The ACC monster conference

ACC-South
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
Louisville
NC State

ACC-East
Wake Forest
Syracuse
Pitt
Boston College
UConn

ACC-West
Texas
Notre Dame
Houston
Oklahoma
Kansas

ACC-Atlantic
North Carolina
Duke
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech

I'd be okay with that but would be ecstatic if GT & NC State were still included.

West- Texas, Oklahoma, Houston, Louisville, Miami, WF

North- ND, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, BC, VT, NC State

South- FSU, Clemson, NC, Duke, Virginia, GT

Cross rivals:
ND-Texas
FSU-Miami
Clemson-Oklahoma
VT-Virginia
NC-NC State
WF-Duke
UL-Syracuse
BC-Houston
GT-Pittsburgh

5 division games, 1 rival & 1 from each division for 8 games.

#TeamMegaconference
Atlantic Division: UVA, VT, UNC, NCST, Duke, WF, Pitt, WVU, UofL
Coastal Division: Clemson, USC-E, UGAg, GT, TN, FSU, UF, Auburn, UK
Southeastern Division: Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, TAMU, Texas, Vandy, Miami
Plains Division: Baylor, TCU, TTU, OU, Oklahoma St, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska

Permanent Rivals:
Duke-GT, TN-VT, FSU-Miami, Clemson-NCST, UNC-SC, UofL-UK, Auburn-Alabama, Vandy-WF, Texas-OU, TAMU-TCU, Baylor-TTU, OklahomaSt-Arkansas, UVA-Mizzou, Nebraska-UGAg (Corndawgs!), UF-LSU, Pitt-KState, Ole Miss-Kansas, WVU-MissState


Out of conference football scheduling would die altogether or be nearly non-existent. The spring game is replaced with a pre-season game which does not count in the standings. This appeases existing political mandates that teams play in state FCS teams, and adds a guaranteed 7th home game that can be sold with a season ticket booklet. The death of OOC scheduling removes a lot of pain and expenditure, and maximizes conference TV inventory. The return of schedules predicated entirely upon regional opponents and historic rivals is a big boom for TV and attendance at the gate while minimizing travel costs. Four TV channels, one for each division, headquartered regionally. Atlantic: Charlotte, NC. Coastal: Atlanta, GA. Southeastern: Birmingham, AL. Plains: Dallas, TX.



The other league would be B1G + Pac-12 + UCONN + Notre Dame + Syracuse + Boston College

(02-25-2016 10:25 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The ACC monster conference

ACC-South
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
Louisville
NC State

ACC-East
Wake Forest
Syracuse
Pitt
Boston College
UConn

ACC-West
Texas
Notre Dame
Houston
Oklahoma
Kansas

ACC-Atlantic
North Carolina
Duke
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech

That's not a conference. That's an unwieldy confederation doomed to fail. No thanks.

ACC East

FSU
Clemson
Miami
Virginia
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Duke

ACC West

Texas
Oklahoma
Louisville
Wake Forrest
North Carolina State
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Boston College

If ACC went to 20 instead of 16
Add
Notre Dame
Cincinnati
UConn
West Virginia

Nice ACC Network coverage area and very strong Football & Basketball Showtime for a national audience to watch

(02-25-2016 10:25 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The ACC monster conference

ACC-South
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
Louisville
NC State

ACC-East
Wake Forest
Syracuse
Pitt
Boston College
UConn

ACC-West
Texas
Notre Dame
Houston
Oklahoma
Kansas

ACC-Atlantic
North Carolina
Duke
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech

Uh, no.

(02-26-2016 08:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  ACC East

FSU
Clemson
Miami
Virginia
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Duke

ACC West

Texas
Oklahoma
Louisville
Wake Forrest
North Carolina State
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Boston College

If ACC went to 20 instead of 16
Add
Notre Dame
Cincinnati
UConn
West Virginia

Nice ACC Network coverage area and very strong Football & Basketball Showtime for a national audience to watch

In this scenario I would replace UCONN & WV for 2 of TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma St, Kansas or Houston to compliment Texas & Oklahoma. I don't think Texas and/or Oklahoma would come without bringing some regional rivals. That's really the only advantage that the ACC has over the SEC & B1G, that we would take some of their friends to.

(02-26-2016 10:27 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 08:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  ACC East

FSU
Clemson
Miami
Virginia
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Duke

ACC West

Texas
Oklahoma
Louisville
Wake Forrest
North Carolina State
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Boston College

If ACC went to 20 instead of 16
Add
Notre Dame
Cincinnati
UConn
West Virginia

Nice ACC Network coverage area and very strong Football & Basketball Showtime for a national audience to watch

In this scenario I would replace UCONN & WV for 2 of TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma St, Kansas or Houston to compliment Texas & Oklahoma. I don't think Texas and/or Oklahoma would come without bringing some regional rivals. That's really the only advantage that the ACC has over the SEC & B1G, that we would take some of their friends to.

Actually I was originally going that route with TCU & Houston. WVU likely could wind up in the SEC . I guess You would need imput from Oklahoma & Texas as to Whom They would want in.

I proposed something similar with pods based on north, east, south and west. I think these pods would need some balancing to make them work.

Texas and Oklahoma are no-brainers. Reports have them tied to Texas Tech and Oklahoma State. However, I would rather have Baylor than TT. Kansas seems like a no-brainer and they would complete the "west" pod. However, in that scenario, I think WVU becomes an option.

In any case, there would have to be major rules changes for anything like this to work.

(02-26-2016 05:24 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  I proposed something similar with pods based on north, east, south and west. I think these pods would need some balancing to make them work.

Texas and Oklahoma are no-brainers. Reports have them tied to Texas Tech and Oklahoma State. However, I would rather have Baylor than TT. Kansas seems like a no-brainer and they would complete the "west" pod. However, in that scenario, I think WVU becomes an option.

In any case, there would have to be major rules changes for anything like this to work.

What rules changes would you need? Two pods play each other, it's exactly the same thing as a division. The only difference is that the division participants change every year or two. There isn't a rule against rotating division participants.

(02-26-2016 05:42 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 05:24 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  I proposed something similar with pods based on north, east, south and west. I think these pods would need some balancing to make them work.

Texas and Oklahoma are no-brainers. Reports have them tied to Texas Tech and Oklahoma State. However, I would rather have Baylor than TT. Kansas seems like a no-brainer and they would complete the "west" pod. However, in that scenario, I think WVU becomes an option.

In any case, there would have to be major rules changes for anything like this to work.

What rules changes would you need? Two pods play each other, it's exactly the same thing as a division. The only difference is that the division participants change every year or two. There isn't a rule against rotating division participants.

I am not aware of any rule that prohibits or allows changing divisions every year or three. I would not expand until that was resolved. I believe there is a rule that limits conferences to two divisions.

I'd like to see a rule that would allow you to have POD tournaments, possibly hosted by the pod regular season winner. Since these would be regional they should get great attendance. The pod tournament winners moving on to the ACC Tournament at a neutral site. For football your pod pairs would have a "division championship" game. The winner moves on to the ACC championship (neutral site).

The NCAA requires you play every team in your division. With 10 team divisions you would have 9 conference games. Add an OOC rival and a favorite team to play (Clemson would like to play UGA every year) and you only have 1 game to work with.

It may not be an NCAA rule but I think you would have to look at sharing travel costs. There is going to be a period where you have north east teams paired with southwest teams while the NC schools are paired with Virginia schools. It should eventually even out but it would take 6 years to complete the cycle.

Is there a rule that limits conferences to 2 divisions? i do believe the big 10 was worried about the ACC doing something thus they killed the acc proposal. Clearly the big 10 wants to pick off ACC school's but i don't believe the feeling is mutual in regards to UVA or UNC.

(02-27-2016 11:28 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Is there a rule that limits conferences to 2 divisions? i do believe the big 10 was worried about the ACC doing something thus they killed the acc proposal. Clearly the big 10 wants to pick off ACC school's but i don't believe the feeling is mutual in regards to UVA or UNC.

I don't think so but you are required to play a round robin in a division. This means that if you only have 1 division that everyone must play each other. I'm not sure if you are allowed to have more than 2 divisions.

Just a thought, could ESPN be shooting for four ten team conferences? That means 14 or 15 teams would be cut. Not good for many of us.

(02-27-2016 11:56 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(02-27-2016 11:28 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Is there a rule that limits conferences to 2 divisions? i do believe the big 10 was worried about the ACC doing something thus they killed the acc proposal. Clearly the big 10 wants to pick off ACC school's but i don't believe the feeling is mutual in regards to UVA or UNC.

I don't think so but you are required to play a round robin in a division. This means that if you only have 1 division that everyone must play each other. I'm not sure if you are allowed to have more than 2 divisions.

You're not.

(02-27-2016 01:19 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Just a thought, could ESPN be shooting for four ten team conferences? That means 14 or 15 teams would be cut. Not good for many of us.

I don't think that will cut that many. 60-64 seems like the most probable to me. Cutting more than that could set off a political firestorm, especially with the state funding being cut practically everywhere.