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RE: Could the A-Sun be on it's last leg?
(02-12-2016 12:04 PM)shampoo Wrote:  
(02-11-2016 10:39 PM)Efan Wrote:  I disagree. I think the Tri-Cities would be a little more attractive based on media market size. The Tri is ranked 97th and Macon is 120th. Not a huge difference, but it is significant. ETSU also is larger and has a much larger alumni base. We have 2 interstates running through our area just like they do, only difference is their proximity to a major city (Atlanta).

The market is attractive only if ETSU basketball and football can hold their own against UT & VT. Basketball is becoming competitive, but football will take years. Mercer, on the other hand, is off to a good start with football and beat Duke in basketball recently, so they're profile is higher status right now IMO. Things can change suddenly, though, as with FGCU a la Dunk City.
Market is just an excuse. Look at Appalachian. You really think 25/30K people are coming from Boone and Wilkesboro? They're also competing with UT, UNC, South Carolina, Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, Va. Tech, and Clemson for butts in seats. It can be done, it just takes consistent winning, and making the atmosphere on gameday something that people want to participate in. It's no different than Marshall having to compete against West Virginia, Pitt, and Ohio State.
It all starts with winning.
As for the Atlantic Sun, it'll survive. Trevecca Nazarene in Nashville will eventually want to move up (they're already getting pressure from locals to do so), Bellarmine, North Alabama, UA-H, West Florida, and West Georgia have all shown at least a hint of wanting to move up. Any of these could move up and immediately add stability.
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02-12-2016 09:28 PM
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RE: Could the A-Sun be on it's last leg?
(02-12-2016 09:28 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  
(02-12-2016 12:04 PM)shampoo Wrote:  
(02-11-2016 10:39 PM)Efan Wrote:  I disagree. I think the Tri-Cities would be a little more attractive based on media market size. The Tri is ranked 97th and Macon is 120th. Not a huge difference, but it is significant. ETSU also is larger and has a much larger alumni base. We have 2 interstates running through our area just like they do, only difference is their proximity to a major city (Atlanta).

The market is attractive only if ETSU basketball and football can hold their own against UT & VT. Basketball is becoming competitive, but football will take years. Mercer, on the other hand, is off to a good start with football and beat Duke in basketball recently, so they're profile is higher status right now IMO. Things can change suddenly, though, as with FGCU a la Dunk City.
Market is just an excuse. Look at Appalachian. You really think 25/30K people are coming from Boone and Wilkesboro? They're also competing with UT, UNC, South Carolina, Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, Va. Tech, and Clemson for butts in seats. It can be done, it just takes consistent winning, and making the atmosphere on gameday something that people want to participate in. It's no different than Marshall having to compete against West Virginia, Pitt, and Ohio State.
It all starts with winning.
As for the Atlantic Sun, it'll survive. Trevecca Nazarene in Nashville will eventually want to move up (they're already getting pressure from locals to do so), Bellarmine, North Alabama, UA-H, West Florida, and West Georgia have all shown at least a hint of wanting to move up. Any of these could move up and immediately add stability.

App State football hit that magic formula. Winning, of course, came first, but the Saturday "trip to the mountains" by the Piedmont folk plays a significant role. Now, I believe they moved to the Sun Belt primarily to have a better shot at scheduling more out of conference FBS opponents, especially home games. Miami coming to Boone next season? Their aim is to get into a regular rotation with NC State, Wake Forest, UNC, ECU, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, etc.
02-13-2016 09:54 AM
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RE: Could the A-Sun be on it's last leg?
Also North Carolina is larger then Tennessee (around 6.5 million to close to 10 million), and has traditionally been a basketball state not a football state when it comes to big schools (might be why Appy went after that niche). It also much farther away from the Big 4 than ETSU is from UT. Larger enrollment, a tradition built over many, many years, lots of factors that make Appy St different from ETSU even though they are close on the map.
02-13-2016 11:44 AM
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(02-13-2016 11:44 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  Also North Carolina is larger then Tennessee (around 6.5 million to close to 10 million), and has traditionally been a basketball state not a football state when it comes to big schools (might be why Appy went after that niche). It also much farther away from the Big 4 than ETSU is from UT. Larger enrollment, a tradition built over many, many years, lots of factors that make Appy St different from ETSU even though they are close on the map.

MTSU hasn't had much trouble being successful at the FBS level, and they aren't much farther than we are from Knoxville. They're also in the backyard of the Titans and Vanderbilt, so I wouldn't give them much of a leg up on us.

Bottom line is, if you work at it and keep focused, the excuses become obsolete.
02-13-2016 12:43 PM
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RE: Could the A-Sun be on it's last leg?
The A-Sun has to recruit members from Florida. It's the only way they keep teams. FGCU has no where to go, they're stuck down there unless they plunk down a huge amount of $$$ on football. The NJIT's and Kennesaw's of the world are always flight risks with their proximity to other conferences.
02-13-2016 01:52 PM
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