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RE: Baseball: Week of 2/22-2/28
(02-29-2016 11:41 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  
(02-29-2016 03:41 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(02-29-2016 10:54 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(02-29-2016 09:30 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(02-28-2016 05:58 PM)usm99 Wrote:  USM is in the midst of a stretch where 16 of (what should have been) 17 are games vs teams from Louisiana or Alabama. I say what should have been as the ULM game which would've been game 1 of this stretch was postponed due to rain. The only non-Alabama/Louisiana opponent is next Friday's matchup vs Michigan St in a neutral site tournament in Pensacola.

If you can't get any tournament invites or any other power teams (yes, I still say C-USA has some "power teams") to campus then this is exactly how you should schedule baseball games, IMO.

Why run up a huge budget when there are games, with GOOD opponents, available right in your own backyard?


Not necessarily arguing, but I don't know of too many people who wouldn't say that Berry pulled a Cohen and scheduled a bunch of cupcakes to inflate his record and hopefully get us into a regional.

To me, "pulling a Cohen" would insinuate we schedules 15 games against teams like Eastern Illinois and only a few against southern based teams. So far, 14 of the 16 games against Alabama/Louisiana teams have an RPI in top 100. The only 2 that don't are Auburn (236) and UL-Monroe (184).


Please don't look at the RPI right now. But no....we are not "pulling a Cohen."

Berry is loading the school with average teams. We play THREE games until the Rice series in late April against teams that made the NCAA tournament last year....THREE (and one of those is Auburn who won't be a tourney team this year and the other two are midweek games).

What happened to the ULL series? The Troy series? Why can't we get some good Big 10 teams down here for weekday games in February? Why aren't we playing Memphis? Rice got ECU and UCF on their schedule? Why aren't we playing any of our former conference mates? Tulane can play Pepperdine every year, play a tourney in San Diego, and get Illinois to come down for a three-game set on top of playing an almost identical midweek schedule?

C-USA is not good enough anymore to carry our SOS. We have got to start playing some good teams. It is better for our RPI and for our team in the long run.


We aren't playing the worst teams ever, but he surely didn't try to schedule great competition.

And I completely agree. Plenty of northern schools want to come down early in the year. We could get some great weekend series, but it's like we avoid them. We dropped the LSU game in New Orleans last year and it's not here again. It's like Berry is actively trying to lighten our OOC to inflate our schedule. And that, my friends, is pulling a Cohen. It's not to the extent he did it, but it's still pretty frustrating to know that we can wreck OOC and be left out to dry because the teams are so bad.
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RE: Baseball: Week of 2/22-2/28
Now that Berry is winning again we have to have something to gripe about, don't we?
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RE: Baseball: Week of 2/22-2/28
(03-01-2016 02:14 AM)Eaglenjxn Wrote:  C-USA is not good enough anymore to carry our SOS. We have got to start playing some good teams. It is better for our RPI and for our team in the long run.

I'd dispute this statement right now...

In fact but 2015 (IMO) was an aberration: of our 12 teams, 6 had RPI's below 100; 6 with losing records. (Heck, ODU just had a bad break/turn where they went from a 42 RPI in 2014 to 110 in 2015).

Heck, we've only had one season where the majority of our conference isn't in the top 100, (or even 75/50) and carrying winning seasons. (2013)

Again, it's still early (so don't take this as a slam) but if anything, look at Marshall.. They've been here for a while and really only have 2010 to their name as a decent season.

So before we start saying C-USA is "watering down" our SOS/RPI... ehh.. not so much. (although La Tech and Charlotte need to step it up!)

Do I think we should get some big-name schools to come down? Sure.. do they want to? That's the question. It's a two-way street.
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I wanna say that I didn't say that, so not sure how I was quoted.

With that said, I still remember consistently getting 4-5 teams in regionals every year in the late 2000s. We need to get back to that.
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oops.. sorry EagNBran.. i cut the wrong "quote" tag. But sure it'd be nice to get 4 or 5 in, and some years you could have argued we deserved more than we got.. and some years we didn't.
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(03-01-2016 09:55 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(03-01-2016 02:14 AM)Eaglenjxn Wrote:  C-USA is not good enough anymore to carry our SOS. We have got to start playing some good teams. It is better for our RPI and for our team in the long run.

I'd dispute this statement right now...

In fact but 2015 (IMO) was an aberration: of our 12 teams, 6 had RPI's below 100; 6 with losing records. (Heck, ODU just had a bad break/turn where they went from a 42 RPI in 2014 to 110 in 2015).

Heck, we've only had one season where the majority of our conference isn't in the top 100, (or even 75/50) and carrying winning seasons. (2013)

Again, it's still early (so don't take this as a slam) but if anything, look at Marshall.. They've been here for a while and really only have 2010 to their name as a decent season.

So before we start saying C-USA is "watering down" our SOS/RPI... ehh.. not so much. (although La Tech and Charlotte need to step it up!)
Do I think we should get some big-name schools to come down? Sure.. do they want to? That's the question. It's a two-way street.

Charlotte already is. 05-nono You'll see. 05-stirthepot
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(03-01-2016 02:14 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  And that, my friends, is pulling a Cohen. It's not to the extent he did it, but it's still pretty frustrating to know that we can wreck OOC and be left out to dry because the teams are so bad.

Didn't Cohen take MSU to the National Championship series?

Just saying. I don't care who we play in the regular season, so long as we win and get to the post season.
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RE: Baseball: Week of 2/22-2/28
(03-01-2016 09:55 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(03-01-2016 02:14 AM)Eaglenjxn Wrote:  C-USA is not good enough anymore to carry our SOS. We have got to start playing some good teams. It is better for our RPI and for our team in the long run.

I'd dispute this statement right now...

In fact but 2015 (IMO) was an aberration: of our 12 teams, 6 had RPI's below 100; 6 with losing records. (Heck, ODU just had a bad break/turn where they went from a 42 RPI in 2014 to 110 in 2015).

Heck, we've only had one season where the majority of our conference isn't in the top 100, (or even 75/50) and carrying winning seasons. (2013)

Again, it's still early (so don't take this as a slam) but if anything, look at Marshall.. They've been here for a while and really only have 2010 to their name as a decent season.

So before we start saying C-USA is "watering down" our SOS/RPI... ehh.. not so much. (although La Tech and Charlotte need to step it up!)

Do I think we should get some big-name schools to come down? Sure.. do they want to? That's the question. It's a two-way street.

You're completely misinterpreting what I said. I never said C-USA was dragging our RPI down. I said that we can't count on C-USA to carry our SOS [to a respectable number].

Last year was, IMO, a much better year than 2014. The conference still finished 8th (as it did the year before) but we had two top 50 teams (one the previous year), another on the border (58), and #70. Our top 100 teams were much more solidly inside the top 100 than 2014 when we had the #91, #99, and #100 teams.
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(03-01-2016 10:46 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  
(03-01-2016 02:14 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  And that, my friends, is pulling a Cohen. It's not to the extent he did it, but it's still pretty frustrating to know that we can wreck OOC and be left out to dry because the teams are so bad.

Didn't Cohen take MSU to the National Championship series?

Just saying. I don't care who we play in the regular season, so long as we win and get to the post season.

....which in baseball hinges on who you play.

SEC teams can get away with garbage OOC schedules. We can't. Even though they can get away with it, take a look at Ole Miss....who played a brutal OOC schedule last year.
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Cohen typically schedules almost all OOC games at home. They finally stepped out this year and are playing in the tournament this weekend at Dodger Stadium against UCLA, USC and Oklahoma. I fully expect them to go 1-2 in that tournament. Other than that, they basically play every game either at home or at a neutral site, except for their road SEC games.
Last year they started out like 14-0, but every game was played at home. When they finally started playing away from home they went in the crapper and finished something like 26-30 (which leads to the question, why the hell are they ranked this season?!). One year, may have been last season, they played like 18 straight home games. It is ridiculous they can get away with that and are rewarded for it!!
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(03-01-2016 10:27 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  
(03-01-2016 09:55 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(03-01-2016 02:14 AM)Eaglenjxn Wrote:  C-USA is not good enough anymore to carry our SOS. We have got to start playing some good teams. It is better for our RPI and for our team in the long run.

I'd dispute this statement right now...

In fact but 2015 (IMO) was an aberration: of our 12 teams, 6 had RPI's below 100; 6 with losing records. (Heck, ODU just had a bad break/turn where they went from a 42 RPI in 2014 to 110 in 2015).

Heck, we've only had one season where the majority of our conference isn't in the top 100, (or even 75/50) and carrying winning seasons. (2013)

Again, it's still early (so don't take this as a slam) but if anything, look at Marshall.. They've been here for a while and really only have 2010 to their name as a decent season.

So before we start saying C-USA is "watering down" our SOS/RPI... ehh.. not so much. (although La Tech and Charlotte need to step it up!)
Do I think we should get some big-name schools to come down? Sure.. do they want to? That's the question. It's a two-way street.

Charlotte already is. 05-nono You'll see. 05-stirthepot

This team is probably the best we've had since we came back. We are getting better but we are not holding the conference back as for a scheduling. We had the 3rd toughest Strength of Schedule last year.

Florida Atlantic 28
Rice 48
Charlotte 61
Old Dominion 67
UAB 68
Western Kentucky 72
UTSA 74
Middle Tennessee 83
FIU 98
Southern Miss 106
Louisiana Tech 110
Marshall 135
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(03-01-2016 02:57 PM)EaglehasLanded Wrote:  Cohen typically schedules almost all OOC games at home. They finally stepped out this year and are playing in the tournament this weekend at Dodger Stadium against UCLA, USC and Oklahoma. I fully expect them to go 1-2 in that tournament. Other than that, they basically play every game either at home or at a neutral site, except for their road SEC games.
Last year they started out like 14-0, but every game was played at home. When they finally started playing away from home they went in the crapper and finished something like 26-30 (which leads to the question, why the hell are they ranked this season?!). One year, may have been last season, they played like 18 straight home games. It is ridiculous they can get away with that and are rewarded for it!!

Yeah, I think they played one true road OOC games (at USA, I believe) last year and none the year before.

Cohen's other weird deal is that he HATES midweek games during conference season.....so he tries to schedule tournaments in Starkville or series where he can get four games.

Why were they ranked? I think because writers and scouts were blowing their loads about how many pitchers they have with a lot of velocity. Writers are enamored with Dakota Hudson....who may prove to be that good this year but hasn't proven a damn thing at the college level.
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(03-02-2016 01:05 AM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  
(03-01-2016 02:57 PM)EaglehasLanded Wrote:  Cohen typically schedules almost all OOC games at home. They finally stepped out this year and are playing in the tournament this weekend at Dodger Stadium against UCLA, USC and Oklahoma. I fully expect them to go 1-2 in that tournament. Other than that, they basically play every game either at home or at a neutral site, except for their road SEC games.
Last year they started out like 14-0, but every game was played at home. When they finally started playing away from home they went in the crapper and finished something like 26-30 (which leads to the question, why the hell are they ranked this season?!). One year, may have been last season, they played like 18 straight home games. It is ridiculous they can get away with that and are rewarded for it!!

Yeah, I think they played one true road OOC games (at USA, I believe) last year and none the year before.

Cohen's other weird deal is that he HATES midweek games during conference season.....so he tries to schedule tournaments in Starkville or series where he can get four games.

Why were they ranked? I think because writers and scouts were blowing their loads about how many pitchers they have with a lot of velocity. Writers are enamored with Dakota Hudson....who may prove to be that good this year but hasn't proven a damn thing at the college level.

I really hope they get their ass kicked this weekend! I saw where they took on a tough Alcorn St. team last night...talking about padding your record, other than FAU, they have played nothing but sure wins.

I get that teams can improve from one season to the next, and that analyst can look at a team and be like they sucked last year but return a lot of players and added some new pieces to the puzzle. But starting them ranked at #15 is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. If they weren't in the SEC, they wouldn't even be considered for the Top 25/30.
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