(03-07-2016 02:20 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It's basically the P5 and everybody else. I prefer watching everybody else. P5 looks like an imitation version of professional sports. JMHO.

It's almost like two different sports.

I enjoy watching some of the smaller programs play because they tend to be much more closely matched.

But, can you not be excited watching one's alma mater play and win?

I wouldn't know. I didn't go to a P5 school. In football I watch ECU exclusively. In basketball I'll suffer through maybe a half season of our games. The rest of the season I prefer watching other AAC teams, the A10 and some of the Big East-MVC-Horizon-CAA conference games. I never watch the P5.

so why can't ACC schools pull this stuff off?

I'm sure FSU and Clemson could get this type of money

(03-07-2016 03:45 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  so why can't ACC schools pull this stuff off?

I'm sure FSU and Clemson could get this type of money

FSU has a deal with Learfield sports for their radio and Clemson is with IMG. Auburn had been doing what Fox is now paying for in-house. All Auburns radio broadcast have been by the Auburn radio network ran by the University.

(03-07-2016 03:45 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  so why can't ACC schools pull this stuff off?

I'm sure FSU and Clemson could get this type of money

Carolina's contract with Learfield is estimated to pay between $12 to $15 Million per year. The base contract pays $7.5M, but Carolina receives a percentage of the revenues.

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/3750675/

(03-07-2016 02:10 PM)XLance Wrote:  Good for Auburn. The interesting part is that it is with Fox Sports. Most of these type of contracts are with IMG and or Learfield.
Is Fox new to this area of sports marketing?
BTW IMG is based in Winston-Salem, NC.

That is what is significant about this, not the amount. Learfield and IMG have been buying up all their competitors. Now they have a major new one. Good news for athletic departments.

(03-07-2016 03:03 PM)panama Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:46 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It's basically the P5 and everybody else. I prefer watching everybody else. P5 looks like an imitation version of professional sports. JMHO.

Its not even the p5...bottom feeder p5s bout to get cooked

There is only so much you can do and buy. There is a point of diminishing returns. Not to mention, the more dough they show, the stronger the case for paying players is going to get. This will all come to a head probably sooner vs later and it wont be a P5-G5 split it'll be 20 or so programs that want to and can afford to formally disassociate from their institution and create a semi-professional league.

(03-07-2016 02:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  What does all of this money even do? This is a serious question. There comes a certain point where any additional football spending just gives you negligible results.

At $20m/year, you could probably buy everything that you really need to win more than you lose.

EDIT: I posted this just as Francis was saying the same thing, lol.

I will get back to you once I have this problem.

Malzahns new car. Seriously



Its almost comical

(03-07-2016 05:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 03:03 PM)panama Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:46 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It's basically the P5 and everybody else. I prefer watching everybody else. P5 looks like an imitation version of professional sports. JMHO.

Its not even the p5...bottom feeder p5s bout to get cooked

There is only so much you can do and buy. There is a point of diminishing returns. Not to mention, the more dough they show, the stronger the case for paying players is going to get. This will all come to a head probably sooner vs later and it wont be a P5-G5 split it'll be 20 or so programs that want to and can afford to formally disassociate from their institution and create a semi-professional league.

(03-07-2016 02:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  What does all of this money even do? This is a serious question. There comes a certain point where any additional football spending just gives you negligible results.

At $20m/year, you could probably buy everything that you really need to win more than you lose.

EDIT: I posted this just as Francis was saying the same thing, lol.

I will get back to you once I have this problem.

Malzahns new car. Seriously



Its almost comical

Adults with asperger's syndrome should not drive sports cars. He should have a Vespa. At least then Darwinian principles would take over.

(03-07-2016 05:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 05:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 03:03 PM)panama Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:46 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Its not even the p5...bottom feeder p5s bout to get cooked

There is only so much you can do and buy. There is a point of diminishing returns. Not to mention, the more dough they show, the stronger the case for paying players is going to get. This will all come to a head probably sooner vs later and it wont be a P5-G5 split it'll be 20 or so programs that want to and can afford to formally disassociate from their institution and create a semi-professional league.

(03-07-2016 02:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  What does all of this money even do? This is a serious question. There comes a certain point where any additional football spending just gives you negligible results.

At $20m/year, you could probably buy everything that you really need to win more than you lose.

EDIT: I posted this just as Francis was saying the same thing, lol.

I will get back to you once I have this problem.

Malzahns new car. Seriously



Its almost comical

Adults with asperger's syndrome should not drive sports cars. He should have a Vespa. At least then Darwinian principles would take over.

Saban would look good in one and and wouldnt have to worry about bumping his head when he got out

(03-07-2016 02:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 01:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 01:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 01:41 PM)shere khan Wrote:  http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-...ox-sports/

What?

Radio, licensed merchandise, signage, etc. Virtually everything not under TV contract to ESPN and CBS. At least that's the way it reads to me. That bumps us another 3 million a year roughly from what we were already receiving for those rights.

Wow. Auburn gets as much for their radio and signage as the entire American Athletic Conference gets for their entire ESPN TV package (which includes 1rst, 2nd, and 3rd tier rights). That's really almost unbelievable.

Its over dude. Wormer dropped the big one. There is gonna be 20 D1 programs. 6 in the SEC

Well at least LSU won't be one of the 20 since their dropping football.
Cheers!

(03-07-2016 02:46 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  There is only so much you can do and buy. There is a point of diminishing returns.

Remember when having $1 million to pay coach was irrelevant because no coach was ever going to make $1m a year? I do.

Remember when $50m would buy you a state of the art football stadium? I do.

If there are diminishing returns to spending money on athletics, we've never come close to reaching it. This additional money will enable Auburn to do even more things - in terms of coaches, staff, recruiting, facilities, academic support, etc. - than they could do before. It will ALL be useful in keeping Auburn in the top tier of college athletics.

And I don't like Auburn.

(03-07-2016 02:20 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It's basically the P5 and everybody else. I prefer watching everybody else. P5 looks like an imitation version of professional sports. JMHO.

It's almost like two different sports.

I enjoy watching some of the smaller programs play because they tend to be much more closely matched.

But, can you not be excited watching one's alma mater play and win?

Because my college is Division IIi and historically we don't win? Haha

LVC lost to Army 3-0 in 1916. Army won the National Championship that year.

LVC's last game against PSU was a narrow 12-6 defeat. We led the Lions 6-0 in the 4th quarter. The cowards never scheduled us again.

Just pay the kids already. I believe in amateurism as a tenet of collegieate athletics, but it's quite clear that nobody else follows this theory.