Dan Hoard ‏@Dan_Hoard 3m3 minutes ago
#Bearcats climb to 39th in the RPI ratings. They're 25th in ESPN's BPI rankings

(03-06-2016 09:45 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  They tip-off Friday 2pm ET on ESPN2. Whoever loses that game is on very thin ice.

UC needed that win over SMU...as I think UC "might" still get an at-large bid if they lose in the Quarterfinals to UCONN.

I think both coaches and players from both teams will play the game like a do or die game...which should make it an exciting game.

(03-07-2016 08:22 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 12:30 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 11:38 PM)quintas Wrote:  Get rid of the cheap insult and I agree with him on this. Those two will get the benefit of the doubt whether the teams actually deserve it or not this year. You can't get past subjectivity even in basketball.

I don't mind this so much for UConn. At least they have won it all in recent history.

In any case I hope the AAC gets in as many as possible. This is the time of year I start pulling for all our conference teams.

Believe it or not, Cincinnati and UConn have been to the tournament the same amount of times (19) since 1990. That said, UConn basketball is in a whole different stratosphere with their 4 national championships during that period and is a legitimate "blue blood" IMO. I think both probably do get a little more leeway with the selection committee than other AAC teams, which obviously isn't fair, but it is what it is.

I just hope we get at least 3 teams in. I would hate to see the slew of media drivel questioning our status as a power basketball conference if we get hosed again.

I hope the committee uses the same logic as you when it comes to leeway because if they do Temple should be in now. Since 1990 Temple has made the NCAA 18 times including 5 Elite Eights.

Combine that with the regular season championship, sweep of UConn and UC along with the SMU win and I can’t see how even with a first round loss Temple can be left out but UConn and UC both get in.

Personally I don't think it will matter based on how the committee has treated the conference the past 2 seasons, but i'm hoping your right.

Unfortunately, the last of the Elite Eights was 15 years ago and the current coach has 2 NCAA wins in 10 years. If history mattered for Temple, they would have gotten in last year.

I hope this Temple team gets in but I would get to the AAC final to feel better about my chances.

(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I respectfully disagree with Joey Brackets, especially if UConn wins. Cincinnati just beat SMU for goodness sake.

SMU was not that great of team. their best win according to RPI rankings was a 10 loss Colorado team followed by UC and Yale. SOS was outside the top 75. I give them a lot of credit for what they did with only 7 players.

(03-07-2016 08:16 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:52 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Apparently even mid-majors have that kind of bias, look at all of teh credit Wichita is getting for little accomplishment.

I read Wichita State has only 2 wins vs. the Top 75 RPI teams this year. Compare that with UC who has 7. Granted, UC's wins are mostly closer to 75 than 1 but still.

I don't think Wichita deserves a bid but I have a suspicion they will get in.

Not to mention we just got a W that the computers will think is similar to Utah.

I think it's close whether Witchita "deserves" it. One possible X factor is the lack of good mid-majors this year. Unless we are counting ourselves or possibly the BE, their are nearly 0 small conference teams getting at-large consideration. They might use Witchita as an excuse to get 1 in.

(03-07-2016 09:30 AM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I respectfully disagree with Joey Brackets, especially if UConn wins. Cincinnati just beat SMU for goodness sake.

SMU was not that great of team. their best win according to RPI rankings was a 10 loss Colorado team followed by UC and Yale. SOS was outside the top 75. I give them a lot of credit for what they did with only 7 players.

The Bearcats played the same amount of players as SMU yesterday. I really don't think 7 is a problem at all. Most teams shorten to 8 by design anyway, so they're basically a guy short against SOME teams.

(03-07-2016 09:30 AM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I respectfully disagree with Joey Brackets, especially if UConn wins. Cincinnati just beat SMU for goodness sake.

SMU was not that great of team. their best win according to RPI rankings was a 10 loss Colorado team followed by UC and Yale. SOS was outside the top 75. I give them a lot of credit for what they did with only 7 players.

they have 25 wins, a top-15 RPI, and they were ranked in the top-25....that's a great last W of the regular season for Cincy...a real signature W going into the AAC tourney.

(03-07-2016 10:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:30 AM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I respectfully disagree with Joey Brackets, especially if UConn wins. Cincinnati just beat SMU for goodness sake.

SMU was not that great of team. their best win according to RPI rankings was a 10 loss Colorado team followed by UC and Yale. SOS was outside the top 75. I give them a lot of credit for what they did with only 7 players.

they have 25 wins, a top-15 RPI, and they were ranked in the top-25....that's a great last W of the regular season for Cincy...a real signature W going into the AAC tourney.

I told someone yesterday that it was pretty ridiculous SMU was ranked only 24th. They only had 4 losses. Should have been in the top15 but didn't get a fair shake from the voters because they can't play in the postseason.

(03-07-2016 09:30 AM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I respectfully disagree with Joey Brackets, especially if UConn wins. Cincinnati just beat SMU for goodness sake.

SMU was not that great of team. their best win according to RPI rankings was a 10 loss Colorado team followed by UC and Yale. SOS was outside the top 75. I give them a lot of credit for what they did with only 7 players.

I only watched them play 4 times this year and I was not blown away. They were a good team but nothing stellar. They won games so I will give them credit for that. They actually remind me a lot of my Bearcats when it came to winning ugly. SMU did not spit the bit late in close games though which is the big difference between the two teams.

(03-07-2016 10:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:30 AM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I respectfully disagree with Joey Brackets, especially if UConn wins. Cincinnati just beat SMU for goodness sake.

SMU was not that great of team. their best win according to RPI rankings was a 10 loss Colorado team followed by UC and Yale. SOS was outside the top 75. I give them a lot of credit for what they did with only 7 players.

I only watched them play 4 times this year and I was not blown away. They were a good team but nothing stellar. They won games so I will give them credit for that. They actually remind me a lot of my Bearcats when it came to winning ugly. SMU did not spit the bit late in close games though which is the big difference between the two teams.

I agree. I wasn't saying they are a bad team but it's amusing that they were ranked in the top 25 all year when they didn't play a single ranked team all season. Some teams might have been ranked shortly but none were ranked at the time they played them.

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Cincinnati-UConn, Pitt-Syracuse, and Providence-Butler are not elimination games. In all situations the series was swept by one team and therefore not the traditional best 2 out 3 that we might see in a conference tournament scenario. If UConn, Pitt, and Butler win those games the losers should still be in however, if Cincinnati, Pitt, and Providence win then the losers of the games are in bigger trouble.

The real elimination game is possibly the A-10 semifinals between VCU and St. Bonnie. Both did nothing outside of conference play and then "won" the A-10 by playing a lopsided schedules that featured more bottom tier teams than upper tier teams. Both also suffered awful losses in conference play. St. Bonnie was beat by Duquense and LaSalle while VCU fell to UMass and George Mason. In a lot of ways their resumes are weaker versions of the Temple's resume with the big difference being Temple actually played 9 games against upper tier in the American and went 7-2 against that group. Not to mention that most respected "power" rankings would rate the to tier teams in the American much higher than the A-10's top tier.

(03-07-2016 02:51 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

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(03-06-2016 11:03 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:44 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:14 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  Joe LunardiVerified account
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Two likely "elimination games" already set: ACC (Pitt-Cuse, Wed., 12n) and American (Cincy-UConn, Fri., 2p).

Pitt is a lock, IMHO. Syracuse may need one more W.

When you actually look at Pitt's resume, it's pretty ridiculous that they are considered above and beyond our AAC bubble teams. Simply P5 bias.

Overall: 19-10
Conference: 9-9
RPI: 50
KenPom: 43
BPI: 42
Top 25 Wins: 1 (Duke)
2-6 vs. RPI Top 50
2 Sub-100 Losses
Non-Conference SOS: 178.
Best OOC Wins: Davidson, Kent State

Such is life in the G5 *sigh* stupid P5 bias

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NIU has done more with less than anyone in college football the past 10 years. You guys are basically Boise State junior, which in no way is meant as an insult. I think you guys would compete just fine in the AAC in football. It's a shame the attendance/fan support isn't where it needs to be to make the jump to this league. Just wanted to share that since I support the cause.

Thanks man, truly appreciate it!

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(03-07-2016 09:30 AM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I respectfully disagree with Joey Brackets, especially if UConn wins. Cincinnati just beat SMU for goodness sake.

SMU was not that great of team. their best win according to RPI rankings was a 10 loss Colorado team followed by UC and Yale. SOS was outside the top 75. I give them a lot of credit for what they did with only 7 players.

SOS is #71.

Colorado has wins over Oregon (#4 RPI), Oregon State (#30), Cal (#15), and Arizona (25). That's a good win. The Buffs have 10 losses because the Pac 12 is DEEEEEEEEEP. Only one sub 100 rpi team in that league.

SMU also beat a Michigan team by 24 points. Michigan isn't great, but the Wolverines did beat Texas (23), Maryland (12), and Purdue (16) and are considered a bubble team.

Wins over Stanford, Yale, and Gonzaga + a 13-5 conference record and a 9-4 record away from Moody all point to the fact that SMU is a VERY GOOD TEAM. Period.

(03-07-2016 09:56 AM)uccheese Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:16 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:52 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Apparently even mid-majors have that kind of bias, look at all of teh credit Wichita is getting for little accomplishment.

I read Wichita State has only 2 wins vs. the Top 75 RPI teams this year. Compare that with UC who has 7. Granted, UC's wins are mostly closer to 75 than 1 but still.

I don't think Wichita deserves a bid but I have a suspicion they will get in.

Not to mention we just got a W that the computers will think is similar to Utah.

I think it's close whether Witchita "deserves" it. One possible X factor is the lack of good mid-majors this year. Unless we are counting ourselves or possibly the BE, their are nearly 0 small conference teams getting at-large consideration. They might use Witchita as an excuse to get 1 in.

I would not be shocked, no pun intended, if the P5, BE, AAC, and the A-10 have all of the at large bids.

I could see it if Cincy wins the AAC and outside factors converge against the AAC.

(03-07-2016 12:56 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:56 AM)uccheese Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:16 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  I don't think Wichita deserves a bid but I have a suspicion they will get in.

I think it's close whether Wichita "deserves" it. One possible X factor is the lack of good mid-majors this year. Unless we are counting ourselves or possibly the BE, their are nearly 0 small conference teams getting at-large consideration. They might use Wichita as an excuse to get 1 in.

I would not be shocked, no pun intended, if the P5, BE, AAC, and the A-10 have all of the at large bids.

These comments turned out to be right on the mark. Nine conferences -- the 8 referenced by FB plus the MVC -- did receive all of the at-larges.

It's funny how I was wondering if UC would get in, when in reality the Selection Committee was nowhere close to excluding them.