Stink, I agree with what you said, I'm just saying I understand the emotion of it all... He is a professional and should act as such, but he's really not far removed from being a kid.

(02-08-2016 11:41 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Stink, I agree with what you said, I'm just saying I understand the emotion of it all... He is a professional and should act as such, but he's really not far removed from being a kid.

which goes to another level of character and the PC millennial modicum o'day....

at some point, one has to become a man...humility and respect (or lack of) are ingrained early in life....it's obvious his 'gentleman' skills need honing....

this MVP and QB is the future brand of the NFL and leader of the team.....that 'superman' was a complete display of failure in that situation and furthered his lack of respect for job responsibilities during the presser....

(02-08-2016 11:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:41 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Stink, I agree with what you said, I'm just saying I understand the emotion of it all... He is a professional and should act as such, but he's really not far removed from being a kid.

which goes to another level of character and the PC millennial modicum o'day....

at some point, one has to become a man...humility and respect (or lack of) are ingrained early in life....it's obvious his 'gentleman' skills need honing....

this MVP and QB is the future brand of the NFL and leader of the team.....that 'superman' was a complete display of failure in that situation and furthered his lack of respect for job responsibilities during the presser....

True...

(02-08-2016 11:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:41 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Stink, I agree with what you said, I'm just saying I understand the emotion of it all... He is a professional and should act as such, but he's really not far removed from being a kid.

which goes to another level of character and the PC millennial modicum o'day....

at some point, one has to become a man...humility and respect (or lack of) are ingrained early in life....it's obvious his 'gentleman' skills need honing....

this MVP and QB is the future brand of the NFL and leader of the team.....that 'superman' was a complete display of failure in that situation and furthered his lack of respect for job responsibilities during the presser....

Were you this hard on Peyton when he walked off the field and refused to shake anyone's hand when he lost the Superbowl with the Colts?

I'm assuming you've also read that they had the Broncos players sitting right behind him on the other side of the backdrop clowning him during his interview? That never should have happened. It was a bad setup by the NFL. The two teams never should have been anywhere near each other after the game.

Cam had a word with Peyton on the field after the game and Peyton praised how humble he was in defeat. I'll take Manning's word over a retards on the internet.

Overall that Super Bowl sucked.

It was poorly played.
Halftime show was awful.
Commercials were okay at best.

(02-08-2016 10:55 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  I don't have a problem with him. From what ESPN said this morning, the way the room was set up he could hear Broncos players in another room bragging about "shutting him down" and he was hurt from the loss. Can't blame the kid for that. Mike and Mike didn't blame him either.

In the video it actually sounds like someone is heckling him in the background. I guess that was the Broncos doing interviews in the same room. It was a poor setup and if he could hear folks talking **** about him while having to answer what were obviously terrible questions to have to answer, then him getting angry is understandable.

That said he should have said something about that if that was what was bothering him then and there. He was wrong to get up and leave but I'm glad he didn't throw things and cuse, I wanted to!

Bad interview setup and bad choice on his part. I wish the Panthers had sent someone with him to keep things inline. None of us would want to be in that same situation though.

(02-08-2016 12:05 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:41 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Stink, I agree with what you said, I'm just saying I understand the emotion of it all... He is a professional and should act as such, but he's really not far removed from being a kid.

which goes to another level of character and the PC millennial modicum o'day....

at some point, one has to become a man...humility and respect (or lack of) are ingrained early in life....it's obvious his 'gentleman' skills need honing....

this MVP and QB is the future brand of the NFL and leader of the team.....that 'superman' was a complete display of failure in that situation and furthered his lack of respect for job responsibilities during the presser....

Were you this hard on Peyton when he walked off the field and refused to shake anyone's hand when he lost the Superbowl with the Colts?

I'm assuming you've also read that they had the Broncos players sitting right behind him on the other side of the backdrop clowning him during his interview? That never should have happened. It was a bad setup by the NFL. The two teams never should have been anywhere near each other after the game.

Cam had a word with Peyton on the field after the game and Peyton praised how humble he was in defeat. I'll take Manning's word over a retards on the internet.

Peyton's post game presser after his first Super Bowl loss....

(02-08-2016 12:25 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 10:55 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  I don't have a problem with him. From what ESPN said this morning, the way the room was set up he could hear Broncos players in another room bragging about "shutting him down" and he was hurt from the loss. Can't blame the kid for that. Mike and Mike didn't blame him either.

In the video it actually sounds like someone is heckling him in the background. I guess that was the Broncos doing interviews in the same room. It was a poor setup and if he could hear folks talking **** about him while having to answer what were obviously terrible questions to have to answer, then him getting angry is understandable.

That said he should have said something about that if that was what was bothering him then and there. He was wrong to get up and leave but I'm glad he didn't throw things and cuse, I wanted to!

Bad interview setup and bad choice on his part. I wish the Panthers had sent someone with him to keep things inline. None of us would want to be in that same situation though.

Agreed.

(02-08-2016 12:05 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:41 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Stink, I agree with what you said, I'm just saying I understand the emotion of it all... He is a professional and should act as such, but he's really not far removed from being a kid.

which goes to another level of character and the PC millennial modicum o'day....

at some point, one has to become a man...humility and respect (or lack of) are ingrained early in life....it's obvious his 'gentleman' skills need honing....

this MVP and QB is the future brand of the NFL and leader of the team.....that 'superman' was a complete display of failure in that situation and furthered his lack of respect for job responsibilities during the presser....

Were you this hard on Peyton when he walked off the field and refused to shake anyone's hand when he lost the Superbowl with the Colts?

I'm assuming you've also read that they had the Broncos players sitting right behind him on the other side of the backdrop clowning him during his interview? That never should have happened. It was a bad setup by the NFL. The two teams never should have been anywhere near each other after the game.

Cam had a word with Peyton on the field after the game and Peyton praised how humble he was in defeat. I'll take Manning's word over a retards on the internet.

I can't believe how dumb the NFL is sometimes. They are their own worst enemy.

Everyone needs to get off Cam's back. Most of the people who are criticizing him are the same people who have never strapped on a pair of cleats before.

When was the last time a black QB won a Super Bowl? Cam is/was carrying a lot of weight on his shoulders in more ways than one. Every QB is (wrongly IMO) judged on Super Bowls won/lost. You can bet Cam knows that. I can imagine for a black QB that's even more difficult to deal with. Can't even begin to fathom how difficult last night was for him after Denver's defense blew him up all night. The frustration he experienced had to be immeasurable.

Does he need to add some maturity? Probably, but you have to know he wasn't raised in rich New Orleans neighborhood. He wasn't born to the same conveniences a lot of the QB's have who end up playing that position in the NFL. His situation is different.

And this is from someone who has known Peyton since his freshman year in college. One of the greatest men I have ever known. I just feel the criticism of Cam is a little over the top. But I'm very happy that Peyton will go out a winner. And yes he will retire.

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  When was the last time a black QB won a Super Bowl?

A long, long time ago.......2014.

Here is that QB's post game presser after a gut wrenching loss last year.

(02-08-2016 12:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:25 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 10:55 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  I don't have a problem with him. From what ESPN said this morning, the way the room was set up he could hear Broncos players in another room bragging about "shutting him down" and he was hurt from the loss. Can't blame the kid for that. Mike and Mike didn't blame him either.

In the video it actually sounds like someone is heckling him in the background. I guess that was the Broncos doing interviews in the same room. It was a poor setup and if he could hear folks talking **** about him while having to answer what were obviously terrible questions to have to answer, then him getting angry is understandable.

That said he should have said something about that if that was what was bothering him then and there. He was wrong to get up and leave but I'm glad he didn't throw things and cuse, I wanted to!

Bad interview setup and bad choice on his part. I wish the Panthers had sent someone with him to keep things inline. None of us would want to be in that same situation though.

Agreed.

http://wfnz.com/2016/02/08/heres-the-rea...onference/

Bottom line is that if you are going to be a showy, self-agrandizing, look at me player when things are going good then you have to step up and be a man when things don't go your way. Newton is just a more talented Kapernick, he's immature and can't handle adversity. Look at Tom Brady, dude gives off every sign of an arrogant pr*ck, but he takes his medicine in losses. Same for Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson is text book for how a professional should act.

People try to make it a race thing, but my guess is that it's an age thing. Us Older guys expect players to act with a certain professionalism and younger guys like the demonstrative approach.

(02-08-2016 02:01 PM)banker Wrote:  Bottom line is that if you are going to be a showy, self-agrandizing, look at me player when things are going good then you have to step up and be a man when things don't go your way. Newton is just a more talented Kapernick, he's immature and can't handle adversity. Look at Tom Brady, dude gives off every sign of an arrogant pr*ck, but he takes his medicine in losses. Same for Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson is text book for how a professional should act.

GTFO of here with that garbage.

Brady cussing out a ref and Rodgers throwing a tablet is "taking their medicine"? Or is it "passion"?

I was NOT rooting for the Panthers...and I have never been a fan of Cam Newton (except for his generosity to kids)... But that seemed like a pretty crappy interview set up.

Not crazy about Denver winning but I am about Cam losing. That little kid needs a lot of humility and needs to learn to win respectfully and not lose childishly.

Halftime show= C

Best commercial=fetus and cheetos A+

I think Manning should retire at his best opportunity and I think yesterdays game was that.

(02-08-2016 12:26 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:05 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 11:41 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Stink, I agree with what you said, I'm just saying I understand the emotion of it all... He is a professional and should act as such, but he's really not far removed from being a kid.

which goes to another level of character and the PC millennial modicum o'day....

at some point, one has to become a man...humility and respect (or lack of) are ingrained early in life....it's obvious his 'gentleman' skills need honing....

this MVP and QB is the future brand of the NFL and leader of the team.....that 'superman' was a complete display of failure in that situation and furthered his lack of respect for job responsibilities during the presser....

Were you this hard on Peyton when he walked off the field and refused to shake anyone's hand when he lost the Superbowl with the Colts?

I'm assuming you've also read that they had the Broncos players sitting right behind him on the other side of the backdrop clowning him during his interview? That never should have happened. It was a bad setup by the NFL. The two teams never should have been anywhere near each other after the game.

Cam had a word with Peyton on the field after the game and Peyton praised how humble he was in defeat. I'll take Manning's word over a retards on the internet.

Peyton's post game presser after his first Super Bowl loss....

...and there you have it...

the game is bigger than the individual....cam doesn't understand that part of the equation....

(02-08-2016 12:06 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Overall that Super Bowl sucked.

It was poorly played.
Halftime show was awful.
Commercials were okay at best.

Ive gotta think that was a brutal game to watch for everyone but Bronco fans.

(02-08-2016 04:14 PM)Artifice Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:06 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Overall that Super Bowl sucked.

It was poorly played.
Halftime show was awful.
Commercials were okay at best.

Ive gotta think that was a brutal game to watch for everyone but Bronco fans.

If you're a fan of defense I'd imagine it was a joy to watch.

Well, Cam has now admitted that he backed of going for the fumble because he didn't want to risk injury. Leon can't do everything.

(02-08-2016 02:36 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:01 PM)banker Wrote:  Bottom line is that if you are going to be a showy, self-agrandizing, look at me player when things are going good then you have to step up and be a man when things don't go your way. Newton is just a more talented Kapernick, he's immature and can't handle adversity. Look at Tom Brady, dude gives off every sign of an arrogant pr*ck, but he takes his medicine in losses. Same for Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson is text book for how a professional should act.

GTFO of here with that garbage.

Brady cussing out a ref and Rodgers throwing a tablet is "taking their medicine"? Or is it "passion"?

You're confusing passion during the game with post game actions. I said nothing about how Cam acted during the game. I will say that both Brady and Rodgers would have understood the gravity of recovering that fumble and not backed off.