best possible counter punch for the Big12 is to stand pat, add the title game, and reap the revenue generated by it...

(02-24-2016 10:03 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(02-24-2016 09:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-24-2016 08:44 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 11:40 AM)Maize Wrote:  And no doubt the ACC probably faces the same issue...from the article:

The Big 12's average payout to its full-sharing members in 2014-15 was $23.3 million, which was $9.4 million less than what SEC schools received from their conference.

The latest Big 12 tax return provided Wednesday to CBS Sports reflects the growing gap between the SEC and Big Ten compared to every other major conference. Not long ago, the SEC and Big 12 provided nearly identical payouts to their schools, past tax records show.

In 2012-13, the Big 12 distributed about $20.9 million to full-sharing members compared to the SEC's $20.8 million payout. The Big 12 distributed slightly more money in 2013-14 ($21.2 million) than the SEC ($21 million). But the first year of the SEC Network and new College Football Playoff deals shows the significant difference between the SEC and Big 12. (The Big Ten's latest financial records won't be released until the spring.)

While the Big 12 had no teams in the inaugural playoff, the SEC had one that was worth $6 million to the conference. In addition, the SEC put two teams into contracted CFP bowls that provided additional revenue.

Also, the SEC Network started printing millions of dollars for the SEC -- a revenue source that the Big 12 as a whole doesn't have. Individual Big 12 schools make additional money through third-tier media rights that aren't reflected in the Big 12 tax form. For instance, Texas reportedly received about $15 million from the Longhorn Network, and Kansas got more than $6 million and Kansas State about $4 million from their third-tier rights.

Even when factoring in these rights, most Big 12 schools are seeing a growing gap with SEC schools in revenue. The SEC pools third-tier TV rights together for the SEC Network. But SEC schools still have their own multi-media rights contracts not factored into their conference payout. For instance, Kentucky gets approximately $14 million per year from JMI Sports, and Alabama receives about $15 to $16 million annually from Learfield Sports.

“We're going to do everything we can to compete,” Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said about the growing gap. “That would certainly include financially.”

The Big 12 has been exploring expansion, a football conference championship game and a TV network potential bundled together with the Longhorn Network in an effort to generate more money. But the big question is what schools are available that would substantially increase the league's television rights value. Oklahoma president David Boren, who is pushing for expansion, told The Oklahoman this week that Big 12 presidents have agreed they need to decide by this summer whether to expand, create a championship game and/or start a network.


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...in-2014-15

all that says to me is that the Big 12 should just keep playing their round-robin schedule...start a champ game, get the 20 million or so that comes with it, and focus on putting teams in the playoff...that'll get that 23.3 million number up some.

plus, you can't forget those 3rd tier rights monies for the Big 12

I bet they expand...but not for several years IMHO.

Actually its higher, $25.2. CBS isn't picking up the right numbers from the tax return.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...one-by-sec

The Big 12 posted record revenue distribution and an increase of 14.5 percent from 2014 — and still found itself overtaken and overshadowed Friday.

Early in the day, word had leaked that the Southeastern Conference would announce monster financial numbers. It did: $31.2 million to its 14 members at $455.8 million total. The Big 12 average was $25.2 million for 10 schools.

Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby conceded the SEC’s success, fueled by the start of the SEC Network last summer. Twelve months earlier, the Big 12 average share was $22 million to $20.9 for the SEC.

“I think it’s proof positive that networks are good,” Bowlsby said.

Even with the SEC Network turning into a virtual ATM for its schools, Big 12 officials say they like where they stand.

“I think we’re in a very good spot financially,” said Oklahoma State president Burns Hargis, the chairman of the conference’s board of directors. “The disparity I don’t think is near what that looks like. As long as our student athletes are getting the facilities and the academic support and the full cost of attendance dollars, I think we’ll be able to compete just fine.

“And I don’t think our fans will question that.”

Bowlsby noted the Big 12 is expected to make a similar-sized jump in revenue next year and eventually top out at about $44 million per school before its current TV contracts end in 2024-25.

That's not really an apples to apples comparison though is it?

I'm assuming the $25.2M doesn't include tier 3 revenue for the Big12.

Tier 3: For Texas, add $15M. For OU, add $2M. For all others, add $117.28

(02-22-2016 03:36 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 01:22 PM)GTTiger Wrote:  Let's face it...

It's the Big 2, not he Power 5.

The Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC are all scrambling to try and find ways to try and stay in the ballpark of the Big 2.

Wake me when the SEC and Big 10 are 2 conferences of 32 teams.

It's not lost on me that with $21M in Big 12 distribution, UT actually makes $36M per year. It's not hurting compared to the SEC or Big 10. It makes MORE than schools in those leagues.

That said, the rise of the SEC Network combined with the new Big 10 rights package being negotiated right now will put tremendous pressure on the other 3 leagues.

It will be interesting to see how they react.

Only the Pac 12 is insulated geographically from poaching. As a result, the most likely outcome is three super conferences of 20-24 teams each: SEC, Big 10 and Pac 12.

Oh BTW, three super conferences of 20-24 teams have more bargaining power with the networks than six power conferences of 10-12 teams. Thus the reason for the consolidation.

I see the PAC 12 as the odd man out...I don't know who they could add...

If the ACC and Big XII powers got together along with Notre Dame, they could easily be a top conference