Quote:President Obama is expected to detail his plan Tuesday to close the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in a last-ditch effort to make good on a 2008 campaign promise.

Obama will speak at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday from the Roosevelt Room, the White House announced, saying the topic would be Guantanamo Bay but giving no further details.

Obama’s address comes as the plan to shut down the controversial facility and transfer the remaining detainees to a holding center in the United States will be delivered to Congress.

The Pentagon has recently tried to convince lawmakers to close the detention center with a draft plan to move nearly 60 detainees to a facility on the U.S. mainland that would cost as much as $475 million to build but could save roughly $180 million in annual operating costs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt1

(02-23-2016 11:21 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Quote:President Obama is expected to detail his plan Tuesday to close the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in a last-ditch effort to make good on a 2008 campaign promise.

Obama will speak at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday from the Roosevelt Room, the White House announced, saying the topic would be Guantanamo Bay but giving no further details.

Obama’s address comes as the plan to shut down the controversial facility and transfer the remaining detainees to a holding center in the United States will be delivered to Congress.

The Pentagon has recently tried to convince lawmakers to close the detention center with a draft plan to move nearly 60 detainees to a facility on the U.S. mainland that would cost as much as $475 million to build but could save roughly $180 million in annual operating costs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt1

So the Republicans should be in favor of this since it's going to save money.

Issa Compares Obama's 'Unlawful' Gitmo Closure Plan To Trail Of Tears (VIDEO)

SMH.

And Who's backyard will He move it to. I say an open air high wall prison in Alaska. Maybe under the Atlantic ocean inside a sunken ship just off Key West, Fl

I believe most of them (the actual terrorists) would be going to super-max prisons.

(02-23-2016 12:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I believe most of them (the actual terrorists) would be going to super-max prisons.

Yeah isn't there one in Colorado? Why not just send them there?

Maybe some of the inmates in the U.S. will kill them. We might save money twice.

we would like to thank the obama administration for yet another golden campaign issue. please, keep your freak on. another two or three of these, and even trump can't blow the next election.

Signed,
The Republican National Committee.

(02-23-2016 12:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Issa Compares Obama's 'Unlawful' Gitmo Closure Plan To Trail Of Tears (VIDEO)

SMH.

Why are you shaking your head? Issa is right. As it stands right now it is against US law to move Gitmo detainees to the United States. If the Obama regime does indeed move them they are breaking the law. Jackson's relocation of Native Americans was against the law. It's a legitimate comparison.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secur...lynch-says

Quote:The Obama administration is legally prohibited from bringing detainees from the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the U.S., Attorney General Loretta Lynch acknowledged on Tuesday, even as the White House searches for ways to close the facility.

“With respect to individuals being transferred to the United States, the law currently does not allow that,” Lynch told the House Judiciary Committee. “That is not, as I am aware of, going to be contemplated, given the legal prescriptions.

“Certainly it is the position of the Department of Justice that we would follow the law of the land in regard on that issue.”

(02-23-2016 12:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 12:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I believe most of them (the actual terrorists) would be going to super-max prisons.

Yeah isn't there one in Colorado? Why not just send them there?

Are You Nuts ? They would get all of the Medical Maryjane !

(02-23-2016 11:47 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 11:21 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Quote:President Obama is expected to detail his plan Tuesday to close the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in a last-ditch effort to make good on a 2008 campaign promise.

Obama will speak at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday from the Roosevelt Room, the White House announced, saying the topic would be Guantanamo Bay but giving no further details.

Obama’s address comes as the plan to shut down the controversial facility and transfer the remaining detainees to a holding center in the United States will be delivered to Congress.

The Pentagon has recently tried to convince lawmakers to close the detention center with a draft plan to move nearly 60 detainees to a facility on the U.S. mainland that would cost as much as $475 million to build but could save roughly $180 million in annual operating costs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt1

So the Republicans should be in favor of this since it's going to save money.

I doubt it would be cheaper.

(02-23-2016 02:58 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 11:47 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 11:21 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Quote:President Obama is expected to detail his plan Tuesday to close the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in a last-ditch effort to make good on a 2008 campaign promise.

Obama will speak at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday from the Roosevelt Room, the White House announced, saying the topic would be Guantanamo Bay but giving no further details.

Obama’s address comes as the plan to shut down the controversial facility and transfer the remaining detainees to a holding center in the United States will be delivered to Congress.

The Pentagon has recently tried to convince lawmakers to close the detention center with a draft plan to move nearly 60 detainees to a facility on the U.S. mainland that would cost as much as $475 million to build but could save roughly $180 million in annual operating costs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt1

So the Republicans should be in favor of this since it's going to save money.

I doubt it would be cheaper.

yep, I am trying to think of a project that the government said it would save money but it ended up costing more

(02-23-2016 11:21 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Quote:President Obama is expected to detail his plan Tuesday to close the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in a last-ditch effort to make good on a 2008 campaign promise.

Obama will speak at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday from the Roosevelt Room, the White House announced, saying the topic would be Guantanamo Bay but giving no further details.

Obama’s address comes as the plan to shut down the controversial facility and transfer the remaining detainees to a holding center in the United States will be delivered to Congress.

The Pentagon has recently tried to convince lawmakers to close the detention center with a draft plan to move nearly 60 detainees to a facility on the U.S. mainland that would cost as much as $475 million to build but could save roughly $180 million in annual operating costs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt1

How in the hell are they finding 180M dollars in ANNUAL operating costs efficiencies

(02-23-2016 01:08 PM)EagleX Wrote:  we would like to thank the obama administration for yet another golden campaign issue. please, keep your freak on. another two or three of these, and even trump can't blow the next election.

Signed,
The Republican National Committee.

that's just dayum funny....

I read it somewhere but can't remember. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has already stated he will not authorize movement of the detainees to the US because it was against congressional law. He essentially stated even if Obama asked him, he will not break the law to carry this out.

Edit: can someone help me out with a link?

(02-23-2016 04:40 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  I read it somewhere but can't remember. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has already stated he will not authorize movement of the detainees to the US because it was against congressional law. He essentially stated even if Obama asked him, he will not break the law to carry this out.

Edit: can someone help me out with a link?

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/20...ees-to-u-s

Quote:Lt. General William Mayville Jr., the director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said as much in a letter to Congress last week, which I obtained. Mayville's letter gets to the heart of a knotty constitutional issue on Guantanamo: Does President Obama have the authority to close the facility without the consent of Congress?

Writing to 16 House members who served in the military, Mayville writes: "Current law prohibits the use of funds to 'transfer, release or assist in the transfer or release' of detainees of Guantanamo Bay to or within the United States, and prohibits the construction, modification or acquisition of any facility within the United States to house any Guantanamo detainee. The Joint Staff will not take any action contrary to those restrictions."

Thanks. I knew I read it somewhere. Military leaders cannot be compelled to obey unlawful orders so I'm not sure how Obama can make him.

(02-23-2016 04:45 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  Thanks. I knew I read it somewhere. Military leaders cannot be compelled to obey unlawful orders so I'm not sure how Obama can make him.

godddammmmit.....some people get it.....that includes you kaplony......and many others....

You mean Lord Zero hasn't closed it yet? Thought he said he would back in 2008. No???

(02-23-2016 04:56 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  You mean Lord Zero hasn't closed it yet? Thought he said he would back in 2008. No???

In fairness, he did try. Not hard enough in my opinion.

He's been blocked nearly every step of the way by Congress though.