(02-07-2016 09:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 09:26 PM)GoJMUDukes Wrote:  If Keatts, as the recruiting coordinator, can truly say that he had no idea what was going on during his recruits visits, then something is wrong. Maybe he didn't know the full extent of it, but there's no way he could've been completely clueless to it.

Is he supposed to tuck them in at night and lock them in the dorm on his way out?

Basketball staffs even at places like Louisville are relatively small as compared to Football coaching staffs I tend to think someone on staff knew what was going on. Would you be surprised if this type of conversation took place between a recruiting coordinator and a grad assistant who is helping "host" the players? "Make sure you show them a good time" ?

So you think a grad assistant who wasn't really measured by recruiting and I don't even think is supposed to be recruiting just on his own paid money (where did he get the money? grad assistants don't make anything) without anyone else related to the program knowing?

Or do you think the more likely scenario is that the full time staff or head coach or maybe a rogue booster or two used the grad assistant so that it couldn't be traced back to them?

Is Pitino a guy you would say has integrity? Not to use a personal incident against him but wasn't he involved in a shake down with a woman at a local restaurant after hours because of an affair? All these guys- Boeheim- claimed he didn't know- Larry Brown claimed he didn't know- yet they all if you look have multiple incidents- they know and their lieutenants in many cases probably know as well.

(02-08-2016 05:04 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 09:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 09:26 PM)GoJMUDukes Wrote:  If Keatts, as the recruiting coordinator, can truly say that he had no idea what was going on during his recruits visits, then something is wrong. Maybe he didn't know the full extent of it, but there's no way he could've been completely clueless to it.

Is he supposed to tuck them in at night and lock them in the dorm on his way out?

Basketball staffs even at places like Louisville are relatively small as compared to Football coaching staffs I tend to think someone on staff knew what was going on. Would you be surprised if this type of conversation took place between a recruiting coordinator and a grad assistant who is helping "host" the players? "Make sure you show them a good time" ?

So you think a grad assistant who wasn't really measured by recruiting and I don't even think is supposed to be recruiting just on his own paid money (where did he get the money? grad assistants don't make anything) without anyone else related to the program knowing?

Or do you think the more likely scenario is that the full time staff or head coach or maybe a rogue booster or two used the grad assistant so that it couldn't be traced back to them?

Is Pitino a guy you would say has integrity? Not to use a personal incident against him but wasn't he involved in a shake down with a woman at a local restaurant after hours because of an affair? All these guys- Boeheim- claimed he didn't know- Larry Brown claimed he didn't know- yet they all if you look have multiple incidents- they know and their lieutenants in many cases probably know as well.

I don't think the other shoe has dropped yet, and when it does I'll be very surprised if Pitino isn't forced out. Perhaps an early "retirement" or some such. I also wouldn't be surprised to see the NCAA place some sort of penalty on any of the coaches who were on staff the time....and that those sanctioned extend to the schools who might employ them. Pearl paid a heavy price, and his transgression just involved extending an invitation to free BBQ during the recruiting process.

(02-08-2016 05:04 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 09:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 09:26 PM)GoJMUDukes Wrote:  If Keatts, as the recruiting coordinator, can truly say that he had no idea what was going on during his recruits visits, then something is wrong. Maybe he didn't know the full extent of it, but there's no way he could've been completely clueless to it.

Is he supposed to tuck them in at night and lock them in the dorm on his way out?

Basketball staffs even at places like Louisville are relatively small as compared to Football coaching staffs I tend to think someone on staff knew what was going on. Would you be surprised if this type of conversation took place between a recruiting coordinator and a grad assistant who is helping "host" the players? "Make sure you show them a good time" ?

So you think a grad assistant who wasn't really measured by recruiting and I don't even think is supposed to be recruiting just on his own paid money (where did he get the money? grad assistants don't make anything) without anyone else related to the program knowing?

Or do you think the more likely scenario is that the full time staff or head coach or maybe a rogue booster or two used the grad assistant so that it couldn't be traced back to them?

Is Pitino a guy you would say has integrity? Not to use a personal incident against him but wasn't he involved in a shake down with a woman at a local restaurant after hours because of an affair? All these guys- Boeheim- claimed he didn't know- Larry Brown claimed he didn't know- yet they all if you look have multiple incidents- they know and their lieutenants in many cases probably know as well.

You must not have read the article.

Someone on staff, the director if basketball operations, knew what was going on. He was a 6 figure employee. Also in the article it showed journal entries from the woman who pimped out her underage daughters (allegedly) it stated she believed it was his money being used which is why when it came to payment she felt sorry for him and allowed for payment after the fact and alternative payment methods such as tickets.

All evidence available at this time shows that this is one employee who went rogue.

(02-07-2016 10:42 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 01:41 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 10:19 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Bingo. Any UNCW fan that posts on here otherwise loses all credibility. The entire staff had to know.

Yep. I'm sure every bad thing you ever did in your house growing up your parents were aware of, right?

We'll take our "loss of credibility" all the way to enjoying our top of the CAA finish... AGAIN.

Then enjoy your seat at the back of the short bus.
Bragging about being on top in this CAA (sans GMU, VCU and ODU) is like being the smartest kid on the short bus.

(02-08-2016 12:41 AM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 10:42 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  Bragging about being on top in this CAA (sans GMU, VCU and ODU) is like being the smartest kid on the short bus.

7 of the 10 CAA teams are ranked above ODU and George Mason. W&M is ranked ahead of VCU. The CAA is 9th in RPI out of 32 conferences right now and one of only 7 conferences (again, out of 32) with half the teams in the top 100 RPI.

Sooo...you were saying...

Don't let your pesky facts and figures get in the way of HolyCity's narrative.

Historically and I mean since the CAA was formed, there have been far more years when the conference RPI was greater than #9 than it was #9. I think it was #8 the year three teams received invitations and VCU went to the final four. Interesting that the best year in history now has become the measuring stick and the rest of the years are the CAA being the "smartest kid on the short bus".

The conference is very good this year. Some on hear are blind to that fact. CAA basketball is better than the MAC, CUSA and SB but let's not let facts get in the way of emotion.

(02-08-2016 10:44 AM)bjk3047 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:41 AM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 10:42 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  Bragging about being on top in this CAA (sans GMU, VCU and ODU) is like being the smartest kid on the short bus.

7 of the 10 CAA teams are ranked above ODU and George Mason. W&M is ranked ahead of VCU. The CAA is 9th in RPI out of 32 conferences right now and one of only 7 conferences (again, out of 32) with half the teams in the top 100 RPI.

Sooo...you were saying...

Don't let your pesky facts and figures get in the way of HolyCity's narrative.

Sadly, facts mean less than perception and the perception is that the CAA is awful due to the horrible seeding in the tournament since the big 3 have left. When it comes to Low Mid-Majors (the CAA being one of them), no one cares unless a team is on a Cinderella run in the NCAA tourney.

(02-09-2016 12:06 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 10:44 AM)bjk3047 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:41 AM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 10:42 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  Bragging about being on top in this CAA (sans GMU, VCU and ODU) is like being the smartest kid on the short bus.

7 of the 10 CAA teams are ranked above ODU and George Mason. W&M is ranked ahead of VCU. The CAA is 9th in RPI out of 32 conferences right now and one of only 7 conferences (again, out of 32) with half the teams in the top 100 RPI.

Sooo...you were saying...

Don't let your pesky facts and figures get in the way of HolyCity's narrative.

Sadly, facts mean less than perception and the perception is that the CAA is awful due to the horrible seeding in the tournament since the big 3 have left. When it comes to Low Mid-Majors (the CAA being one of them), no one cares unless a team is on a Cinderella run in the NCAA tourney.

This is very true, not only to the layman like myself, but also to the NCAA. I will say that if the CAA can continue and get off to a hot start again for a couple more seasons, this perception will change.

I realize we live in a different time, but I firmly believe this is what got JMU the At Large birth in 1982. Of course it didn't hurt that we had just won 23 games and made it to the finals of the ECAC. The preceding season we had made the NCAA's winning the first game and losing in the second. Consistency is very important.

(02-09-2016 12:06 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 10:44 AM)bjk3047 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:41 AM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 10:42 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  Bragging about being on top in this CAA (sans GMU, VCU and ODU) is like being the smartest kid on the short bus.

7 of the 10 CAA teams are ranked above ODU and George Mason. W&M is ranked ahead of VCU. The CAA is 9th in RPI out of 32 conferences right now and one of only 7 conferences (again, out of 32) with half the teams in the top 100 RPI.

Sooo...you were saying...

Don't let your pesky facts and figures get in the way of HolyCity's narrative.

Sadly, facts mean less than perception and the perception is that the CAA is awful due to the horrible seeding in the tournament since the big 3 have left. When it comes to Low Mid-Majors (the CAA being one of them), no one cares unless a team is on a Cinderella run in the NCAA tourney.

IMO mid major seeds in the NCAA at #12 through #14. Low majors are #15 and #16. You're right in 2012-13 JMU was really a low major in terms of seeding- they weren't a great team but it was nice just to get back to the big dance.

In the new format the #11 are for the last 4 in (at large) and generally #10 or less are for bigger conference teams or major teams from mid major conferences (i.e. Gonzaga, Wichita State). I don't consider the A-10 a mid major basketball league even though they don't sponsor Football (same with Big East obviously).

The last 2 CAA champions Delaware in 2013-14 (#13 seed vs. Mich State) and Northeastern in 14-15 (#14 seed against Notre Dame) would indicate that the CAA is on solid footing as a mid-major league (back to how things used to be before VCU and Mason had big runs in years past).

The projections this year show another #14 seed. Keep in mind that while the CAA this year doesn't have an extraordinary team they have a lot more depth than other mid-major leagues at the top- meaning that depending on how Championship weeks plays out I think the CAA has a good chance of maintaining a #14 seed (assuming 1 of 5 or 6 teams wins the conference tourney) or even improving on the seed if some other favorites from mid major conferences lose in their conference tournaments.

Older article but still relevant
When will he be forced to speak ?

http://www.cardchronicle.com/2015/10/22/...d-to-speak