I think one of the arguments for Greensboro is that it's more affordable for a lot of fans than NYC is. And, while NYC has lots to offer in terms of both prestige and things for fans to do, it isn't close to anybody except Syracuse.

Many old time ACC fans are thinking back to the time when Greensboro was within easy driving distance for 7 of the 8 league schools. It still is close for 7 of the 15. And as for the expense of traveling to NYC, it's not like the ACC tourney was all that available to the average fan in the early days either. It was strictly a fat cat tournament, for which most teams' fans had to pony up big bucks to booster clubs for the right to buy tickets.

Let's face it. The old ACC isn't coming back. The world has changed. The tourney is five days long instead of three, and all the old arguments don't carry the weight they used to. Fact is, most of us are going to be watching on TV, just like we always did. If well-heeled fans don't mind dropping big bucks in New York, or DC, why should we care?

I like this rotation:

Charlotte, New York, Charlotte, Atlanta, Greensboro, Orlando, Charlotte, New York, Charlotte & Louisville

I vote for Buies Creek, NC. They just hosted the Big South Tourney and it was highly successful. I can offer suggestions for nearby places to eat and drink. Many of the drinking establishment don't require formal dress or firearms, others are casual and open carry.

(03-08-2016 08:36 AM)XLance Wrote:  The ACC tournament belongs in Greensboro!

Not no more....

(03-08-2016 03:20 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 10:12 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:55 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:16 AM)nole Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 08:36 AM)XLance Wrote:  The ACC tournament belongs in Greensboro!

God forbid everything in the ACC isn't in NC.

I knew we could count on your vote!

LOL! But this is one point that I totally agree with Nole. Its small time thinking to think that the ACC should always be in lil ole Greensboro. The ACC is obviously trying to distance itself from such small time ways of doing business. That's why they are experimenting now with DC and NYC.

They've experienced with DC before. Also have had the ACC Tournament in Atlanta.

Also, Greensboro isn't that small. The Triad is an area that has over 1.6 million people living in it. It certainly isn't NYC, Atlanta or DC , but to call it little is a huge stretch.

Think a three city rotation of Atlanta, Greensboro and DC would be ideal. Not too crazy about NYC.

You have northern schools now. It's gonna be up here sometimes. Deal with it.

(03-08-2016 03:45 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:20 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 10:12 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:55 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:16 AM)nole Wrote:  God forbid everything in the ACC isn't in NC.

I knew we could count on your vote!

LOL! But this is one point that I totally agree with Nole. Its small time thinking to think that the ACC should always be in lil ole Greensboro. The ACC is obviously trying to distance itself from such small time ways of doing business. That's why they are experimenting now with DC and NYC.

They've experienced with DC before. Also have had the ACC Tournament in Atlanta.

Also, Greensboro isn't that small. The Triad is an area that has over 1.6 million people living in it. It certainly isn't NYC, Atlanta or DC , but to call it little is a huge stretch.

Think a three city rotation of Atlanta, Greensboro and DC would be ideal. Not too crazy about NYC.

Atlanta just has never worked very well and DC will be a flop.
Realistically I could see every third year played in NYC (if the tournament plays well there next year and the year after) with the other two played in Greensboro.

Sorry it's a new day in the ACC. Not gonna happen.

"And, while NYC has lots to offer in terms of both prestige and things for fans to do, it isn't close to anybody except Syracuse."

THE stuff I read on msg boards. Isn't Pitt and Boston college in this conference too? Sorry its not your fathers ACC anymore. Times are changing man...

I won't be as kind. Greensboro is an absolute $hithole of a town. The only reason one goes there is because they are forced to on the interstate between eastern and western part of the state. Holding the tournament there is small time. I don't mind it staying in Carolina but if it does it absolutely has to be Charlotte. There are more traveling now than just the local fan bases and there absolutely need to be other things to do for visitors.

(03-08-2016 10:51 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  I won't be as kind. Greensboro is an absolute $hithole of a town. The only reason one goes there is because they are forced to on the interstate between eastern and western part of the state. Holding the tournament there is small time. I don't mind it staying in Carolina but if it does it absolutely has to be Charlotte. There are more traveling now than just the local fan bases and there absolutely need to be other things to do for visitors.

That's insulting to chitholes. Like I said earlier, Greensboro is a larger, more boring Columbia. That's nowhere near a compliment.

(03-08-2016 08:26 PM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  "And, while NYC has lots to offer in terms of both prestige and things for fans to do, it isn't close to anybody except Syracuse."

THE stuff I read on msg boards. Isn't Pitt and Boston college in this conference too? Sorry its not your fathers ACC anymore. Times are changing man...

Yes, those two schools are also in the ACC. They just aren't close to NYC. And even if they were, that alone wouldn't really justify the added distance for most of the conference members. If you put the tourney in New York, it will be for reasons other than its convenience to some fans.

(03-09-2016 08:22 AM)ken d Wrote:  If you put the tourney in New York, it will be for reasons other than its convenience to some fans.

BINGO.

Interesting facts: Syracuse is 246 miles from New York City; Boston College is only 210 miles. Also, UVa is closer (341 miles) to NYC than is Pitt (368 mi).

(03-08-2016 03:55 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Washington DC -- depends on attendance.
Atlanta, Charlotte -- a good idea occasionally
Greensboro -- a good location, but small time
New York City -- the mother of all basketball tournament sites

Greensboro is a great location, centrally located in the footprint, with great hospitality by the locals and is (by and large) greatly attended. I remember the increase in "buzz" around the Coliseum when Pitt and Syracuse played in 2014 compared to the year before (when Miami won it) -- it was quite the spike in "excitement" with Pitt fans walking around the place.

NYC -- if we can get it to MSG, great. I'll reserve judgment about Brooklyn until next season is complete.

I agree about Atlanta and Charlotte being good "occasional" rotation options.

I disagree about DC -- should never play in DC again.

The place we want to add, and I will keep repeating until it happens, is Chicago -- and yes, Chicago is in the footprint thanks to ND. Maybe even Pittsburgh.

(03-08-2016 04:09 PM)omniorange Wrote:  I'm going to make an even more outlandish suggestion than the one about where the tourney should be held.

I think the tourney should be restricted to the top 12 teams only, like the Big East once was in the late 00s.



Cheers,
Neil

Neil,
I can listen to your mostly reasonable comments and then some of the garbage that some of the posters that claim to be Syracuse fans write about the tournament being in Greensboro (where it belongs) without too much ire, but you have just committed heresy.

(03-08-2016 08:22 PM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:20 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 10:12 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:55 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:16 AM)nole Wrote:  God forbid everything in the ACC isn't in NC.

I knew we could count on your vote!

LOL! But this is one point that I totally agree with Nole. Its small time thinking to think that the ACC should always be in lil ole Greensboro. The ACC is obviously trying to distance itself from such small time ways of doing business. That's why they are experimenting now with DC and NYC.

They've experienced with DC before. Also have had the ACC Tournament in Atlanta.

Also, Greensboro isn't that small. The Triad is an area that has over 1.6 million people living in it. It certainly isn't NYC, Atlanta or DC , but to call it little is a huge stretch.

Think a three city rotation of Atlanta, Greensboro and DC would be ideal. Not too crazy about NYC.

You have northern schools now. It's gonna be up here sometimes. Deal with it.

lol, "Deal with it" Not everyone is a fan of NYC, get over yourself.

(03-09-2016 10:35 AM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 08:22 PM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:20 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 10:12 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:55 AM)ken d Wrote:  I knew we could count on your vote!

LOL! But this is one point that I totally agree with Nole. Its small time thinking to think that the ACC should always be in lil ole Greensboro. The ACC is obviously trying to distance itself from such small time ways of doing business. That's why they are experimenting now with DC and NYC.

They've experienced with DC before. Also have had the ACC Tournament in Atlanta.

Also, Greensboro isn't that small. The Triad is an area that has over 1.6 million people living in it. It certainly isn't NYC, Atlanta or DC , but to call it little is a huge stretch.

Think a three city rotation of Atlanta, Greensboro and DC would be ideal. Not too crazy about NYC.

You have northern schools now. It's gonna be up here sometimes. Deal with it.

lol, "Deal with it" Not everyone is a fan of NYC, get over yourself.

And the ONLY people who like Greensboro is Tobacco Road so get over YOURself.

The ACC Tourney should alternate between Charlotte and NYC.

Louisville never had any problems going to NYC. I think Louisville has a better basketball atmosphere than Greensboro does.

(03-09-2016 11:17 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 10:35 AM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 08:22 PM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:20 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 10:12 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  LOL! But this is one point that I totally agree with Nole. Its small time thinking to think that the ACC should always be in lil ole Greensboro. The ACC is obviously trying to distance itself from such small time ways of doing business. That's why they are experimenting now with DC and NYC.

They've experienced with DC before. Also have had the ACC Tournament in Atlanta.

Also, Greensboro isn't that small. The Triad is an area that has over 1.6 million people living in it. It certainly isn't NYC, Atlanta or DC , but to call it little is a huge stretch.

Think a three city rotation of Atlanta, Greensboro and DC would be ideal. Not too crazy about NYC.

You have northern schools now. It's gonna be up here sometimes. Deal with it.

lol, "Deal with it" Not everyone is a fan of NYC, get over yourself.

And the ONLY people who like Greensboro is Tobacco Road so get over YOURself.

The ACC Tourney should alternate between Charlotte and NYC.

I can go with Charlotte over Greensboro. I am biased towards Greensboro because I am from just outside of there, but I say between Charlotte and DC, but not NYC.

(03-09-2016 02:02 PM)samandrea Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 11:17 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 10:35 AM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 08:22 PM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:20 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  They've experienced with DC before. Also have had the ACC Tournament in Atlanta.

Also, Greensboro isn't that small. The Triad is an area that has over 1.6 million people living in it. It certainly isn't NYC, Atlanta or DC , but to call it little is a huge stretch.

Think a three city rotation of Atlanta, Greensboro and DC would be ideal. Not too crazy about NYC.

You have northern schools now. It's gonna be up here sometimes. Deal with it.

lol, "Deal with it" Not everyone is a fan of NYC, get over yourself.

And the ONLY people who like Greensboro is Tobacco Road so get over YOURself.

The ACC Tourney should alternate between Charlotte and NYC.

I can go with Charlotte over Greensboro. I am biased towards Greensboro because I am from just outside of there, but I say between Charlotte and DC, but not NYC.

If your going to go to DC, you might as well go to NYC. No difference in expense. Big difference in atmosphere and exposure. Only a 3 hour difference in driving time.

(03-09-2016 09:19 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:55 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Washington DC -- depends on attendance.
Atlanta, Charlotte -- a good idea occasionally
Greensboro -- a good location, but small time
New York City -- the mother of all basketball tournament sites

Greensboro is a great location, centrally located in the footprint, with great hospitality by the locals and is (by and large) greatly attended. I remember the increase in "buzz" around the Coliseum when Pitt and Syracuse played in 2014 compared to the year before (when Miami won it) -- it was quite the spike in "excitement" with Pitt fans walking around the place.

NYC -- if we can get it to MSG, great. I'll reserve judgment about Brooklyn until next season is complete.

I agree about Atlanta and Charlotte being good "occasional" rotation options.

I disagree about DC -- should never play in DC again.

The place we want to add, and I will keep repeating until it happens, is Chicago -- and yes, Chicago is in the footprint thanks to ND. Maybe even Pittsburgh.

As an ND fan who grew up near Pittsburgh, I endorse this message.... :)

(03-09-2016 04:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 09:19 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:55 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Washington DC -- depends on attendance.
Atlanta, Charlotte -- a good idea occasionally
Greensboro -- a good location, but small time
New York City -- the mother of all basketball tournament sites

Greensboro is a great location, centrally located in the footprint, with great hospitality by the locals and is (by and large) greatly attended. I remember the increase in "buzz" around the Coliseum when Pitt and Syracuse played in 2014 compared to the year before (when Miami won it) -- it was quite the spike in "excitement" with Pitt fans walking around the place.

NYC -- if we can get it to MSG, great. I'll reserve judgment about Brooklyn until next season is complete.

I agree about Atlanta and Charlotte being good "occasional" rotation options.

I disagree about DC -- should never play in DC again.

The place we want to add, and I will keep repeating until it happens, is Chicago -- and yes, Chicago is in the footprint thanks to ND. Maybe even Pittsburgh.

As an ND fan who grew up near Pittsburgh, I endorse this message.... :)

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