(03-02-2016 10:53 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  FWIW, Buzz Williams and Marquette decided to mutually part ways after the 2014 season for a multitude of reasons. The school had an interim president and an interim AD, and there were rumors that the academic and conduct expectations of the basketball program would be changing (they eventually did with new President/AD/Wojo). Buzz was also told that his roll-over one-year extension with salary increases would no longer be granted, and that his contract would not be renegotiated at the conclusion of the 2013-14 season (he had 4 additional years left). Buzz, who in years past, had interviews/conversations with SMU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and a handful of other schools. He does not have an agent, so whenever a school contacted him - it was reported that he had direct discussions with other schools. Marquette also told him that they would not be as tolerant as accepting JUCOs (players like Butler, Crowder, DJO, others) due to the academic ramifications they had on the team - and for a guy like Buzz, who is a JUCO himself and loves recruiting players like that, that was the final straw. After he did leave for VT, which gave him a guaranteed 7-year deal - which Buzz wrote himself, and which stipulated that his full contract was guaranteed if he was dismissed - the natural spin was using the new Big East, it's new exposure and lack of elite coaches as reasons why. The real reason is that he was good friends with Whit Babcock, whom he knew through Mick Cronin at UC, and he was given a the keys to the city at VT, and he would always be an underdog at the school (which he embraces and loves) in the top basketball conference in the country (along side Coach K, Boeheim, Williams and Pitino). He also can recruit kids he wants (JUCOs) without restrictions from ramifications. Having said that, I'm a huge Buzz fan and hope he succeeds at VT. His teams at MU were always tough and competitive.

Going off of that, programs like Marquette and Xavier are not built on one coach or one era. Both programs have had numerous successful talented coaches that have each elevated the program in new ways and built upon the success of their successors. Marquette has had Buzz, Crean, Kevin O'Neill, Majerus and McGuire all lead different eras to unique heights, and Xavier - with Gillen, Prosser, Matta, Miller and now Mack - is no different. I have no doubt that Mack will coach somewhere else in his career. Maybe it's next year, maybe it's not. However, Xavier will continue to be a strong basketball program with a different coach at the helm. That's what successful programs do.

Xavier and Marquette are very solid programs...gotta agree on this point

(03-02-2016 08:59 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:51 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 06:38 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 06:20 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 06:14 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Lot has changed since then. The Big East is now viewed as a power conference in basketball and his team is fighting for a 1 seed. Once again, Cincy fans are heavily biased in this discussion.

Dude I'm relaying information that I clearly stated was a rumor. It's not a rumor that Mack was extremely upset with the same Xavier administration that is currently there over expelling one of his players from the school. If you think I'm on some personal mission to undermine Xavier or Chris Mack by posting on a message board then I don't know what to tell you.

Where did I say you were undermining anything? You're biased because every Cincy fan would LOVE to see Mack gone since he is kicking your guys butts.

So did Miller, Matta, and Prosser. Granted Xavier wasn't in the Big East at the time they lost any of those names but let's also not pretend that the current Big East is on the same level as the ACC or that a private Catholic school could match Louisville if it came to a spending contest. Even if Mack left Xavier it's not like Xavier has had any problem replacing coaches over the years.

Yup...in regards to College Basketball when it comes to facilities and money along with Tradition Louisville takes a backseat to nobody....and as I said in this thread Prosser left for Wake Forest, Motta for Ohio State and Miller for Arizona...when those are solid Basketball schools they are not Louisville.

Not to mention Marquette-(BIG EAST School) lost Buzz Williams to a Mid to Lower ACC School Virginia Tech....plus Louisville will be Preseason Top 8 next year as well.

Xavier should be ranked pretty high going into next season. Only losing Abell and Farr. Reynolds might go but he has under preformed this year for them and hasn't looked like an nba player.

Also did the ncaa finish their investigation on UL yet? if not then they could have more punishments being handed down from the ncaa. the money looks great but I wouldn't want to walk into that **** storm. Mack is probably making close to 2 mil/yr. hard to find a solid number for him since X doesn't have to disclose his salary. I believe the founder of Home City Ice is giving X a lot of money for a Head Coach Endowment also.

(03-02-2016 01:04 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:59 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:51 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 06:38 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 06:20 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Dude I'm relaying information that I clearly stated was a rumor. It's not a rumor that Mack was extremely upset with the same Xavier administration that is currently there over expelling one of his players from the school. If you think I'm on some personal mission to undermine Xavier or Chris Mack by posting on a message board then I don't know what to tell you.

Where did I say you were undermining anything? You're biased because every Cincy fan would LOVE to see Mack gone since he is kicking your guys butts.

So did Miller, Matta, and Prosser. Granted Xavier wasn't in the Big East at the time they lost any of those names but let's also not pretend that the current Big East is on the same level as the ACC or that a private Catholic school could match Louisville if it came to a spending contest. Even if Mack left Xavier it's not like Xavier has had any problem replacing coaches over the years.

Yup...in regards to College Basketball when it comes to facilities and money along with Tradition Louisville takes a backseat to nobody....and as I said in this thread Prosser left for Wake Forest, Motta for Ohio State and Miller for Arizona...when those are solid Basketball schools they are not Louisville.

Not to mention Marquette-(BIG EAST School) lost Buzz Williams to a Mid to Lower ACC School Virginia Tech....plus Louisville will be Preseason Top 8 next year as well.

Xavier should be ranked pretty high going into next season. Only losing Abell and Farr. Reynolds might go but he has under preformed this year for them and hasn't looked like an nba player.

Also did the ncaa finish their investigation on UL yet? if not then they could have more punishments being handed down from the ncaa. the money looks great but I wouldn't want to walk into that **** storm. Mack is probably making close to 2 mil/yr. hard to find a solid number for him since X doesn't have to disclose his salary. I believe the founder of Home City Ice is giving X a lot of money for a Head Coach Endowment also.

Still ongoing with the investigation bit more than likely this will be it as far as Tournament ban...the NCAA rarely gives multi year bans especially when a school self punishes and the person who is runner the investigation for Louisville is Chuck Smrt who reputation with the NCAA is extremely strong

Pitino makes close to $5 Million a year currently

(03-02-2016 02:20 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 01:04 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:59 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:51 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 06:38 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Where did I say you were undermining anything? You're biased because every Cincy fan would LOVE to see Mack gone since he is kicking your guys butts.

So did Miller, Matta, and Prosser. Granted Xavier wasn't in the Big East at the time they lost any of those names but let's also not pretend that the current Big East is on the same level as the ACC or that a private Catholic school could match Louisville if it came to a spending contest. Even if Mack left Xavier it's not like Xavier has had any problem replacing coaches over the years.

Yup...in regards to College Basketball when it comes to facilities and money along with Tradition Louisville takes a backseat to nobody....and as I said in this thread Prosser left for Wake Forest, Motta for Ohio State and Miller for Arizona...when those are solid Basketball schools they are not Louisville.

Not to mention Marquette-(BIG EAST School) lost Buzz Williams to a Mid to Lower ACC School Virginia Tech....plus Louisville will be Preseason Top 8 next year as well.

Xavier should be ranked pretty high going into next season. Only losing Abell and Farr. Reynolds might go but he has under preformed this year for them and hasn't looked like an nba player.

Also did the ncaa finish their investigation on UL yet? if not then they could have more punishments being handed down from the ncaa. the money looks great but I wouldn't want to walk into that **** storm. Mack is probably making close to 2 mil/yr. hard to find a solid number for him since X doesn't have to disclose his salary. I believe the founder of Home City Ice is giving X a lot of money for a Head Coach Endowment also.

Still ongoing with the investigation bit more than likely this will be it as far as Tournament ban...the NCAA rarely gives multi year bans especially when a school self punishes.

Pitino makes close to $5 Million a year currently

The next coach isn't going to start out getting paid anywhere near what pitino is making now.

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(03-02-2016 02:22 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 02:20 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 01:04 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:59 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:51 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  So did Miller, Matta, and Prosser. Granted Xavier wasn't in the Big East at the time they lost any of those names but let's also not pretend that the current Big East is on the same level as the ACC or that a private Catholic school could match Louisville if it came to a spending contest. Even if Mack left Xavier it's not like Xavier has had any problem replacing coaches over the years.

Yup...in regards to College Basketball when it comes to facilities and money along with Tradition Louisville takes a backseat to nobody....and as I said in this thread Prosser left for Wake Forest, Motta for Ohio State and Miller for Arizona...when those are solid Basketball schools they are not Louisville.

Not to mention Marquette-(BIG EAST School) lost Buzz Williams to a Mid to Lower ACC School Virginia Tech....plus Louisville will be Preseason Top 8 next year as well.

Xavier should be ranked pretty high going into next season. Only losing Abell and Farr. Reynolds might go but he has under preformed this year for them and hasn't looked like an nba player.

Also did the ncaa finish their investigation on UL yet? if not then they could have more punishments being handed down from the ncaa. the money looks great but I wouldn't want to walk into that **** storm. Mack is probably making close to 2 mil/yr. hard to find a solid number for him since X doesn't have to disclose his salary. I believe the founder of Home City Ice is giving X a lot of money for a Head Coach Endowment also.

Still ongoing with the investigation bit more than likely this will be it as far as Tournament ban...the NCAA rarely gives multi year bans especially when a school self punishes.

Pitino makes close to $5 Million a year currently

The next coach isn't going to start out getting paid anywhere near what pitino is making now.

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Unless that next coach is coming from the NBA ... it'll take that kind of dough to get them.

Billy Donovan could be a likely successor. But I see that being more likely in a couple years when Pitino wants to go out on his terms. And after Donovan's run with OKC has had a little time.

Brad Stevens is a pipe dream for many schools. And he is sitting pretty in Boston right now. But who knows what can happen in a couple of years.

I think if Pitino was going to return, we'd have already heard that was the case.

(03-02-2016 02:20 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 01:04 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:59 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:51 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 06:38 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Where did I say you were undermining anything? You're biased because every Cincy fan would LOVE to see Mack gone since he is kicking your guys butts.

So did Miller, Matta, and Prosser. Granted Xavier wasn't in the Big East at the time they lost any of those names but let's also not pretend that the current Big East is on the same level as the ACC or that a private Catholic school could match Louisville if it came to a spending contest. Even if Mack left Xavier it's not like Xavier has had any problem replacing coaches over the years.

Yup...in regards to College Basketball when it comes to facilities and money along with Tradition Louisville takes a backseat to nobody....and as I said in this thread Prosser left for Wake Forest, Motta for Ohio State and Miller for Arizona...when those are solid Basketball schools they are not Louisville.

Not to mention Marquette-(BIG EAST School) lost Buzz Williams to a Mid to Lower ACC School Virginia Tech....plus Louisville will be Preseason Top 8 next year as well.

Xavier should be ranked pretty high going into next season. Only losing Abell and Farr. Reynolds might go but he has under preformed this year for them and hasn't looked like an nba player.

Also did the ncaa finish their investigation on UL yet? if not then they could have more punishments being handed down from the ncaa. the money looks great but I wouldn't want to walk into that **** storm. Mack is probably making close to 2 mil/yr. hard to find a solid number for him since X doesn't have to disclose his salary. I believe the founder of Home City Ice is giving X a lot of money for a Head Coach Endowment also.

Still ongoing with the investigation bit more than likely this will be it as far as Tournament ban...the NCAA rarely gives multi year bans especially when a school self punishes and the person who is runner the investigation for Louisville is Chuck Smrt who reputation with the NCAA is extremely strong

Pitino makes close to $5 Million a year currently

Pitino is the upper echelon of coachers being both a hall of famer and a national champ at multiple schools. No one short of another hall of famer is going to get that much from Louisville.

Louisville will pay at least as much as what Texas paid Shaka Smart- roughly 3 million a year.

(03-02-2016 02:52 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Louisville will pay at least as much as what Texas paid Shaka Smart- roughly 3 million a year.

For a coach like a Jay Wright, Sean Miller, Shaka Smart, Greg Marshall I can see Louisville paying plus $4 Million and I can easily see Louisville paying a Archie Miller/Chris Mack between $3.5 to 4 Million....Remember we paid Bob Petrino over! 3.5 Million to leave WKU

Louisville replaced HOF Coach Denny Crum with a HOF Coach in Rick Pitino. Keep in mind that Louisville has only had two different coaches in 45 years. Compared to UNC, Duke and IU that have all had 4, Kentucky that's had 7 or UCLA that has had 10. The Louisville job just doesn't come open that often. (Much like Syracuse that has only had 2 coaches in 48 years)

As for affording a coach, UofL made 24 Million profit on revenues of 40 Million. Those numbers rival the top football programs.
CJ

Pitino will be back if UofL wants him to come back. He still wants to coach. He considered retiring after losing to Morehead State in the first round of the NCAA tourney a few years ago & has said since that he takes some time after the season to decide if he still wants to coach or not. He still seems to enjoy coaching so as long as UofL (BOT's) still wants him he will be back next year.

If not he will take another job, UNLV possibly. The NBA is out, he has already said that he no longer has any desire to coach there or to coach on the road on a long NBA schedule.

Pitino
Petrino

UofL is slimy


Two slime ball coaches

(03-02-2016 10:23 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Pitino
Petrino

UofL is slimy


Two slime ball coaches

Your boy Mick sure loves him some Pitino though ....

(03-02-2016 10:23 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Pitino
Petrino

UofL is slimy


Two slime ball coaches

Two that absolutely own Cincinnati. Petrino says..."remember 70-7?"

BTW Bearcats1, Mike says Hi ! Whoot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(03-02-2016 10:23 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Pitino
Petrino

UofL is slimy


Two slime ball coaches

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Give in to the troll side

(03-02-2016 02:35 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 02:22 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 02:20 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 01:04 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 08:59 AM)Maize Wrote:  Yup...in regards to College Basketball when it comes to facilities and money along with Tradition Louisville takes a backseat to nobody....and as I said in this thread Prosser left for Wake Forest, Motta for Ohio State and Miller for Arizona...when those are solid Basketball schools they are not Louisville.

Not to mention Marquette-(BIG EAST School) lost Buzz Williams to a Mid to Lower ACC School Virginia Tech....plus Louisville will be Preseason Top 8 next year as well.

Xavier should be ranked pretty high going into next season. Only losing Abell and Farr. Reynolds might go but he has under preformed this year for them and hasn't looked like an nba player.

Also did the ncaa finish their investigation on UL yet? if not then they could have more punishments being handed down from the ncaa. the money looks great but I wouldn't want to walk into that **** storm. Mack is probably making close to 2 mil/yr. hard to find a solid number for him since X doesn't have to disclose his salary. I believe the founder of Home City Ice is giving X a lot of money for a Head Coach Endowment also.

Still ongoing with the investigation bit more than likely this will be it as far as Tournament ban...the NCAA rarely gives multi year bans especially when a school self punishes.

Pitino makes close to $5 Million a year currently

The next coach isn't going to start out getting paid anywhere near what pitino is making now.

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Unless that next coach is coming from the NBA ... it'll take that kind of dough to get them.

Billy Donovan could be a likely successor. But I see that being more likely in a couple years when Pitino wants to go out on his terms. And after Donovan's run with OKC has had a little time.

Brad Stevens is a pipe dream for many schools. And he is sitting pretty in Boston right now. But who knows what can happen in a couple of years.

Does Ricky get to make terms? Remember, he had no idea UL admin was going to implement a post season ban. He was staunchly against the idea, forced to accept it by the powers that be. Ricky, the hall of fame super-coach, had no say so in the matter at all..............

(03-02-2016 11:41 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 10:23 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Pitino
Petrino

UofL is slimy


Two slime ball coaches

Your boy Mick sure loves him some Pitino though ....

If Louisville doesn't want Rick around anymore I'd love to do a Mick for Rick trade. Of course Louisville hasn't gotten where they are by making mistakes like that.

Rick Pitino as a basketball coach was a tremendous hire 15 years ago. Rick Pitino as an investment has been an even bigger success. I would estimate, just my estimation, that Pitino's presence on the sideline nets Louisville an additional 10 million a year in donations to the program for tickets, speaking engagements, endorsements etc. Considering what Pitino adds to the bottom line of our athletic program, his salary is money well spent.
CJ