), but outside of that area, no presence. I expect it would be the same in NYC. In Greensboro it's everywhere.

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:27 PM)opossum Wrote:  ...Greensboro's basketball history is as storied as MSG's...

This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:27 PM)opossum Wrote:  ...Greensboro's basketball history is as storied as MSG's...

This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:27 PM)opossum Wrote:  ...Greensboro's basketball history is as storied as MSG's...

This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

(03-10-2016 11:35 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:27 PM)opossum Wrote:  ...Greensboro's basketball history is as storied as MSG's...

This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

It can't be explained. It needs to be experienced. But there is fat chance that happens since the ACC will never tie its tourney to one site and MSG wants an annual commitment.

My initial argument back in 2013 for it being at MSG on an annual basis was mostly based upon branding reasons. But at this point, with only ND showing any true strength early on in the transition from the BE to ACC, it doesn't matter as much.

So I have resigned myself to the fact it will always be a revolving site and that it being played in North Carolina more often than not will continue, just not as often as it has been in the past.

Cheers,
Neil

(03-11-2016 12:58 AM)omniorange Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

It can't be explained. It needs to be experienced. But there is fat chance that happens since the ACC will never tie its tourney to one site and MSG wants an annual commitment.

My initial argument back in 2013 for it being at MSG on an annual basis was mostly based upon branding reasons. But at this point, with only ND showing any true strength early on in the transition from the BE to ACC, it doesn't matter as much.

So I have resigned myself to the fact it will always be a revolving site and that it being played in North Carolina more often than not will continue, just not as often as it has been in the past.

Cheers,
Neil

It's been a revolving site since the 60's, roughly 50/50 between Greensboro and other locations. I hope that doesn't change, unless it's to make Greensboro permanent host. We're trying NYC out over the next two seasons, just like we tried Tampa a few years ago. Barclays is a smaller arena and the area is even more expensive and inconvenient to most fans than DC and Tampa. We'll see how it goes.

(03-11-2016 12:58 AM)omniorange Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

It can't be explained. It needs to be experienced. But there is fat chance that happens since the ACC will never tie its tourney to one site and MSG wants an annual commitment.

My initial argument back in 2013 for it being at MSG on an annual basis was mostly based upon branding reasons. But at this point, with only ND showing any true strength early on in the transition from the BE to ACC, it doesn't matter as much.

So I have resigned myself to the fact it will always be a revolving site and that it being played in North Carolina more often than not will continue, just not as often as it has been in the past.

Cheers,
Neil

I'm glad you are finally coming to your senses.....some things are just not meant to change.

(03-10-2016 11:35 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:27 PM)opossum Wrote:  ...Greensboro's basketball history is as storied as MSG's...

This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

For being "center stage" we aren't on the front page of the sports section of the 3rd largest circulation newspaper in this country. However, the conference that is currently holding it's tournament in the home city of the newspaper is.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/index.html

the same with the #5 in circulation newspaper
http://nypost.com/sports/

and #6
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports

Do you understand now or do I need to write more slowly with a blue crayon so you can get it?

(03-11-2016 09:05 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  This is like saying that the Liberty Bowl's history is as storied as the Peach Bowl. Which one would YOU prefer for your team right now, though?

Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

For being "center stage" we aren't on the front page of the sports section of the 3rd largest circulation newspaper in this country. However, the conference that is currently holding it's tournament in the home city of the newspaper is.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/index.html

the same with the #5 in circulation newspaper
http://nypost.com/sports/

and #6
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports

Do you understand now or do I need to write more slowly with a blue crayon so you can get it?

This post is a home run!

Did you notice who was covered in those papers? The Big East, which just happens to have their tourney in NYC.

(03-11-2016 09:22 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 09:05 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 10:54 PM)opossum Wrote:  Obviously Greensboro. Which is supposed to be the Liberty and which is supposed to be the Peach in your analogy?

Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

For being "center stage" we aren't on the front page of the sports section of the 3rd largest circulation newspaper in this country. However, the conference that is currently holding it's tournament in the home city of the newspaper is.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/index.html

the same with the #5 in circulation newspaper
http://nypost.com/sports/

and #6
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports

Do you understand now or do I need to write more slowly with a blue crayon so you can get it?

This post is a home run!

Did you notice who was covered in those papers? The Big East, which just happens to have their tourney in NYC.

Which comes first.........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...et-so-far/



It's always nice to go where your wanted....

http://www.greensboro.com/sports/

(03-11-2016 09:33 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 09:22 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-11-2016 09:05 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:35 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 11:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Greensboro, like the Liberty Bowl, used to be a big deal. The Peach takes center stage next year, like MSG does most years. It's an imperfect analogy.

For basketball, I think the Verizon Center has the center stage this year. MSG is hosting a conference tournament for a bunch of schools that collectively haven't won a NCAA championship since when? 1987? 1985? Who even knows?

And when the ACC returns to Greensboro (where it belongs) in a couple of years, that will be center stage. I just don't understand the argument that the ACC would get more "exposure" in NYC. I wish someone would try to explain it to me.

For being "center stage" we aren't on the front page of the sports section of the 3rd largest circulation newspaper in this country. However, the conference that is currently holding it's tournament in the home city of the newspaper is.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/index.html

the same with the #5 in circulation newspaper
http://nypost.com/sports/

and #6
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports

Do you understand now or do I need to write more slowly with a blue crayon so you can get it?

This post is a home run!

Did you notice who was covered in those papers? The Big East, which just happens to have their tourney in NYC.

Which comes first.........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...et-so-far/

Like I said in the thread on the realignment board, it's just like football. Provincial Tobacco Road fans don't travel outside of Tobacco Road.



"I'm just a Tobacco Road fan, the world outside of the Triad scares me"


For further proof just look at UNC's two trips to Charlotte this year in football.

Greensboro did not have its clocks ready. Look bush league on national TV.

(03-11-2016 09:40 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   Greensboro did not have its clocks ready. Look bush league on national TV.

Washington wouldn't remove the ice under the basketball court for the safety of the players......too many slips......I just hope that nobody gets hurt, because the tournament was not a priority with the arena.