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Can't he retract his declaration to go early ????

http://walterfootball.com/draft2016WR.php

Too late, he's already signed an agent from what I understand.

Struggles to get off blocks. If he were closer to 200 that might not be the case, but then if he added that bulk his speed would likely take a hit.

You guys don't want to hear this but he declared because he didn't feel he could upgrade his draft status by staying, and he didn't like playing for Fleck. Per a source close to DB.

Quote:You guys don't want to hear this but he declared because he didn't feel he could upgrade his draft status by staying, and he didn't like playing for Fleck. Per a source close to DB.

Too bad.

Dude was thriving!!!

Braverman may turn into an all-pro type in Canada when it's all said and done. He'd do well in a system that throws a lot on a bigger field, with forward motion allowed.

(02-10-2016 03:14 PM)ESSSS Wrote:  

Quote:You guys don't want to hear this but he declared because he didn't feel he could upgrade his draft status by staying, and he didn't like playing for Fleck. Per a source close to DB.

Too bad.

Dude was thriving!!!

He was 1 of 2 receiving targets under Fleck. I don't believe this.

(02-10-2016 03:27 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 03:14 PM)ESSSS Wrote:  

Quote:You guys don't want to hear this but he declared because he didn't feel he could upgrade his draft status by staying, and he didn't like playing for Fleck. Per a source close to DB.

Too bad.

Dude was thriving!!!

He was 1 of 2 receiving targets under Fleck. I don't believe this.

+1

(02-10-2016 02:45 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Struggles to get off blocks. If he were closer to 200 that might not be the case, but then if he added that bulk his speed would likely take a hit.

You guys don't want to hear this but he declared because he didn't feel he could upgrade his draft status by staying, and he didn't like playing for Fleck. Per a source close to DB.

You had me all the way up until "per a source close to DB"

For a player like Braverman, he would be one play from an NFL ending injury... He's gonna take his shot while he has one and obviously carries a work habit he believes will get him his money... I honestly am surprised Davis didn't do the same.

(02-10-2016 02:45 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Struggles to get off blocks. If he were closer to 200 that might not be the case, but then if he added that bulk his speed would likely take a hit.

You guys don't want to hear this but he declared because he didn't feel he could upgrade his draft status by staying, and he didn't like playing for Fleck. Per a source close to DB.

I agree he wasn't going to improve his stock. Heck, what DB heard might be accurate too. But I don't think there is any denying that Fleck's offense has helped give Braverman an opportunity to potentially play pro football. So, I would have to think there is a limit to how much dislike he might feel towards Fleck. Fleck wasn't the coach he committed to. So there isn't a huge expectation that there is going to be a feeling of loyalty. The important thing is, the young man worked hard, and played hard while here.

Young man got his education, got to play a lot of football. Western and him are both better for it. Win win for all involved. Good luck to him. Hope he does well.

By 'DB' Chip meant Daniel Braverman, not DesertBronco!

(02-10-2016 04:22 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 02:45 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Struggles to get off blocks. If he were closer to 200 that might not be the case, but then if he added that bulk his speed would likely take a hit.

You guys don't want to hear this but he declared because he didn't feel he could upgrade his draft status by staying, and he didn't like playing for Fleck. Per a source close to DB.

I agree he wasn't going to improve his stock. Heck, what DB heard might be accurate too. But I don't think there is any denying that Fleck's offense has helped give Braverman an opportunity to potentially play pro football. So, I would have to think there is a limit to how much dislike he might feel towards Fleck. Fleck wasn't the coach he committed to. So there isn't a huge expectation that there is going to be a feeling of loyalty. The important thing is, the young man worked hard, and played hard while here.

Young man got his education, got to play a lot of football. Western and him are both better for it. Win win for all involved. Good luck to him. Hope he does well.

It is irrelevant whether Braverman liked Fleck or not. Every team sport in the world has players who don't like the coaches. It's no biggie and very common to find players who don't like coaches. If that is why he left it's pretty weak.

Sorry, DB = Dan Braverman

how many ID's does this DB have????

Not super surprised if braverman didn't like fleck, he was recruited by cubit; cubit and fleck have very different personalities. Fleck is one of those people obviously that can rub people the wrong way. Anyway I hope the best for braverman he was nothing but a quality individual in this program. Will be rooting for him just like all players from western.

Yeah, some players don't mesh as well with a new regime, especially given how different the styles are between these two staffs. Still, there can't be too much bad blood there as Braverman's been retweeting Fleck's tweets.

(02-10-2016 10:31 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Yeah, some players don't mesh as well with a new regime, especially given how different the styles are between these two staffs. Still, there can't be too much bad blood there as Braverman's been retweeting Fleck's tweets.

The Braverman leaving due to fleck propaganda is just that... Propaganda.

It wouldn't completely shock me if for some reason Braverman didn't like Fleck, but there's no way I'm buying that's the sole reason he left. And let's not forget (as others have pointed out) that without the offensive system Fleck and Ciarrocca have established here, I'm not so sure Braverman would even have the opportunity he has in front of him right now.

Leaving because you don't like the HC, and leaving because you are just ready for the next chapter of your life are two totally different things. If Braverman had done the 5th year thing at a P5 school then we could likely call it Fleck related, but he chose to end the college experience completely....he's just ready to start the next chapter.

Totally irrelevant, but Cubit ran an offense that would have been favorable to Braverman.