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RE: Decisions, Decisions, It's Why Anything Could Still Happen!
(02-25-2016 01:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-25-2016 12:33 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(02-23-2016 10:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  As for the Big 10 not finding football value in Kansas and Connecticut how is that any different from Duke, Virginia and North Carolina? Or, Syracuse, Boston College?

Actually, I think it would be different in the case of UNC, Duke, or UVA.

They aren't football powers by any means, but Kansas is hapless in the sport. The other 3 do at least try to be competitive in their league while KU does not really support the program. That and the markets are very different. The recruiting opportunities are very different as well. There's a good bit of talent in NC and VA so if they ever decided to pony up and build great programs they have the ability to do it.

With UConn, they haven't even been playing D1 for 20 years yet. It's another program devoid of local talent and the B1G already has a presence in NYC whereas they don't in VA and NC.

I'm just basing my comment off the idea that the B1G needs football content with their current lack of brand power. Schools like OU and VT could help immediately. KU and UConn could actually regress the mean in the B1G's case. I'm not saying they wouldn't take them, but I just don't know that they would.

Okay! Now the reasoning you are using is exactly why I've never believed H1 or Nebraskafan or the twitter guys about OU & KU to the Big 10. Kansas adds nothing they don't already have. Great basketball? The Big 10 has it and has it with depth. Kansas viewing markets? The Big 10 already has those, just not at the increased rate but is a simple rate boost worth it for 3 million people when you can get double to triple that out of North Carolina or Virginia?

Oklahoma would be an academic outlier, a very small state, and the only Big 10 school they truly compliment is Nebraska.

Delany said they would look East. Who do we believe Delany or message board posters with an agenda to troll?

Now the reason I posed the question using the schools that I did is because N.C. State and Virginia Tech are closer to the profile of Big 10 schools than are UVa & UNC. Sure they lack the AAU status but they are more competitive in football, have larger campuses and larger graduating classes than their snootier counterparts, and they fill a Big 10 need. Virginia and North Carolina meet an SEC need for hoops. Virginia and North Carolina love their baseball too and in the SEC that sport would flourish, their football would be no worse than now, and their hoops would be elite with Kentucky added to their mix.

Now I'm not saying we get any of those or that any will move to the Big 10 or SEC, but they make a lot more sense for the Big 10, especially N.C. State and Virginia Tech.

So yeah there is still a lot to be worked out before we consolidate further.

Your thought on Kansas makes a lot of sense.

Hypothetically speaking, let's say OU is either not an option or not truly interested in the B1G. If they can partner with OSU and UT and head to the SEC then that would appear to be their best option. So let's say in that same vein that KU is not really an option for the B1G for the reasons you stated. Let's also assume for a moment that the ACC is willing to make a few out of the box moves to cement a new network and their long term future. Could all that make it easier for the SEC and ACC to team up and take apart the Big 12?

Let's say the SEC takes Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia. The dynamics of the first 3 are obvious, but the issues with WVU and the ACC still remain. There is actually a more compelling reason though for the ACC to ignore WVU in exchange for other schools...the market. What does WVU bring you outside of its home state? 1) A slice of Western PA which the ACC already has with Pitt. 2) A slice of MD and Metro DC which the ACC already has with UVA and VT. Taking for granted that we do move to a more content based model in the future, is it still profitable for the ACC to take WVU? I'm not sure. They may actually be more valuable to the SEC if the ACC remains for the long haul and the 2 conferences form an alliance.

Now what does the ACC do to help divvy up the Big 12? They start by taking Kansas and Iowa State...

1) New markets 2) More great basketball which the ACC is built upon 3) No sacrifice when it comes to academics.

If the Big East can expand out of its region for Creighton, DePaul, and Marquette then why not? Bottom line is that the ACC Network needs dedicated eyeballs.

The football core isn't going to be happy about a totally basketball focused move though which brings us to the next part. The ACC could finish it off with TCU and Baylor. 1) They get access to DFW and a slice of central TX. 2) Good football with the addition of good basketball from Baylor. 3) The academics are solid albeit not elite.

Both leagues are at 18 and occupying overlapped regions that will make the scheduling agreement even more interesting.

Schools like Texas Tech and Kansas State are still out there if the PAC wants to expand. They could also look at Houston.

Thoughts?
02-25-2016 03:35 AM
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