I just finished the book "Missoula" by Jon Krakaeur which is timely given the recent allegations that Johnny Manziel beat up his girlfriend.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/um-ad-k...96c57.html

This is an important book and will really hit home if you have daughters.

Kent State, Tennessee and Baylor in the news today for covering up/ignoring rapes. I'm not sure if I had a daughter I'd want her to go college. This stuff keeps happening. It's awful.

I have three daughters in college right now, one at University of Hawaii and two at University of Utah, not a day goes by I don't worry.... Just hope and pray we raised them right, and raised them smart and tough.

Trust me, as a father of 3 girls, youngest to graduate from college this year, the worry doesn't go away.

(02-10-2016 01:38 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  I have three daughters in college right now, one at University of Hawaii and two at University of Utah, not a day goes by I don't worry.... Just hope and pray we raised them right, and raised them smart and tough.

You have to worry more that people raised their sons right. Most of them did, but those bad apples, well they are awful.

(02-09-2016 11:40 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Kent State, Tennessee and Baylor in the news today for covering up/ignoring rapes. I'm not sure if I had a daughter I'd want her to go college. This stuff keeps happening. It's awful.

WTF? So rather than give her the tools to succeed in life you would just keep her at home? I understand the worry, but this seems over protective and a little chauvinistic.

My older daughter was an RA at Miami of Ohio. She saw regular reports of all of the crimes etc that occurred on campus and some of her stories would curl your toe nails. This on a relatively "safe" campus. My wife and younger daughter both have some sad stories about their experiences in college and they acknowledge some responsibility for what they experienced.

This is a real problem that is worthy of some attention.

(02-10-2016 03:19 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 11:40 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Kent State, Tennessee and Baylor in the news today for covering up/ignoring rapes. I'm not sure if I had a daughter I'd want her to go college. This stuff keeps happening. It's awful.

WTF? So rather than give her the tools to succeed in life you would just keep her at home? I understand the worry, but this seems over protective and a little chauvinistic.

You read this the dumbest way possible.

(02-10-2016 11:44 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 03:19 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 11:40 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Kent State, Tennessee and Baylor in the news today for covering up/ignoring rapes. I'm not sure if I had a daughter I'd want her to go college. This stuff keeps happening. It's awful.

WTF? So rather than give her the tools to succeed in life you would just keep her at home? I understand the worry, but this seems over protective and a little chauvinistic.

You read this the dumbest way possible.

Why's that. Pretty cut and dry to me.

(02-10-2016 11:44 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 03:19 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 11:40 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Kent State, Tennessee and Baylor in the news today for covering up/ignoring rapes. I'm not sure if I had a daughter I'd want her to go college. This stuff keeps happening. It's awful.

WTF? So rather than give her the tools to succeed in life you would just keep her at home? I understand the worry, but this seems over protective and a little chauvinistic.

You read this the dumbest way possible.

Rather than raise your hypothetical daughter with the skills needed to avoid situations that could endanger her, or give her the skills to defend herself or raise her with the morals to stand up for what is right you would just keep her at home, avoid college all together and let daddy protect her until the "right" man comes along.

But what did you "really" mean.

More on Kent State:
http://deadspin.com/lawsuit-kent-state-c...1758114043

(02-10-2016 11:44 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 03:19 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 11:40 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Kent State, Tennessee and Baylor in the news today for covering up/ignoring rapes. I'm not sure if I had a daughter I'd want her to go college. This stuff keeps happening. It's awful.

WTF? So rather than give her the tools to succeed in life you would just keep her at home? I understand the worry, but this seems over protective and a little chauvinistic.

You read this the dumbest way possible.

No! Things can only be taken literally! You can't possibly have been using hyperbole to convey your understanding of how nightmarishly ****** and dangerous just basic life can be for women in ways that escape the view of men and almost entirely specific to being a woman.

(02-11-2016 08:11 AM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  More on Kent State:
http://deadspin.com/lawsuit-kent-state-c...1758114043

This story is textbook how rape works in the real world.

If everyone is taught their entire lives that in social situations one person's desire to do literally anything never overrides their friend/date/partner's desire not to do a thing because that makes you, at best, an *******- then the world probably sucks less.

College rape is horrible. But is it any worse now than in the past? Or is it just the latest cause celebre?

(02-11-2016 10:48 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  College rape is horrible. But is it any worse now than in the past? Or is it just the latest cause celebre?

My assumption would be it probably doesn't run any more rampant now than it ever has. Like many social problems, advanced technology brings causes to the public eye in a much broader and noticeable fashion.

Our society has long tolerated, and in some ways even glamorized, excessive drinking and partying. You see it in media, film, magazine articles, television programs, etc. Recounting spring break shenanigans are put out there for our amusement; the ugly underbelly of it is washed away.

You take a grip of young adults, ply them with liquor in an unsupervised setting, and poor, irresponsible decisions will follow. That has been the reality for decades. Until our universities take a stronger stance against the excessive drinking, I don't know how much things will change.

(02-11-2016 12:33 AM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 11:44 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 03:19 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 11:40 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Kent State, Tennessee and Baylor in the news today for covering up/ignoring rapes. I'm not sure if I had a daughter I'd want her to go college. This stuff keeps happening. It's awful.

WTF? So rather than give her the tools to succeed in life you would just keep her at home? I understand the worry, but this seems over protective and a little chauvinistic.

You read this the dumbest way possible.

Rather than raise your hypothetical daughter with the skills needed to avoid situations that could endanger her, or give her the skills to defend herself or raise her with the morals to stand up for what is right you would just keep her at home, avoid college all together and let daddy protect her until the "right" man comes along.

But what did you "really" mean.

You assumed the most extreme possible answer, rather than ascribing a rational middle ground to it.

Who the hell would prevent their daughter from being educated or put them in some kind of lock down? You made HUGE insulting and negative assumptions about me, which you're allowed to do, but you probably should've asked a few clarification questions first.

What I "really" meant (there was no need for quotes there), is that I wouldn't feel good about sending my hypothetical daughter to live on a college campus. I didn't mean I'd feel the need to imprison her and keep her ignorant.

(02-11-2016 10:48 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  College rape is horrible. But is it any worse now than in the past? Or is it just the latest cause celebre?

It's not merely a college issue. There have been scandals and cover ups at the high school level, and the pro level (just sticking to the sports theme for a moment.). It's a societal issue. And voices are finally being raised against it....because hopefully at some point people are on board with not letting people get away with rape (for ideally any reason) just because they happen to be good at sports.

But for now, the beat goes on. It's very very sad.