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Here are the final 2015 power ratings by conference:

SEC .680
Pac-12 .653
B1G .651
Big XII .609
ACC .607
AAC .533
MAC .468
MWC .461
C-USA .418
Sun Belt .416

Difference between the AAC and the ACC: .074
Difference between the AAC and the MAC: .065

In other words, there's almost as much difference between the American Athletic Conference and the next best G5 league as there is between the AAC and the bottom of the P5. It's even further ahead of the Mountain West, and C-USA and the Sun Belt might as well be FCS leagues...

[the bar chart doesn't show up here; to see it, click on the link]

http://americanrx.blogspot.com/2016/02/f...rence.html
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dude don't egg the AAC sunshine pumpers on...
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Lol at the .002 difference between CUSA and the sun belt
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(02-26-2016 07:45 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  dude don't egg the AAC sunshine pumpers on...

I have never met someone who hates their own life as much as you do. Sad.
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if this is a computer program it has no value except in the bathroom.
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(02-26-2016 07:45 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  dude don't egg the AAC sunshine pumpers on...

Well, if tweener status was the immediate goal...then yes, this really is sunshine. I suspect all AAC schools have the goal of either individually joining the P5 or having the AAC join to make it P6. There is nothing wrong with trying to make both happen. Even if it is futile. In fact, it is smart. At least initially, it looks as if the AAC is making ground on justifying P6 inclusion. Still a long way to go but heading in that direction. Even if the public, in general, never accepts the AAC as a power conference...I can see the public accepting the AAC much the way Boise was accepted. Boise was viewed as a cut above. Now, it would mean the AAC has to sustain this separation at a minimum. Ideally, widening the gap between the G4 and narrowing the gap between the P5 needs to happen year in and year out. That can and should be the goal regardless of what neysayers think.

I doubt tweener status is/was the ultimate goal for any fan on this board.
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(02-26-2016 08:25 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  [Image: sunshine.jpg]

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(02-26-2016 06:28 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the final 2015 power ratings by conference:

SEC .680
Pac-12 .653
B1G .651
Big XII .609
ACC .607
AAC .533
MAC .468
MWC .461
C-USA .418
Sun Belt .416

Difference between the AAC and the ACC: .074
Difference between the AAC and the MAC: .065

In other words, there's almost as much difference between the American Athletic Conference and the next best G5 league as there is between the AAC and the bottom of the P5. It's even further ahead of the Mountain West, and C-USA and the Sun Belt might as well be FCS leagues...

[the bar chart doesn't show up here; to see it, click on the link]

http://americanrx.blogspot.com/2016/02/f...rence.html

This clearly shows what some have been saying for a while... theres three tiers, not 2.

The SEC, Pac 12 and Big 10 are mathematically closer, whereas the Big 12, ACC and AAC are the next tier and the the G4 rounds it out.

At a minimum, this shows that the AAC should be getting a different payout than the rest of the G4.
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(02-26-2016 10:53 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(02-26-2016 06:28 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the final 2015 power ratings by conference:

SEC .680
Pac-12 .653
B1G .651
Big XII .609
ACC .607
AAC .533
MAC .468
MWC .461
C-USA .418
Sun Belt .416

Difference between the AAC and the ACC: .074
Difference between the AAC and the MAC: .065

In other words, there's almost as much difference between the American Athletic Conference and the next best G5 league as there is between the AAC and the bottom of the P5. It's even further ahead of the Mountain West, and C-USA and the Sun Belt might as well be FCS leagues...

[the bar chart doesn't show up here; to see it, click on the link]

http://americanrx.blogspot.com/2016/02/f...rence.html

This clearly shows what some have been saying for a while... theres three tiers, not 2.

The SEC, Pac 12 and Big 10 are mathematically closer, whereas the Big 12, ACC and AAC are the next tier and the the G4 rounds it out.

Hold on there, partner!

SEC -- .027 -- Pac, B1G -- .042 -- Big XII, ACC -- .074 -- AAC -- .065 -- MAC, MWC -- .043 -- CUSA, Sun

I count 6 tiers... also, the gap between P5s is smaller than between the ACC and the AAC (sorry). As much as I like the American, let's not get ahead of ourselves!
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(02-26-2016 08:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Lol at the .002 difference between CUSA and the sun belt
The flame wars between the C-USA fans and the SBC fans are truly epic. Lots of bad blood there.
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(02-26-2016 11:05 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(02-26-2016 10:53 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(02-26-2016 06:28 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the final 2015 power ratings by conference:

SEC .680
Pac-12 .653
B1G .651
Big XII .609
ACC .607
AAC .533
MAC .468
MWC .461
C-USA .418
Sun Belt .416

Difference between the AAC and the ACC: .074
Difference between the AAC and the MAC: .065

In other words, there's almost as much difference between the American Athletic Conference and the next best G5 league as there is between the AAC and the bottom of the P5. It's even further ahead of the Mountain West, and C-USA and the Sun Belt might as well be FCS leagues...

[the bar chart doesn't show up here; to see it, click on the link]

http://americanrx.blogspot.com/2016/02/f...rence.html

This clearly shows what some have been saying for a while... theres three tiers, not 2.

The SEC, Pac 12 and Big 10 are mathematically closer, whereas the Big 12, ACC and AAC are the next tier and the the G4 rounds it out.

Hold on there, partner!

SEC -- .027 -- Pac, B1G -- .042 -- Big XII, ACC -- .074 -- AAC -- .065 -- MAC, MWC -- .043 -- CUSA, Sun

I count 6 tiers... also, the gap between P5s is smaller than between the ACC and the AAC (sorry). As much as I like the American, let's not get ahead of ourselves!

Call it what you may, but the ACC is .073 away from the SEC and the AAC is .074 from the AAC. By any metric, the ACC has as the same right to be with the SEC as the AAC has to be with the ACC.

The fact that the ACC is the arbitrary floor of P5 makes little sense especially when discussing the massive income inequality.
The B1G is .042 ahead of the Big 12. Thats a decent sized gap. The Top 3 are seperated by .049, The next three are seperated by .076 and then theres a gap of .065 before getting to the bottom tier.

As far as groupings, I think this shows that there is a significant gap between the P5s and then there is a single entity out of the G5 that is an outlier. When factoring in the income inequality and rather unfair distribution of playoff, bowl and tv money I think a fair extrapolation would be that the AAC would be much closer to the ACC/B12 grouping if all income was similar or even somewhat equal.

The numbers dont lie. With roughly 1/12th the money that the Big 12 and ACC make, we are statistically within range and definitely not equal to the other G5.

At present the playoff pays each P5 conference $50 million and then lets the G5 split $75 million amongst themselves,or roughly $14 million per conference. So just for the playoffs based off an average of 12 teams, that means a G5 makes a bit over a million and a P5 makes over $4 million.

If the P5 were to include the AAC into the group and divide the total evenly ($250 million + $14 million) then each conference would get $44 million. Again based on 12 teams, that means each would only lose about $500k and the AAC would increase their income by $36 million, giving each team an increase of over $3 million.... bowls would also pay more and tv rights would also go up afterwards.

The AAC wont be looked at like an equal and were not even asking to, but getting our income up over $10-12 million (1/2 of the ACC and Big 12) would increase our competitiveness and I guarantee you would see the gap shrink massively, making the AAC numerically equal to the ACC and Big 12.
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A scheduling coup would be to get lower seed teams from the "power" conferences to play respectable schools from the G5. Kansas, Texas Tech, Iowa State... Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota... Colorado, Washington State...

It always seems like the decent G5 teams are taking on the top tier P5, then the talking heads point to that as proof of our inferiority. Even as those same P5 teams roll past the next 8 P5 opponents on their schedule. I acquiesce that the top of most P5 leagues would beat the top of most G5 leagues, but I think the middles would be a good slug fest. And I certainly think the top 50% of the American would fair better than the middle of the pack in those leagues.
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