(02-22-2016 10:05 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  So we're listening to what Chris Vernon thinks now?

Vernon didn't think this, he was just talking about the idea CJP has brought up in a round about way

(02-22-2016 07:26 PM)Smith Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:50 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:47 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Define cheating.

Does Memphis have to go above and beyond what most successful DI programs do?

I mean CHEAT. Not talking about the gray area...Josh even does that. I'm talking about full blown CHEATING

They all cheat. To paraphrase Charles Barkley about the SEC, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. Shaq just admitted he was paid good at LSU. People on here said the Nichols was paid to play here. They have always cheated and always will.

Lots of truth in this post, SMith...

(02-22-2016 04:03 PM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:50 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:47 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Define cheating.

Does Memphis have to go above and beyond what most successful DI programs do?

I mean CHEAT. Not talking about the gray area...Josh even does that. I'm talking about full blown CHEATING

Full blown is not cheating, at least according to Bill Clinton.

Well played.

"Devil with the blue dress, blue dress, blue dress,
devil with the blue dress on."

(02-22-2016 04:04 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 04:04 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  I wish Josh would've clarified at his introductory presser that "no slippage" did not include the vacated seasons.

Exactly.

Funny how he never mentioned any of that until lately

(02-22-2016 05:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 05:22 PM)finch vanilla Wrote:  Did Dean Smith cheat? Does Coach K?

Duke is going to get away with it -- again. Eleven years after it used an ineligible player to reach the 1999 Final Four, Duke apparently used an ineligible player in 2010 when it won the national championship.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...lue-devils

Two words for Duke Corey Maggette

And the Carolina brand was built by Frank Maguire paying a bunch of kids to leave New York and come south.

The best part is until the last year recruiting has been good. Who did Pastner get "outbid" for? Stokes? If he'd had enough sense to know what Drew Barham was pulling maybe he'd had a scholly for him?

The whole Derrick Rose SAT thing makes me laugh anyway. Why do they even need an SAT score with these crip majors they have now?

(02-22-2016 11:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 07:26 PM)Smith Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:50 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:47 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Define cheating.

Does Memphis have to go above and beyond what most successful DI programs do?

I mean CHEAT. Not talking about the gray area...Josh even does that. I'm talking about full blown CHEATING

They all cheat. To paraphrase Charles Barkley about the SEC, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. Shaq just admitted he was paid good at LSU. People on here said the Nichols was paid to play here. They have always cheated and always will.

Lots of truth in this post, SMith...

Link on Shaq?

(02-23-2016 10:32 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 11:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 07:26 PM)Smith Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:50 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:47 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Define cheating.

Does Memphis have to go above and beyond what most successful DI programs do?

I mean CHEAT. Not talking about the gray area...Josh even does that. I'm talking about full blown CHEATING

They all cheat. To paraphrase Charles Barkley about the SEC, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. Shaq just admitted he was paid good at LSU. People on here said the Nichols was paid to play here. They have always cheated and always will.

Lots of truth in this post, SMith...

Link on Shaq?

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/shaquill...-very-well

(02-23-2016 10:30 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 05:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 05:22 PM)finch vanilla Wrote:  Did Dean Smith cheat? Does Coach K?

Duke is going to get away with it -- again. Eleven years after it used an ineligible player to reach the 1999 Final Four, Duke apparently used an ineligible player in 2010 when it won the national championship.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...lue-devils

Who did Pastner get "outbid" for? Stokes?

Tony Parker & Alex Poythress

We should do a class for the ill informed

(02-23-2016 10:38 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  We should do a class for the ill informed

Professor Easterwood has a nice ring to it.

(02-23-2016 10:36 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 10:30 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 05:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 05:22 PM)finch vanilla Wrote:  Did Dean Smith cheat? Does Coach K?

Duke is going to get away with it -- again. Eleven years after it used an ineligible player to reach the 1999 Final Four, Duke apparently used an ineligible player in 2010 when it won the national championship.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...lue-devils

Who did Pastner get "outbid" for? Stokes?

Tony Parker & Alex Poythress

He shoulda known who to try and get. Parker and Shaq ex each other out doe


Travis

(02-23-2016 10:38 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  We should do a class for the ill informed

It's hard to teach the naive

Butler, VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, San Diego State. All non-P5 programs that have won big recently. If they can do it than I suppose we can too right?


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(02-22-2016 03:45 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  A) Do we have to cheat in order to meet the expectations (Sweet 16 every 4-5 years)

B) Are expectations too high - because almost half of the time we've made the Sweet 16, we've cheated to get there.

Vernon was talking about this today...curious?

(02-23-2016 10:55 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:45 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  A) Do we have to cheat in order to meet the expectations (Sweet 16 every 4-5 years)

B) Are expectations too high - because almost half of the time we've made the Sweet 16, we've cheated to get there.

Vernon was talking about this today...curious?

Right on cue. Mr Hater of all things

(02-23-2016 10:46 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 10:38 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  We should do a class for the ill informed

It's hard to teach the naive

Proverbs 14:18

The simple inherit folly, but the prudent are crowned with knowledge.

(02-23-2016 10:59 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 10:46 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 10:38 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  We should do a class for the ill informed

It's hard to teach the naive

Proverbs 14:18

The simple inherit folly, but the prudent are crowned with knowledge.

You're gonna run Whitey, BWJ and Fry off with that dogma

How is strict liability cheating exactly?

(02-23-2016 10:55 AM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  Butler, VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, San Diego State. All non-P5 programs that have won big recently. If they can do it than I suppose we can too right?


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I'm pretty cynical, but from what I have seen, anyone who wins big(or recruits big) "cheats" to some extent. I have accepted it and lost some love of college sports because of it. Still, College Sports > Pro Sports