Monmouth will be in the First Four in Dayton. They won't be able to resist that platform with Monmouth's entertaining style and bench.

I don't know...I mean, Valpo and Monmouth didn't even lose in the championship game of their tourney. They lost in the semi-finals. I think that hurts them. Losing in the final game in a tight one is one thing. Losing in the semi finals is another.

(03-07-2016 10:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I don't know...I mean, Valpo and Monmouth didn't even lose in the championship game of their tourney. They lost in the semi-finals. I think that hurts them. Losing in the final game in a tight one is one thing. Losing in the semi finals is another.

Monmouth was in the finals...


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Monmouth and Iona were playing in the MAAC Championship game tonight. That wasn't the semis.

Monmouth only played ONE home game in out of conference play. They won at UCLA, Georgetown, and Rutgers. Yeah, those teams weren't good this year, but those were brand name wins to start the year. They also did pick up high quality wins down in Orlando when they beat Notre Dame and USC.

Monmouth has a decent resume. The bubble definitely got smaller tonight.

my bad on Monmouth

but they had three putrid losses

not good for a mid major from a crap conference


and beating Gtown (this year) and Rutgers (any year) means zero

Beating a B1G team any year is a good win for a mid-major


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(03-07-2016 10:20 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  Beating a B1G team any year is a good win for a mid-major


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any B1G...except Rutgers

(03-07-2016 10:12 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Monmouth and Iona were playing in the MAAC Championship game tonight. That wasn't the semis.

Monmouth only played ONE home game in out of conference play. They won at UCLA, Georgetown, and Rutgers. Yeah, those teams weren't good this year, but those were brand name wins to start the year. They also did pick up high quality wins down in Orlando when they beat Notre Dame and USC.

Monmouth has a decent resume. The bubble definitely got smaller tonight.

"Rutgers" and "brand name" should NEVER be used together if you want others to take your post seriously.

Being Rutgers means about as much as our win over Minnesota.

This helps Tulsa's RPI seeing we beat Iona.

I dont think Monmouth has a chance. This will drop them in the 50s.

(03-07-2016 10:42 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  This helps Tulsa's RPI seeing we beat Iona.

I dont think Monmouth has a chance. This will drop them in the 50s.

Iona had an rpi around 80 so they won't drop a ton. 7 losses with a #171 isn't going to cut it thoughm

13 road wins matters.

Beating a UCLA team on the road to open the season matters. You know who lost to UCLA this year? Kentucky. Oregon. Oregon State. Arizona. Colorado. Gonzaga. That's a quality win.

Beating Georgetown in DC is a good win. The Hoyas faded but started strong. They beat Wisconsin, Syracuse, and Xavier this year. The X have an outside shot at a one seed.

Monmouth has a legit shot.

(03-07-2016 11:45 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  13 road wins matters.

Beating a UCLA team on the road to open the season matters. You know who lost to UCLA this year? Kentucky. Oregon. Oregon State. Arizona. Colorado. Gonzaga. That's a quality win.

Beating Georgetown in DC is a good win. The Hoyas faded but started strong. They beat Wisconsin, Syracuse, and Xavier this year. The X have an outside shot at a one seed.

Monmouth has a legit shot.

Legit shot...yes. lock = no. Can't have a sos of #170, rpi of 50, and 7 losses in a really bad league and be a lock.

(03-07-2016 07:27 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  27-6
Key Wins: UCLA, Notre Dame, USC, Georgetown, Rutgers
MAAC Regular Season Champs
BPI: 86 (4-2 vs BPI Top 100)
RPI: 49

I would say they are so we need to be rooting for them to win.

I haven't read the whole thread yet and someone probably already said this but obviously at this point, wins over UCLA and Georgetown don't carry the weight it looked like. Monmouth is in...the NIT. It's sad because there's literally no team that can dance the way Monmouth can.

(03-07-2016 08:06 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  Assuming the team in question doesn't win auto bid

Cincy: In (SMU win didn't hurt)
UConn: In (I think they are safely in but a few wins this week will help)
Tulsa: Bubble (needs some good wins this week)
UH: NIT (SOS likely killed them and their RPI)
Temple: NIT


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If they make it that far, the loser of the Houston and Tulsa game is out. And with the way things are going elsewhere and given how much they had to overcome already, Houston has to win the AAC unless the committee does them a huge favor.

(03-07-2016 08:14 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  Monmouth is sorta like ECU where they can't get teams to play them at home. The crouching staff is better than ECU because they decided to play on the road instead of playing crappy low RPI teams. Can we please hire this staff? Pretty please?


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But Monmouth was only looked upon as an easy game, just a step above a MEAC team, so they were scheduled for an easy win by some teams and it backfired. ECU has that repuation to a much smaller degree but not quite the same and besides any coach paying any attention knows that it's surprisingly tough to win at Minges.

(03-07-2016 10:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  my bad on Monmouth

but they had three putrid losses

not good for a mid major from a crap conference


and beating Gtown (this year) and Rutgers (any year) means zero

If you give them credit for beating Georgetown or Rutgers then you have to give a team like Houston credit for beating LSU. This isn't a pat on the back, good for you moment, the question is if they are one of the best teams. I think teams like Wichita and Monmouth are among the best teams but what they've earned on the court has to speak to that and because of that, I have trouble seeing them in the field over a UConn or Cincinnati. They had their shot and were bested more than once and when it mattered by teams in their league.

(03-07-2016 11:45 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  13 road wins matters.

Beating a UCLA team on the road to open the season matters. You know who lost to UCLA this year? Kentucky. Oregon. Oregon State. Arizona. Colorado. Gonzaga. That's a quality win.

Beating Georgetown in DC is a good win. The Hoyas faded but started strong. They beat Wisconsin, Syracuse, and Xavier this year. The X have an outside shot at a one seed.

Monmouth has a legit shot.

Really? What the bleep happened?

(03-08-2016 02:43 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:06 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  Assuming the team in question doesn't win auto bid

Cincy: In (SMU win didn't hurt)
UConn: In (I think they are safely in but a few wins this week will help)
Tulsa: Bubble (needs some good wins this week)
UH: NIT (SOS likely killed them and their RPI)
Temple: NIT


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If they make it that far, the loser of the Houston and Tulsa game is out. And with the way things are going elsewhere and given how much they had to overcome already, Houston has to win the AAC unless the committee does them a huge favor.

(03-07-2016 08:14 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  Monmouth is sorta like ECU where they can't get teams to play them at home. The crouching staff is better than ECU because they decided to play on the road instead of playing crappy low RPI teams. Can we please hire this staff? Pretty please?


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But Monmouth was only looked upon as an easy game, just a step above a MEAC team, so they were scheduled for an easy win by some teams and it backfired. ECU has that repuation to a much smaller degree but not quite the same and besides any coach paying any attention knows that it's surprisingly tough to win at Minges.

(03-07-2016 10:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  my bad on Monmouth

but they had three putrid losses

not good for a mid major from a crap conference


and beating Gtown (this year) and Rutgers (any year) means zero

If you give them credit for beating Georgetown or Rutgers then you have to give a team like Houston credit for beating LSU. This isn't a pat on the back, good for you moment, the question is if they are one of the best teams. I think teams like Wichita and Monmouth are among the best teams but what they've earned on the court has to speak to that and because of that, I have trouble seeing them in the field over a UConn or Cincinnati. They had their shot and were bested more than once and when it mattered by teams in their league.

They won't get in the field over UConn or Cincy. They will get in the field of Gonzaga, Oregon State, Michigan, etc Those are the true bubble teams.


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Tulsa moved back into the top 50 with the IONA win to 48

rooting for Ohio to win the MAC. Two conference champs would help our case.

They should be in imho. They'd a really good team. Same with Valpo. What sucks for mid majors like this is that their conference RPI can really hamper them. Kind of like how the bottom half of the AAC is hurting the top half.

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