Has Pastner passed Kirk in Tiger wins? I'm finding it difficult to get matching totals from different sites on the internet.

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Well, after the question is answered. I was hoping the thread would get lost.

In honor of Dana, I BET that Josh has more wins.

Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

(02-07-2016 05:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

Thanks for compiling this.

Not a fair comparison, though. Kirk inherited a run-down program from Wayne Yates and had two sub-par years to start. He had us on a roll and in the national spotlight when he passed the keys to Finch. Pastner inherited a nationally recognized program with great recruiting potential/fan base and has run it into national irrelevancy. I've often wondered what our history would be if Kirk had stayed for another 10 years.

(02-07-2016 05:36 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 05:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

Thanks for compiling this.

Not a fair comparison, though. Kirk inherited a run-down program from Wayne Yates and had two sub-par years to start. He had us on a roll and in the national spotlight when he passed the keys to Finch. Pastner inherited a nationally recognized program with great recruiting potential/fan base and has run it into national irrelevancy. I've often wondered what our history would be if Kirk had stayed for another 10 years.

No doubt, Kirk is probably the best game coach in school history.

Pastner is trending down, Kirk was going up before he went to jail.

Similar time frame however.

(02-07-2016 05:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

Thanks

(02-07-2016 03:30 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  In honor of Dana, I BET that Josh has more wins.

Accent The Positive

Simply Amazing

(02-07-2016 05:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 05:36 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 05:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

Thanks for compiling this.

Not a fair comparison, though. Kirk inherited a run-down program from Wayne Yates and had two sub-par years to start. He had us on a roll and in the national spotlight when he passed the keys to Finch. Pastner inherited a nationally recognized program with great recruiting potential/fan base and has run it into national irrelevancy. I've often wondered what our history would be if Kirk had stayed for another 10 years.

No doubt, Kirk is probably the best game coach in school history.

Pastner is trending down, Kirk was going up before he went to jail.

Similar time frame however.

I know of two games that I would really dispute your assertion. Detroit and Villanova.

Could have just googled that

(02-07-2016 11:48 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Could have just googled that

The middle man is never appreciated.

(02-07-2016 07:25 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Simply Amazing

I used to have that book

(02-07-2016 11:48 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Could have just googled that

Could Google everything and not even need this board. Geez.

In comparison, The Tigers played in a much tougher Metro Conference back in the day compared to CUSA. After Dana's initial two 13-14 seasons he got it going with local mega stars.

(02-07-2016 05:36 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 05:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

Thanks for compiling this.

Not a fair comparison, though. Kirk inherited a run-down program from Wayne Yates and had two sub-par years to start. He had us on a roll and in the national spotlight when he passed the keys to Finch. Pastner inherited a nationally recognized program with great recruiting potential/fan base and has run it into national irrelevancy. I've often wondered what our history would be if Kirk had stayed for another 10 years.

Maybe Coach Pastner needs to learn the Shoe Box Recruiting Method

(02-07-2016 05:36 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 05:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

Thanks for compiling this.

Not a fair comparison, though. Kirk inherited a run-down program from Wayne Yates and had two sub-par years to start. He had us on a roll and in the national spotlight when he passed the keys to Finch. Pastner inherited a nationally recognized program with great recruiting potential/fan base and has run it into national irrelevancy. I've often wondered what our history would be if Kirk had stayed for another 10 years.

What are not in the stats for Dana is that '83/'84 seasons ended in S16 with losses to Oilguwan, Drexler and Phi Slamma Jamma group. In '87, we were a 3 seed I believe and NCAA paired us with LSU ON THEIR HOME FLOOR and I think their in house refs. Biggest disservice ever done to a team in NCAA history. Lost by 1 or 2.

I'm trying to avoid googling everything so maybe minor disreprancy.

(02-08-2016 11:36 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 05:36 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 05:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Kirk:

1979–80 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 4th
1980–81 Memphis State 13–14 5–7 5th
1981–82 Memphis State 24–5^^ 10–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1982–83 Memphis State 23–8^^ 6–6 4th NCAA Sweet 16^^
1983–84 Memphis State 26–7^^ 11–3 T-1st NCAA Sweet 16^^
1984–85 Memphis State 31–4^^ 13–1 1st NCAA Final Four^^
1985–86 Memphis State 28–6^^ 9–3 2nd NCAA 2nd Round^^
Memphis State: 158–58 59–29


Pastner:

Memphis Tigers (Conference USA) (2009–2013)
2009–10 Memphis 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT Second Round
2010–11 Memphis 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Round of 64
2011–12 Memphis 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Round of 64
2012–13 Memphis 31–5 16–0 1st NCAA Round of 32

Memphis Tigers (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Memphis 24–10 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2014–15 Memphis 18–14 10–8 T–5th
2015–16 Memphis 14–9 5–5

Memphis: 161–64 (.717) 78–28 (.740)

Thanks for compiling this.

Not a fair comparison, though. Kirk inherited a run-down program from Wayne Yates and had two sub-par years to start. He had us on a roll and in the national spotlight when he passed the keys to Finch. Pastner inherited a nationally recognized program with great recruiting potential/fan base and has run it into national irrelevancy. I've often wondered what our history would be if Kirk had stayed for another 10 years.

What are not in the stats for Dana is that '83/'84 seasons ended in S16 with losses to Oilguwan, Drexler and Phi Slamma Jamma group. In '87, we were a 3 seed I believe and NCAA paired us with LSU ON THEIR HOME FLOOR and I think their in house refs. Biggest disservice ever done to a team in NCAA history. Lost by 1 or 2.

I'm trying to avoid googling everything so maybe minor disreprancy.

Yea that LSU made the final 4 as an 11 seed, the first to ever do it. The 84 houston team didnt have drexler, and in fact watching that game it looked like Kirk lost on purpose.

Amazing how great a coach Dana became as soon as Keith Lee got here.