P5?

Why P5?

Why so specific 5 and not a simple generic power conference like a major conference?

They wanted to reduce the 6 major conferences to 5 but the label already assigned to a certain conference can’t take back. It’s less confusion and meets their goal of 5 conferences but not 5 major conferences and not wanting any more conference working their way back in the club. It has to be a higher tier so only they can participate in a playoff or justify and no other lesser conferences can participate in a playoff.

What other benefit with such label? They can pay these non-P5 conferences next to nothing and all the saving go to power conferences. A great idea is it not? JMO

What is the characteristic of a P5 school?

I asked these questions because I don’t believe P4 scenario where 5 power conferences will be reducing to 4. I understand people offer such idea to simplify for the playoff but there is a better solution without reducing to 4.

I can see this current playoff system that the same handful of schools participates year after year. This is not good for the sport. It’s too exclusive. I don’t believe expand to 8-teams is the solution. There are too many games for regular season already.

A playoff needs to be more inclusive and less predictable but not playing too many games.

College Football Playoff version 4.5

It is still a 4-team playoff.

The committee is still doing the ranking for the top 5 team at the end of the season.

The first 3 spots are filled by first top 3 ranked teams.

The 4th spot is filled by the winner of a play-in game between 4th and 5th ranked team.

Ideally you wanted all 5 champs from 5 power conference to get an opportunity in a playoff every year. But I want a guarantee ranking of an undefeated G5 team (13-0) to ranked 5th and a 12-0 Notre Dame will always be ranked 4th. So a 13-0 G5 team will never rank higher a 5th best team in the country at the end of a season just like a 12-0 Notre Dame will never be higher than a 4th best in the country. An 11-1 Notre Dame can be a 5th best team in the country only if there is no undefeated G5 team.

Where and when?

It should be at the home of 4th ranked team on Christmas Eve.

No New Year Eve bowl game that is for celebration for end of the year.

New Year day should be reserve for major bowl matchup games and never playoff games

P5

Because there are five conferences that have big boy tv contracts, big boy bowl alliances, and five conferences that have flagship football programs.

An undefeated G5 conference champion & Notre Dame can make the CFP as is, why should they get a guarantee? Suppose an undefeated G5 champ goes the entire season without playing a top 50 team, why would they deserve a guaranteed top 5 ranking in the CFP?

Lol FSU plays ACC schools why should they be aloud in if they are undefeated. Just because a school is in a P5 conference doesn't mean that conference is that good. You play the schedule you have. Its stupid and unfair the G5 is excluded like they are, and doesn't make sense to me as everyone loves a cinderella. I like the idea of a play in game, and really your setting the bar quite high for a G5 school to be undefeated in the first place. Call me a homer, call me what you will, the majority of those P5 schools couldn't win American, MW, or Mac, so talking about schedules is a bit unfair, especially when some of the P5 schools have 2 and 3 FCS schools on them.

I don't for a second pretend that the G5 and P5 are atheletically similar....but every year there is a G5 out there than can complete and win against the big boys....its garbage they get excluded, especially considering all the advantages the P5 has. That G5 school that went undefeated has earned it.

But that's the thing. They are NOT excluded. The problem is, like you said: did they win against enough high quality competition? The answer for most G5 conferences is no and that's not the fault of the P5. The P5 cant force G5 programs and fans to spend the billions of dollars they have on their programs to create quality conferences with lots of good competition and high quality athletes week in and week out. So its going to be a very year to year deal with the G5 to produce someone who went undefeated against a good enough schedule.

Look at UH. They have a quality OOC schedule and a challenging conference schedule next year. If they go undefeated they have as good a shot as any P conference champ of making it into a limited field.

(02-29-2016 12:58 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  But that's the thing. They are NOT excluded. The problem is, like you said: did they win against enough high quality competition? The answer for most G5 conferences is no and that's not the fault of the P5. The P5 cant force G5 programs and fans to spend the billions of dollars they have on their programs to create quality conferences with lots of good competition and high quality athletes week in and week out. So its going to be a very year to year deal with the G5 to produce someone who went undefeated against a good enough schedule.

Look at UH. They have a quality OOC schedule and a challenging conference schedule next year. If they go undefeated they have as good a shot as any P conference champ of making it into a limited field.

LOL this is such a unfair comment it boggles the mind. If you think for a minute that 70% of the G5 schools if in a P5 conference wouldn't be all in on their programs your crazy. Our conferences don't have those big contracts the P5 does, and thus we have to recruit behind the 8 ball. Its not by choice. Yet each year we have G5 schools succeed despite the system. In my opinion if despite all the hurdles a G5 school has to over come....they can still go undefeated....then they deserve some sort of access to a playoff. Their kids do, the university does and so does the fan base. It must be nice to be part of the club and look down on the rest like its our fault we aren't at that level.

You do realize that the P5 don't have AQs either right? That there could be 5 undefeated P5 teams and one is still going to get left out right? And that the one that gets left out is going to be because their schedule was the least rigorous of the 5 right?

So why is it unfair if that same standard is also applied to ND and the G5?

And as for your contracts, it isn't the P5 holding you back. ESPN doesn't give a flip about anything but product that makes them money. If the AAC was averaging 50K+ a game, you'd have a big time contract too. But that's up to AAC school fans and boosters to build and fill big time stadiums and watch on TV and support your conference.