How about this Texas and Notre Dame same deal with ACC. Then Kansas and Oklahoma as full ACC members. That is 16 in football and 18 in all other sports. This would increase our revenue , our status and our power in both football and men's basketball.

Notre Dame
Texas

Northern Division
Kansas
Oklahoma
Louisville
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia Tech
Miami

Southern Division
Virginia
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
FSU

I'm all for unequal revenue sharing.

We already have it....let's do it all the way.

(03-06-2016 11:36 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  How about this Texas and Notre Dame same deal with ACC. Then Kansas and Oklahoma as full ACC members. That is 16 in football and 18 in all other sports. This would increase our revenue , our status and our power in both football and men's basketball.

Notre Dame
Texas

Northern Division
Kansas
Oklahoma
Louisville
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia Tech
Miami

Southern Division
Virginia
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
FSU

For the one trillionth time, no more partial memberships. Notre Dame is unique and Texas, despite what they would tell us, is not.

Lol, That would get the B1G & SEC panties in a wad.

If we haven't already offered Texas a ND deal, we 100% should. They'd never join because the Big XII 100% would match to keep them. However, that alone is a benefit to the ACC because it makes the Big XII (as a whole) weaker.

(03-06-2016 11:36 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  How about this Texas and Notre Dame same deal with ACC. Then Kansas and Oklahoma as full ACC members. That is 16 in football and 18 in all other sports. This would increase our revenue , our status and our power in both football and men's basketball.




Northern Division
Notre Dame
Kansas
Louisville
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia Tech
Miami
Virginia

Southern Division
Texas
Oklahoma
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
FSU

And This would probably move the ACC into the Top or #2 slot among the P4

(03-06-2016 04:37 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 11:36 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  How about this Texas and Notre Dame same deal with ACC. Then Kansas and Oklahoma as full ACC members. That is 16 in football and 18 in all other sports. This would increase our revenue , our status and our power in both football and men's basketball.

Notre Dame
Texas

Northern Division
Kansas
Oklahoma
Louisville
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia Tech
Miami

Southern Division
Virginia
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
FSU

For the one trillionth time, no more partial memberships. Notre Dame is unique and Texas, despite what they would tell us, is not.

I don't think Texas has been (or is even now currently) interested in a partial agreement like ND's. However, when they were approached by the ACC back in 2011(?), it was about full membership then, not a partial deal.

To have a shot at Texas, imho, there is going to need to be a very Texas friendly pod. And even then, as long as the B12 continues on, that is their best option.

Cheers,
Neil

(03-07-2016 12:09 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  If we haven't already offered Texas a ND deal, we 100% should. They'd never join because the Big XII 100% would match to keep them. However, that alone is a benefit to the ACC because it makes the Big XII (as a whole) weaker.

While we are at it, let's offer the same deal to Alabama and Ohio State!

(03-07-2016 01:48 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 12:09 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  If we haven't already offered Texas a ND deal, we 100% should. They'd never join because the Big XII 100% would match to keep them. However, that alone is a benefit to the ACC because it makes the Big XII (as a whole) weaker.

While we are at it, let's offer the same deal to Alabama and Ohio State!

It only works with really, really top-heavy conferences. I'm not sold that Alabama would be better off taking the deal, so the threat to leave isn't credible.

Now, if you offered to cover them on footballRX.... well... that's an entirely different story.

Texas as a partial could work for everybody. 5 game deal with ACC just like ND in football. All of Texas' common ACC Olympic sports are full members with a GoR signed. Texas can keep those sports that the ACC don't play in the Big12. Texas could also pledge 5 games to the remaining Big 12.

The LHN would be able to get a much higher rate in all of ACC territory as it would have multiple ACC football games on it, not to mention the Olympic sports. ESPN wins big time. The Big 12 still gets some Texas Olympics and 5 or so football games with them but now can add teams to have CCG and have their own network.

In the Olympic sports the ACC would be at 16 teams so no reason to add any other schools.

Texas could be added to the Orange Bowl agreement just like ND so the ACC stands to gain some money there as well.

With the stellar Olympic sports involving ND and Texas, the ACC could develope their own subscription based network in order to take advantage of emerging technologies.

BTW, it will support ND remaining independent. I think there are pluses and minuses to that, but really more pluses.

Not with the Texas as a partial member like Norte Dame...ND has been a Independent for it entire existence.

All for Texas in the ACC and they can bring a partner with them-(TCU or Baylor)...no more partials

Texas likes being in a conference and has not shown interest in being an indy. Texas lacks a national following like ND. Texas and OU rule the Big 12. What is in this proposed deal for Teas to go indy? Really, nothing. They could not beat up the regional patsies (let's be honest, once Texas rebuilds, only OU in the Big 12 can play with them) as they would need an ND-esque schedule. They would not have a reasonable road to the playoffs. They would lose out on conference payouts (they are not getting a nationwide deal like ND has with NBC). Just an opinion, but this is not a good deal for anyone.

I say no more partial/transitional members until the current transitional member (Notre Dame) becomes a full member.

(03-10-2016 04:06 AM)opossum Wrote:  I say no more partial/transitional members until the current transitional member (Notre Dame) becomes a full member.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic

(03-10-2016 04:06 AM)opossum Wrote:  I say no more partial/transitional members until the current transitional member (Notre Dame) becomes a full member.

ND isn't a transitional member.

(03-09-2016 07:49 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  Texas likes being in a conference and has not shown interest in being an indy. Texas lacks a national following like ND. Texas and OU rule the Big 12.

Texas WANTS a national following though...they WANT to be National

They just don't know how to make it happen. They are afraid to let go of the regionality, but want their own network.

If Texas got the same kind of ND deal, they'd have partial FB games, and they'd get in to ACC basketball....it would be a huge step up

IMO, it would be better for the ACC if Texas and ND did not have voting power regarding football. We can make money off them both but still be at arms length. We make money, they make football decisions best for themselves. Of coarse, Texas will have to go undefeated in order to make the CFP just like ND. At least they wouldn't have to play in a CCG which is what they appear to want.

(03-10-2016 12:44 PM)Dasville Wrote:  IMO, it would be better for the ACC if Texas and ND did not have voting power regarding football. We can make money off them both but still be at arms length. We make money, they make football decisions best for themselves. Of coarse, Texas will have to go undefeated in order to make the CFP just like ND. At least they wouldn't have to play in a CCG which is what they appear to want.

As long as ND plays 5 ACC teams every year, they aren't going undefeated.

(03-10-2016 02:23 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:44 PM)Dasville Wrote:  IMO, it would be better for the ACC if Texas and ND did not have voting power regarding football. We can make money off them both but still be at arms length. We make money, they make football decisions best for themselves. Of coarse, Texas will have to go undefeated in order to make the CFP just like ND. At least they wouldn't have to play in a CCG which is what they appear to want.

As long as ND plays 5 ACC teams every year, they aren't going undefeated.

You are right, ND only went 5-1 against the ACC last year in football, losing at Clemson by 2 points.

(03-10-2016 04:33 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 02:23 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-10-2016 12:44 PM)Dasville Wrote:  IMO, it would be better for the ACC if Texas and ND did not have voting power regarding football. We can make money off them both but still be at arms length. We make money, they make football decisions best for themselves. Of coarse, Texas will have to go undefeated in order to make the CFP just like ND. At least they wouldn't have to play in a CCG which is what they appear to want.

As long as ND plays 5 ACC teams every year, they aren't going undefeated.

You are right, ND only went 5-1 against the ACC last year in football, losing at Clemson by 2 points.

So not even in your best year? Uh-oh.