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UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
Actually I believe your graphic is a stronger argument that Kansas and Mizzou should be in the Big 10.

Plus Texas and Okie should not be in the Big 12.
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
If you want to make a most-German FBS schools conference:

Cincinnati
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Missouri
Purdue
Iowa
Iowa State
Nebraska
Bowling Green
Ball State
Miami (OH)
Kansas
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
(02-08-2016 01:52 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If you want to make a most-German FBS schools conference:

Cincinnati
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Missouri
Purdue
Iowa
Iowa State
Nebraska
Bowling Green
Ball State
Miami (OH)
Kansas

When Wisconsin came to Nippert to play UC back in 1999, the game was scheduled on Oktoberfest. There was a very large contingent of Wisky fans who went to both events that day, sadly for them they had to watch UC take down the Badgers 17-12.
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
(02-07-2016 03:27 PM)goofus Wrote:  Actually I believe your graphic is a stronger argument that Kansas and Mizzou should be in the Big 10.

Plus Texas and Okie should not be in the Big 12.

Looks to me like ISU and Iowa should be together.
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
So if that's the Wiener Schnitzel Conference, what would the Barbecue Conference look like?

ECU
Memphis
South Carolina
Kansas
Texas
Houston
UTEP
Alabama-Huntsville (unless UAB has white bbq sauce?)
St. Louis (non-football)
Santa Maria (non-football)
UT-RGV (non-football)
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The Big 10 vs. SEC for Germans aspect does have historical roots -- Germanic immigrants were strong supporters of Abraham Lincoln's quest to eliminate slavery. It was too close to the serfdom that many of them came out of in Europe.
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
Nothing against the Big XII, and I'd welcome an invitation in a heartbeat, but Cincy would be a better fit with the ACC -- better geographically, better academically, better athletically, better culturally, and better in terms of restored rivalries with old Big East partners.
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(02-08-2016 08:54 PM)colohank Wrote:  Nothing against the Big XII, and I'd welcome an invitation in a heartbeat, but Cincy would be a better fit with the ACC -- better geographically, better academically, better athletically, better culturally, and better in terms of restored rivalries with old Big East partners.

You forgot bad football better chance of winning
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
(02-08-2016 02:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(02-08-2016 01:52 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If you want to make a most-German FBS schools conference:

Cincinnati
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Missouri
Purdue
Iowa
Iowa State
Nebraska
Bowling Green
Ball State
Miami (OH)
Kansas

When Wisconsin came to Nippert to play UC back in 1999, the game was scheduled on Oktoberfest. There was a very large contingent Wisky fans who went to both events that day, sadly for them they had to watch UC take down the Badgers 17-12.

There was a drunk Whisky fan who picked a fight with me at Nippert, lol. Fast forward to the 2000 final four in Indy, I saw him in a bar in Indy. Whisky was in the final four that year. If Whisky beat UC that year they might have in the BCS championship game.
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I am aware that during early American history, a significant number of German-descended homesteaders made their way down the Appalachians from Pennsylvania, but I have a hard time believing that they outnumbered the Scots-Irish. The latter ethnic group, by the way, were very inclusive and quickly absorbed other ethnicities (including Indians). This link confirms my thinking: http://www.wvencyclopedia.org/articles/202
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Went to New Braunfels, TX and mispronounced a street name recently and I got a German lesson
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(02-09-2016 09:24 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Went to New Braunfels, TX and mispronounced a street name recently and I got a German lesson

Next time tell them that your grandfather, the one that killed a bunch of the goose stepping bastards, taught to you how to pronounce german words.
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
(02-08-2016 03:57 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  So if that's the Wiener Schnitzel Conference, what would the Barbecue Conference look like?

ECU
Memphis
South Carolina
Kansas
Texas
Houston
UTEP
Alabama-Huntsville (unless UAB has white bbq sauce?)
St. Louis (non-football)
Santa Maria (non-football)
UT-RGV (non-football)

XII should add Memphis and ECU. Or maybe I should just go eat lunch.
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RE: UC is an excellent fit for the Big 12
(02-09-2016 09:04 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  I am aware that during early American history, a significant number of German-descended homesteaders made their way down the Appalachians from Pennsylvania, but I have a hard time believing that they outnumbered the Scots-Irish. The latter ethnic group, by the way, were very inclusive and quickly absorbed other ethnicities (including Indians). This link confirms my thinking: http://www.wvencyclopedia.org/articles/202

Appalachian Germans were largely peasants from the Palatine region who were drawn by English offers of free land in the early 1700s. English agents targeted peasants in Protestant areas thinking that they would be more loyal to England than Catholic France or Spain (note- Mexico would later recruit Irish Catholics to Texas due to the same logic - and it would have worked except they were massively outnumbered by illegal immigrants from the USA). Thus nearly all the German settlers in Appalachia were Protestant farmers, and it included many fringe movements such as the Mennonites. Few of Cincinnati's Germans are descended from this wave.

Cincinnati's German character began in the 1840s with the so-called forty-eighters. These were political refugees fleeing after the failed democratic uprisings throughout the German states in 1848. They were mostly liberal city-dwellers and represented a much broader spectrum of German society. About 30,000 of them settled in the Over-the-Rhine neighborhood, which was huge considering that the entire city had less than 80,000 residents at the time. This made the city effectively bilingual and turned it into a magnet for future German immigrants.
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I've been an advocate for Cincinnati and Memphis both to join the BigXII. That being said, I'm just not sure it'd be enough to save the BigXII long term.

I've also wished Houston well for quite some time, thinking they'd be a great addition to either the PAC or ACC...and, begrudgingly, I think UConn should land in a P5 conference as well.
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Listening to ESPN Austin and they're talking about Texas interviewing a running back's coach from Toledo one of the announcers said yeah he's been a good coach for Cincinnati the other guy goes no Toledo and they both say what's the difference?
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(02-09-2016 10:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(02-09-2016 09:24 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Went to New Braunfels, TX and mispronounced a street name recently and I got a German lesson

Next time tell them that your grandfather, the one that killed a bunch of the goose stepping bastards, taught to you how to pronounce german words.

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(02-09-2016 06:12 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(02-09-2016 10:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(02-09-2016 09:24 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Went to New Braunfels, TX and mispronounced a street name recently and I got a German lesson

Next time tell them that your grandfather, the one that killed a bunch of the goose stepping bastards, taught to you how to pronounce german words.

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Any way he wanted to pronounce them, amirite
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I remember Kuykendahl as a kid, pronounced 'Kur-ken-doll."
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