(02-12-2016 12:24 AM)Buc4LifeGrad2015 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:02 AM)BucFan1244 Wrote:  [quote='etsubuc' pid='12994541' dateline='1455245393']
I would prefer 2000 attendance rather then them showing up. I told myself last year I wouldnt go to the Greek game and look what i did to myself.

Some of those 2000 attendance crowds SOUND like 5000 attendance crowds. I dont understand why so many students dont seem to care about ETSU basketball. That used to really burn me up when I was up there. We have been blessed over the years with some great talent and really solid teams. I hope the crowd can provide a spark during the UTC game.

It's going to be a packed house with the general admission people added in.

It's going to be a packed house with the general admission people added in.

I'm beyond excited for this game!

(02-12-2016 12:36 AM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:24 AM)Buc4LifeGrad2015 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:02 AM)BucFan1244 Wrote:  [quote='etsubuc' pid='12994541' dateline='1455245393']
I would prefer 2000 attendance rather then them showing up. I told myself last year I wouldnt go to the Greek game and look what i did to myself.

Some of those 2000 attendance crowds SOUND like 5000 attendance crowds. I dont understand why so many students dont seem to care about ETSU basketball. That used to really burn me up when I was up there. We have been blessed over the years with some great talent and really solid teams. I hope the crowd can provide a spark during the UTC game.

It's going to be a packed house with the general admission people added in.

I hope it is. Luckily the greeks can go back to their frat houses and not give a damn about BBall.

At least they come, some of the students would never even darken the door of Freedom Hall. I'm not defending them and I wasn't Greek in college, but at least they show up and every once in awhile heckle a ref.

Saturday will be a different story. They won't be segregated by their letters and hopefully it'll be like the Green Bay game.

(02-11-2016 03:56 PM)BucFan1244 Wrote:  Welp it is greek night tonight. I will have fun watching the student section vanish at halftime as they go to PRs and drink their life away.

(02-12-2016 12:02 AM)BucFan1244 Wrote:  The stupid damn Greeks dont know how to watch a basketball game and half of them didnt watch a minute of play. I had to move to the upper decks to avoid the retard. I would prefer 2000 attendance rather then them showing up. I told myself last year I wouldnt go to the Greek game and look what i did to myself.

(02-12-2016 01:25 AM)BucFan1244 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:36 AM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  It's going to be a packed house with the general admission people added in.

I hope it is. Luckily the greeks can go back to their frat houses and not give a damn about BBall.

I have never understood the penchant some fans have to denigrate other fans they deem not up to their standards.

It must have really chafed you when they stayed for the whole game.

(02-12-2016 01:25 AM)BucFan1244 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:36 AM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:24 AM)Buc4LifeGrad2015 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:02 AM)BucFan1244 Wrote:  [quote='etsubuc' pid='12994541' dateline='1455245393']
I would prefer 2000 attendance rather then them showing up. I told myself last year I wouldnt go to the Greek game and look what i did to myself.

Some of those 2000 attendance crowds SOUND like 5000 attendance crowds. I dont understand why so many students dont seem to care about ETSU basketball. That used to really burn me up when I was up there. We have been blessed over the years with some great talent and really solid teams. I hope the crowd can provide a spark during the UTC game.

It's going to be a packed house with the general admission people added in.

I hope it is. Luckily the greeks can go back to their frat houses and not give a damn about BBall.

At I think the Warner football game this season, there was a Greek reunion and it had about 300 people come to the game, so maybe it is valuable to invest in the Greeks if some of them come supporters after college.

I've heard quite often over the years that historically a large portion of those involved with the greek system are the ones that are quite likely to give back to the university as alumni. Actually, any students that are highly involved and have an enjoyable and memorable experience in college are likely to be financially supportive after graduation. I think the administration is aware of this statistic and try very hard to get them involved. However, I do think that there is a growing culture of students that don't really care in any form. Perhaps it's a selfish attitude or something, I'm not sure, but even at the HS level, I see fewer and fewer students that have attachment to their school in the way previous generations did. My daughter can't understand at all the apathy with her generation toward their school.

Not to sound like an old guy, but technology had a hand in that. School events were used as ways to gather and communicate. Cell phones and social media have replaced that.

I personally think that we should encourage the Greeks to come as many times as we can. We need students, and they are about the only ones who are engaged on campus. I don't understand why in the world we wouldn't want them there. A large group stood up the entire time waving their silly signs, they were engaged in the halftime songs, etc.

As an aside, this win put us at 16 matching last year's total, and we still have 6 regular season games to play. In my view, this qualifies Forbes' 1st season as an unequivocal success. Moreover, the timing of his arrival and bringing in 10 guy further validates his success.

Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??

Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??
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We'd be lucky to be at .500. With so many close games this year Bartow would have found a way to lose them and probably lose them big.

Who knows? This is a fun team to watch. As much as folks like to see a blowout, I can't remember three straight home games being this entertaining.

(02-12-2016 12:07 PM)Buc4LifeGrad2015 Wrote:  Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??

(02-12-2016 12:07 PM)Buc4LifeGrad2015 Wrote:  We'd be lucky to be at .500. With so many close games this year Bartow would have found a way to lose them and probably lose them big.

That sounds about right. I still remember how we choked away the game against Samford last year in Freedom Hall. It was at that point last year that I had officially given up on the team doing anything the rest of year, and I really hated doing that, but it was obvious at that point the season was a wash.

Also last year we were 0-2 in OT games. This year 3-0.

(02-12-2016 11:56 AM)Bucfaithful Wrote:  As an aside, this win put us at 16 matching last year's total, and we still have 6 regular season games to play. In my view, this qualifies Forbes' 1st season as an unequivocal success. Moreover, the timing of his arrival and bringing in 10 guy further validates his success.

Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??

He's not, so why does it matter?

(02-12-2016 04:10 PM)Just Buc Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 11:56 AM)Bucfaithful Wrote:  As an aside, this win put us at 16 matching last year's total, and we still have 6 regular season games to play. In my view, this qualifies Forbes' 1st season as an unequivocal success. Moreover, the timing of his arrival and bringing in 10 guy further validates his success.

Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??

He's not, so why does it matter?

Breaking News: Because it's a forum where folks like to discuss a number of topics.

(02-12-2016 04:31 PM)squeak Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:10 PM)Just Buc Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 11:56 AM)Bucfaithful Wrote:  As an aside, this win put us at 16 matching last year's total, and we still have 6 regular season games to play. In my view, this qualifies Forbes' 1st season as an unequivocal success. Moreover, the timing of his arrival and bringing in 10 guy further validates his success.

Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??

He's not, so why does it matter?

Breaking News: Because it's a forum where folks like to discuss a number of topics.

It is certainly valid and relevant to compare coach Forbes with Bartow.

(02-12-2016 04:10 PM)Just Buc Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 11:56 AM)Bucfaithful Wrote:  As an aside, this win put us at 16 matching last year's total, and we still have 6 regular season games to play. In my view, this qualifies Forbes' 1st season as an unequivocal success. Moreover, the timing of his arrival and bringing in 10 guy further validates his success.

Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??

He's not, so why does it matter?

It matters because after bartow started the downward trend of ETSU basketball in his second year as coach (and it probably started the first year, but because of how loaded Eddy D. left the roster, no one could tell - except maybe the guys on the team), those of us with true basketball insight could see the writing on the wall that early - and said so on this forum.
I'm getting on in years, and it's quite possible that Forbes is my last chance at a taste of another glory era. I hope it's not the last, but one never knows. Point being.....I (along with others) tried mightily to get bartow removed 8-9 years ago (and every year following) - and with what's left of each of our lives, especially those of us who are getting some age on us, there is only so much time to waste, as it were.
I kept resurrecting the "Fire bartow" threads, and slowly........ever so slowly.......it began to dawn on more and more fans that we were heading down and further down. In retrospect, imo, it's hard to imagine how/why those people were defending him. If the outcry had been stronger, and more unified, at that/those time(s), maybe we could have gotten him removed much earlier. It still almost sickens me to think what we suffered thru.

It matters because there were some who tried to defend bartow, and that really got to me, and I guess I still have a bitter taste in my mouth for all the wasted years.

So......further point being, I choose to give less credence to those posters from that time who defended him, as it shows a lack of basketball knowledge - again, imo. I've thought this season about going back and bumping one or more of those threads up, but I'm trying to be positive about this. There are lots of analogies that I could make, but I won't go 'there'.

I don't want us to forever carry around bartow's legacy as baggage, but we also have to not forget where we came from (or *are* coming from), to help us not repeat the mistakes of the past. I'm sure you all know the old quote from Santayana about those who don't remember the past.
Maybe some of you younger guys can heal quicker than I can, but the sting of the lost bartow years still burns, and will for a long time.

And on the newer, other hand........I hope each and every one of us will long be thankful for Dr. Noland deciding he actually liked Johnson City, which led to the removal of dave mullins, which led to him bringing Dr. Sander on board, which led to the removal of bartow, which led to Forbes landing here. I sincerely hope the good that should arise will replace the damage from all those years - eventually washing away, or counterbalancing, the suffering we've endured.

That's why it matters. I want us to long keep that perspective, and thus more fully respect and remember the uptrend that hopefully will continue for a long time, and never take it for granted.

Sorry for the rant; obviously I've bled quite a bit of blue and gold thru the last sorrowful decade. Carry on.....

Poster',

You articulated my sentiments in a way that I could not - the past is prologue.

Go Bucs.

(02-13-2016 04:00 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:10 PM)Just Buc Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 11:56 AM)Bucfaithful Wrote:  As an aside, this win put us at 16 matching last year's total, and we still have 6 regular season games to play. In my view, this qualifies Forbes' 1st season as an unequivocal success. Moreover, the timing of his arrival and bringing in 10 guy further validates his success.

Where would we be at this point in the season if MuBar was still the coach??

He's not, so why does it matter?

It matters because after bartow started the downward trend of ETSU basketball in his second year as coach (and it probably started the first year, but because of how loaded Eddy D. left the roster, no one could tell - except maybe the guys on the team), those of us with true basketball insight could see the writing on the wall that early - and said so on this forum.
I'm getting on in years, and it's quite possible that Forbes is my last chance at a taste of another glory era. I hope it's not the last, but one never knows. Point being.....I (along with others) tried mightily to get bartow removed 8-9 years ago (and every year following) - and with what's left of each of our lives, especially those of us who are getting some age on us, there is only so much time to waste, as it were.
I kept resurrecting the "Fire bartow" threads, and slowly........ever so slowly.......it began to dawn on more and more fans that we were heading down and further down. In retrospect, imo, it's hard to imagine how/why those people were defending him. If the outcry had been stronger, and more unified, at that/those time(s), maybe we could have gotten him removed much earlier. It still almost sickens me to think what we suffered thru.

It matters because there were some who tried to defend bartow, and that really got to me, and I guess I still have a bitter taste in my mouth for all the wasted years.

So......further point being, I choose to give less credence to those posters from that time who defended him, as it shows a lack of basketball knowledge - again, imo. I've thought this season about going back and bumping one or more of those threads up, but I'm trying to be positive about this. There are lots of analogies that I could make, but I won't go 'there'.

I don't want us to forever carry around bartow's legacy as baggage, but we also have to not forget where we came from (or *are* coming from), to help us not repeat the mistakes of the past. I'm sure you all know the old quote from Santayana about those who don't remember the past.
Maybe some of you younger guys can heal quicker than I can, but the sting of the lost bartow years still burns, and will for a long time.

And on the newer, other hand........I hope each and every one of us will long be thankful for Dr. Noland deciding he actually liked Johnson City, which led to the removal of dave mullins, which led to him bringing Dr. Sander on board, which led to the removal of bartow, which led to Forbes landing here. I sincerely hope the good that should arise will replace the damage from all those years - eventually washing away, or counterbalancing, the suffering we've endured.

That's why it matters. I want us to long keep that perspective, and thus more fully respect and remember the uptrend that hopefully will continue for a long time, and never take it for granted.

Sorry for the rant; obviously I've bled quite a bit of blue and gold thru the last sorrowful decade. Carry on.....

Thanks!

A bit over the top, but this is BASKETBALL. Go Forbes! Go Bucs! GOIN' DOWN, CHATT TOWN!