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RE: Why Not a Football-Only Conference?
(02-14-2016 08:30 AM)MJG Wrote:  
(02-13-2016 11:46 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  
(02-13-2016 10:10 PM)e-parade Wrote:  UMass is already trying to make sure we schedule BYU and Army consistently...it just makes sense. And with Gillette involved, BYU doesn't mind playing games @UMass.

And to MJG -> Since announcing the leave from the MAC our recruiting has risen up dramatically.
Basketball is a top 25 class (likely bolstered by the brand new training facility): http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketb...amRankings
Football would be 2nd in the MAC: http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Footbal...amRankings - 80th overall, just behind BC and ECU


So far the A10/Indy is working, but time will tell.
Agree with e-parade here. Recruiting went very well for our first year being independent. Since Ryan Bamford took over as AD, we have complete schedules for 2016 and 2017 and 10 games scheduled for 2018. We also have been successful scheduling local teams as Boston College and UConn.
So far so good better scheduling better recruiting its early but so far it works.
I follow the situation being on this board and the possibility of Idaho and NMSU being forced to go independent.Maybe it helps a WSU make the move who knows.

Yup and also look at your post MJG, especially when UMass was trying to get a Football only invite to the Sun Belt. ArkState fan posted a lot and respected his post and he was almost always right. Did not like hearing that Football only invites do not work and the average is 4 years in duration. He was right and we had 4 years in the MAC. Kind of lol when saw this tread.
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RE: Why Not a Football-Only Conference?
(02-14-2016 09:08 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-14-2016 03:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(02-14-2016 09:29 AM)Hilltop 75 Wrote:  The schools that missed moving up during the last realignment are toast.

1. The State governments keep taking money away from state schools.

Louisiana just put out their troubles in the news.

Kentucky wants 4.5 % money back this year from each state university and is reducing each schools budget 9% next year.
So how are you going to sell spending more money on athletics when you are going to have to cut money from all departments.

2. Why upgrade to a G5 conference from FCS now. TV contracts for G5 conferences are going down and there is virtually no chance of a G5 making the 4 team playoff. (so you are moving up for a pre-Christmas bowl where you may break even, NOT)

3. The only prize that 64 teams in the G5 compete for one New Years Day bowl slot like Houston got this year.

4. Also even if the rules were changed (and why would any of the current 128 FBS schools vote a rule change) The new conference would
not get any money from the playoff and that agreement runs for another decade.

The schools that did move up had good leadership in place saw what was coming and acted in time. Those that did not move up were either asleep at the switch or really did not want to move up.

All that will really happen at this point if one or two schools get added into a P5 conference and leave an opening in a G5 Conference, a FCS school could be called up, but maybe not, Now that you can have a conference playoff with less than 12 teams none may be needed.


Except for the PAC 12, MWC, Big 12, U. Mass., Idaho, New Mexico State and western Big 10 teams may need some FCS schools in the area to upgrade to FBS level for an ease of scheduling issues for close by teams. Minnesota can still play the Dakota schools in the future if they move up. PAC 12 teams need some of the Big Sky schools to make the move as well. There are huge gaps between schools in the FBS level in these areas. It costs money to travel from state to state. With the money crunch happening to all the schools? The budget cuts will hit Kentucky and other P5 schools. It is a bad timing for the Big 10 to say no more FCS teams. If the states having money issues, and the taxpayers are having troubles as well? Why travel to far away games where the fans can't go?

Most all those gaps exist for a reason. There just isnt a large enough audience to attract an FBS bid. These FBS conferences talk to tv all time. If TV really wanted a FBS member in those areas, they can make it happen by simply suggesting the move and placing dollars on the table to support it. But tv has not elected to pay extra for additions in those areas--which tells me, at least to this point in time, it hasn't made economic sense for the networks to do so.


North Dakota State seems to be the acception because they drew over 1 million viewers. That means they have garner more viewers than in their tv market.
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