I agree. No to the alma mater guy argument, that UT fans used this past year, and Michigan actually used a few years back, both in football. Just... no.

(02-25-2018 11:16 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 11:12 PM)herkermer Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 11:07 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:10 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:59 AM)macphil30 Wrote:  I don't understand all the push back against Penny. Yes, it could end bad but it could end bad for anyone. Look at Josh. I say he knows coaching, and bet he'd have a top notch staff beside him. If he wants it give it to him, and let him deal with the consequences.

The consequences ARE the issue. No one wants to put that on him, straining his relationship with the U of M if things go bad. It's not as simple as "let him figure it out if it doesn't work."

I am with macphil30, give it to Penny and let him deal with the consequences.

Interesting thread.

When did KE get the banhammer? Did I miss anything good?

He got pwned by Terry Tate.

Deserved it, too.

He was being a real dick.

I wish they would make me a mod, I would ban the rest of his and bluto's aliases.

Yeah. He was throwing around homophobic slurs at mods apparently.

**** that trash.

(02-25-2018 11:11 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 09:39 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  Most proven head coaches came up through the ranks

ALL PROVEN head coaches come up through the ranks.

How else do they get proven?

LOL.

Guru.

Y'all keep listening to people like him and we might crack the NIT next year.

You mean like we probably will with Tubby?

R u KORAZZZIE, we need to hire Penny. Hire him as Tubby assistant with understanding he is coach in waiting.
Penny will recruit Memphis and be a great Coach and Tubby is a good Teacher

(02-26-2018 02:36 PM)memphisike Wrote:  R u KORAZZZIE, we need to hire Penny. Hire him as Tubby assistant with understanding he is coach in waiting.
Penny will recruit Memphis and be a great Coach and Tubby is a good Teacher

Axe Tubby if he good wif it.

(04-12-2016 10:48 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:37 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:39 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  From Jason @ the CA this morning: "I think Tigers legend Penny Hardaway is in play. I don't know where he ranks on Memphis' list, but I believe he's one of the guys the U of M at least began this search considering. I had a former Tiger call me yesterday and endorse Hardaway for the job. That player was Keith Lee, who's been interested in landing a gig at Memphis for years now. Lee told me even if Hardaway got the job and didn't give him a gig, he still wanted Hardaway to get it. He wants a Memphis guy in that spot because he feels like that's part of what's been missing from the program -- guys who bleed blue. I imagine there's many others who support his view."

Love this.

I love Penny, but don't want him as the head coach. I don't think that he is ready to deal with the job. It is a job for which he is unprepared.

Playing a game and coaching a game are two different things. Even the players that become coaches take years to learn the craft of coaching before they can be successful at a major level.

This fascination with players jumping into major coaching roles is just silly. Hard work, experience and learning are the keys to success in any job. Penny worked years to develop as a player. He hasn't been able to work years a honing the craft of coaching.

Just let this soak in a minute. Keith Lee endorsing Penny. You are talking about the two of the best basketball IQs ever to put on a Tiger uniform.

Penny's time in the NBA equals five years assistant coaching. Bringing in Keith as a big man coach, we've never had anything near that level.

The administration probably won't pull the trigger and there will be less fans in the stands next year.

Maybe Mr Easterwood is right about Forbes...I haven't seen an offer.

(02-20-2016 09:27 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  It will not end well

The worst thread title ever.

And the post isn’t great either. Since nobody knows how it would turn out.

Larry Brown was on with Jason and John today... he said “tubby is a damn good coach”. He also said he was “hoping Penny had gotten the Memphis job this last time”
Thats a pretty damn good endorsement.

(02-26-2018 04:09 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:48 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:37 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:39 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  From Jason @ the CA this morning: "I think Tigers legend Penny Hardaway is in play. I don't know where he ranks on Memphis' list, but I believe he's one of the guys the U of M at least began this search considering. I had a former Tiger call me yesterday and endorse Hardaway for the job. That player was Keith Lee, who's been interested in landing a gig at Memphis for years now. Lee told me even if Hardaway got the job and didn't give him a gig, he still wanted Hardaway to get it. He wants a Memphis guy in that spot because he feels like that's part of what's been missing from the program -- guys who bleed blue. I imagine there's many others who support his view."

Love this.

I love Penny, but don't want him as the head coach. I don't think that he is ready to deal with the job. It is a job for which he is unprepared.

Playing a game and coaching a game are two different things. Even the players that become coaches take years to learn the craft of coaching before they can be successful at a major level.

This fascination with players jumping into major coaching roles is just silly. Hard work, experience and learning are the keys to success in any job. Penny worked years to develop as a player. He hasn't been able to work years a honing the craft of coaching.

. Bringing in Keith as a big man coach, we've never had anything near that level.

no we haven't.......

dear god, have you people gone full retard?

I love how everyone keeps saying 'hire Penny as an assistant'. Penny has had that opportunity presented to him multiple times, hasn't he? If he doesn't want anything but head coach, I'm not sure how you can make hiring him work at this time. You can't fire Tubby because he hasn't signed enough recruits, yet. I know its frustrating that we don't have any help on the horizon, but we would be the laughingstock of the country if we fire a guy who (potentially) won 20 games with a bunch of JUCO transfers and freshmen. Plus, you have this NCAA investigation looming over college basketball. I really believe another university might want to hire a guy like Tubby to clean up their image after their coach gets axed. Its a real possibility. Then we can start arguing between Penny and Forbes all day long.

(02-26-2018 06:14 PM)herkermer Wrote:  Larry Brown was on with Jason and John today... he said “tubby is a damn good coach”. He also said he was “hoping Penny had gotten the Memphis job this last time”
Thats a pretty damn good endorsement.

The trouble with coaches is they tend to be complementary of one another unless they are in trouble with the NCAA for obvious violations. Heard any coaches saying bad things about Pitino in public? They just don't disparage the other coaches. They leave that to the talking heads and the fans.

But Tubby is exactly what he has been for pretty much his entire career. What we need is more than a good coach. We need a coach who will be the catalyst to make happen all the things necessary to bring us back to national prominence. You can't usually win championships coaching up okay players, you have to get a share of the top prospects and that will never happen with Tubby. Not in his play book.

(02-27-2018 09:31 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 04:09 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:48 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:37 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:39 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  From Jason @ the CA this morning: "I think Tigers legend Penny Hardaway is in play. I don't know where he ranks on Memphis' list, but I believe he's one of the guys the U of M at least began this search considering. I had a former Tiger call me yesterday and endorse Hardaway for the job. That player was Keith Lee, who's been interested in landing a gig at Memphis for years now. Lee told me even if Hardaway got the job and didn't give him a gig, he still wanted Hardaway to get it. He wants a Memphis guy in that spot because he feels like that's part of what's been missing from the program -- guys who bleed blue. I imagine there's many others who support his view."

Love this.

I love Penny, but don't want him as the head coach. I don't think that he is ready to deal with the job. It is a job for which he is unprepared.

Playing a game and coaching a game are two different things. Even the players that become coaches take years to learn the craft of coaching before they can be successful at a major level.

This fascination with players jumping into major coaching roles is just silly. Hard work, experience and learning are the keys to success in any job. Penny worked years to develop as a player. He hasn't been able to work years a honing the craft of coaching.

. Bringing in Keith as a big man coach, we've never had anything near that level.

no we haven't.......

dear god, have you people gone full retard?

No.

Penny would bring in the same program Cal left with. If that is what you would like to see here, then Penny is your coach. If you want to see less hyped recruits, but more of a stable program player-wise, then Tubby is the better choice. Both coaches would succeed here, IMO. I think Tubby CAN build a winning program, AND I think Penny can win here too. It's just 2 different philosophies on how to do it.

(04-12-2016 10:48 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:37 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:39 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  From Jason @ the CA this morning: "I think Tigers legend Penny Hardaway is in play. I don't know where he ranks on Memphis' list, but I believe he's one of the guys the U of M at least began this search considering. I had a former Tiger call me yesterday and endorse Hardaway for the job. That player was Keith Lee, who's been interested in landing a gig at Memphis for years now. Lee told me even if Hardaway got the job and didn't give him a gig, he still wanted Hardaway to get it. He wants a Memphis guy in that spot because he feels like that's part of what's been missing from the program -- guys who bleed blue. I imagine there's many others who support his view."

Love this.

I love Penny, but don't want him as the head coach. I don't think that he is ready to deal with the job. It is a job for which he is unprepared.

Playing a game and coaching a game are two different things. Even the players that become coaches take years to learn the craft of coaching before they can be successful at a major level.

This fascination with players jumping into major coaching roles is just silly. Hard work, experience and learning are the keys to success in any job. Penny worked years to develop as a player. He hasn't been able to work years a honing the craft of coaching.

So when Penny's teams win State, and win AAU tournaments, do you think that's the player or the coach?

(02-27-2018 09:53 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 06:14 PM)herkermer Wrote:  Larry Brown was on with Jason and John today... he said “tubby is a damn good coach”. He also said he was “hoping Penny had gotten the Memphis job this last time”
Thats a pretty damn good endorsement.

The trouble with coaches is they tend to be complementary of one another unless they are in trouble with the NCAA for obvious violations. Heard any coaches saying bad things about Pitino in public? They just don't disparage the other coaches. They leave that to the talking heads and the fans.

But Tubby is exactly what he has been for pretty much his entire career. What we need is more than a good coach. We need a coach who will be the catalyst to make happen all the things necessary to bring us back to national prominence. You can't usually win championships coaching up okay players, you have to get a share of the top prospects and that will never happen with Tubby. Not in his play book.

These points are VERY good, What else is expected of another HOF coach speaking on the behalf of another HOF coach...But that endorsement of Penny for HC is astronomical from HOF coach perspective.

Problem with Tubby, it's going to take a stroke of LUCK to make a deep tourney run, based off of the players that he recruits(wants to coach). Couple with that, Tubby wasn't doing much coaching until recently(He was rather lethargic).

Perfect scenario would be Penny on staff as HCIW (filtering in players). Since Tubby doesn't realize what the best possible scenario for the success of Memphis BB is....Regardless of his coaching abilities/accumen, he is the improper fit...If he doesn't want to WIN EVERY game...He is the wrong fit....And I'm sure he doesn't suit up to lose....But he has stated publicly, that OUR expectations for THIS program are a pipe dream ....So,obviously he doesn't see the potential or is NOT on the same page....We expect him to want to exceed the successes that we've had....NOT just hover somewhere around the meridian

(02-27-2018 09:31 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 04:09 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:48 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:37 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:39 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  From Jason @ the CA this morning: "I think Tigers legend Penny Hardaway is in play. I don't know where he ranks on Memphis' list, but I believe he's one of the guys the U of M at least began this search considering. I had a former Tiger call me yesterday and endorse Hardaway for the job. That player was Keith Lee, who's been interested in landing a gig at Memphis for years now. Lee told me even if Hardaway got the job and didn't give him a gig, he still wanted Hardaway to get it. He wants a Memphis guy in that spot because he feels like that's part of what's been missing from the program -- guys who bleed blue. I imagine there's many others who support his view."

Love this.

I love Penny, but don't want him as the head coach. I don't think that he is ready to deal with the job. It is a job for which he is unprepared.

Playing a game and coaching a game are two different things. Even the players that become coaches take years to learn the craft of coaching before they can be successful at a major level.

This fascination with players jumping into major coaching roles is just silly. Hard work, experience and learning are the keys to success in any job. Penny worked years to develop as a player. He hasn't been able to work years a honing the craft of coaching.

. Bringing in Keith as a big man coach, we've never had anything near that level.

no we haven't.......

dear god, have you people gone full retard?

What are you saying?

(02-27-2018 09:53 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 06:14 PM)herkermer Wrote:  Larry Brown was on with Jason and John today... he said “tubby is a damn good coach”. He also said he was “hoping Penny had gotten the Memphis job this last time”
Thats a pretty damn good endorsement.

The trouble with coaches is they tend to be complementary of one another unless they are in trouble with the NCAA for obvious violations. Heard any coaches saying bad things about Pitino in public? They just don't disparage the other coaches. They leave that to the talking heads and the fans.

But Tubby is exactly what he has been for pretty much his entire career. What we need is more than a good coach. We need a coach who will be the catalyst to make happen all the things necessary to bring us back to national prominence. You can't usually win championships coaching up okay players, you have to get a share of the top prospects and that will never happen with Tubby. Not in his play book.

Nailed it

(02-27-2018 09:41 AM)WColt45 Wrote:  I love how everyone keeps saying 'hire Penny as an assistant'. Penny has had that opportunity presented to him multiple times, hasn't he? If he doesn't want anything but head coach, I'm not sure how you can make hiring him work at this time. You can't fire Tubby because he hasn't signed enough recruits, yet. I know its frustrating that we don't have any help on the horizon, but we would be the laughingstock of the country if we fire a guy who (potentially) won 20 games with a bunch of JUCO transfers and freshmen. Plus, you have this NCAA investigation looming over college basketball. I really believe another university might want to hire a guy like Tubby to clean up their image after their coach gets axed. Its a real possibility. Then we can start arguing between Penny and Forbes all day long.

Forbes will be gone.

I think Penny would be Josh Pastner 2.0