At the risk of agreeing with JRsec ... if cable TV does fall apart and streaming premium (read: $$$) services online take over as the revenue driver, the SEC, which already has much of the infrastructure in place due to the SECN, would have BIG financial incentive to add FSU/GT/CU. And that's as much about donor dollars and political unification as it is demand for streaming services (particularly football). If they could square the organizational circle of a conference that big, I think they'd take Duke/UNC/NCST/UVA/VT as well for the basketball/Olympic demand. And at that point a megaconference becomes attractive.

(03-01-2016 11:05 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  At the risk of agreeing with JRsec ... if cable TV does fall apart and streaming premium (read: $$$) services online take over as the revenue driver, the SEC, which already has much of the infrastructure in place due to the SECN, would have BIG financial incentive to add FSU/GT/CU. And that's as much about donor dollars and political unification as it is demand for streaming services (particularly football). If they could square the organizational circle of a conference that big, I think they'd take Duke/UNC/NCST/UVA/VT as well for the basketball/Olympic demand. And at that point a megaconference becomes attractive.

Tend to agree here. The SEC could lock down the south and pick up 2 new populous states by picking up Clemson, FSU, UNC, Duke, UVa, and VT. Their play might be for content and consolidation.

(03-02-2016 06:55 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 11:05 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  At the risk of agreeing with JRsec ... if cable TV does fall apart and streaming premium (read: $$$) services online take over as the revenue driver, the SEC, which already has much of the infrastructure in place due to the SECN, would have BIG financial incentive to add FSU/GT/CU. And that's as much about donor dollars and political unification as it is demand for streaming services (particularly football). If they could square the organizational circle of a conference that big, I think they'd take Duke/UNC/NCST/UVA/VT as well for the basketball/Olympic demand. And at that point a megaconference becomes attractive.

Tend to agree here. The SEC could lock down the south and pick up 2 new populous states by picking up Clemson, FSU, UNC, Duke, UVa, and VT. Their play might be for content and consolidation.

In a streaming model markets don't matter nearly as much, it's about the content. Therefore doubling or tripling up in states can be valuable. One thing you need for content is rivalries. FSU & Clemson would be great for the SEC in this model. I would think that GT, Miami, Texas, Louisville, NC & Duke would all add valuable content to the SEC.

If it goes to a streaming, sell direct-to-customer model... why not go independent? Schedule games YOUR fans want to pay to see, and share the revenue with no one!

(03-02-2016 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If it goes to a streaming, sell direct-to-customer model... why not go independent? Schedule games YOUR fans want to pay to see, and share the revenue with no one!

1. Packaging content with favorable ovarian rd decreases elasticities, allowing the content seller to charge more.

2. Conferences are vehicles that reduce per school transaction costs (i.e. the fixed costs associated with TV negotiations can be split multiple ways).

3. Post season access (both on a conference tourney-level and a NCAA level) is better with a conference due to NCAA rules (i.e. auto bids and CCG's).

(03-02-2016 04:43 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If it goes to a streaming, sell direct-to-customer model... why not go independent? Schedule games YOUR fans want to pay to see, and share the revenue with no one!

1. Packaging content with favorable ovarian rd decreases elasticities, allowing the content seller to charge more.

2. Conferences are vehicles that reduce per school transaction costs (i.e. the fixed costs associated with TV negotiations can be split multiple ways).

3. Post season access (both on a conference tourney-level and a NCAA level) is better with a conference due to NCAA rules (i.e. auto bids and CCG's).

"favorable ovarian rd"? what do progesterone receptors have to do with it?

(03-02-2016 04:43 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If it goes to a streaming, sell direct-to-customer model... why not go independent? Schedule games YOUR fans want to pay to see, and share the revenue with no one!

1. Packaging content with favorable ovarian rd decreases elasticities, allowing the content seller to charge more.

2. Conferences are vehicles that reduce per school transaction costs (i.e. the fixed costs associated with TV negotiations can be split multiple ways).

3. Post season access (both on a conference tourney-level and a NCAA level) is better with a conference due to NCAA rules (i.e. auto bids and CCG's).

Plus, you have the exposure/advertising your institution aspect of it. Even if this methodology could generate the same amount of cash for some, which I doubt, the exposure of the sport itself, and especially the schools involved, would plummet.

This is basically what boxing did. The individuals at the very top would be able to get a much bigger piece of a much smaller pie. That piece for some would be bigger than they are making right now. But the damage to the sport would be tremendous, resulting in tons of programs dropping football, and probably fewer than 30 competing at a meaningful level.

I don't think anyone would go for that, even if it meant, for example, that Alabama was making say $60M instead of $35M from media rights. Who are they going to play?

(03-02-2016 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If it goes to a streaming, sell direct-to-customer model... why not go independent? Schedule games YOUR fans want to pay to see, and share the revenue with no one!

As much as some folks want to believe that content over market will win out, it just won't happen.

(03-01-2016 06:45 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 12:27 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 09:01 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 07:52 AM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  ACC is where its at but if Syracuse left I think a lot of teams would have bounced first. I would hope we would be good enough for The Big Ten. Add a team like Louisville, I think the Big Ten could do worse than Cuse and the Ville.

I love the ACC though, I would like to be in this conference forever.

If the ACC went away, the BIG would be our only hope. On the other hand, if the ACC disbanded, we better hop that the SEC doesn't want schools like Clemson and FSU because of duplicate markets. The B12 is not a threat to the ACC.

From the comments on this thread, I would surmise that the B1G isn't a threat either. In fact, the only risk to the ACC would appear to be the potential loss to the SEC of FSU and Clemson. And, while nobody wants that, it wouldn't destabilize the ACC if it happened. That is to say that we would still not be threatened by either the B12 or the B1G.

I would say the 2 biggest threats to the ACC are the SEC & a new conference consisting of the best of the B12 & the football powers of the ACC.

SHH!

(03-02-2016 04:53 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 04:43 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If it goes to a streaming, sell direct-to-customer model... why not go independent? Schedule games YOUR fans want to pay to see, and share the revenue with no one!

1. Packaging content with favorable ovarian rd decreases elasticities, allowing the content seller to charge more.

2. Conferences are vehicles that reduce per school transaction costs (i.e. the fixed costs associated with TV negotiations can be split multiple ways).

3. Post season access (both on a conference tourney-level and a NCAA level) is better with a conference due to NCAA rules (i.e. auto bids and CCG's).

"favorable ovarian rd"? what do progesterone receptors have to do with it?

1. More than you think.

2.Ahhhh, the auto-correct demon strikes again! I meant to say "favorable co-variances."

(03-01-2016 11:05 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  At the risk of agreeing with JRsec ... if cable TV does fall apart and streaming premium (read: $$$) services online take over as the revenue driver, the SEC, which already has much of the infrastructure in place due to the SECN, would have BIG financial incentive to add FSU/GT/CU. And that's as much about donor dollars and political unification as it is demand for streaming services (particularly football). If they could square the organizational circle of a conference that big, I think they'd take Duke/UNC/NCST/UVA/VT as well for the basketball/Olympic demand. And at that point a megaconference becomes attractive.

There is no risk in being right, whether we agree or not. The Southeast is the most talent laden, most watched region in the country. Consolidation lends to leverage as we will have the most coveted sports year round at the collegiate level. And we will minimize travel and maximize fan involvement. The concept has merit but the valuations have to be ameliorated but yet remain profitable to all. Therefore if something like this is ever to happen it needs to be at once rather than in stages. There most certainly would be an intermediary stage that would be more profitable than the final whole. So proceeding in stages would prove unwise as it would likely produce major impediments and therefore leave incomplete the objective.

We are doomed! DOOOOOOOOOOMED I tell ye.......

Goofs.