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http://wavy.com/2016/02/05/will-va-beach...ll-league/

I feel this is on topic because:

1. it could badly damage our recruiting grounds over time

Sure, some private league(s) will probably emerge, but will likely to be very expensive and the pool of kids to play (if mom will let them) will resemble the pool of kids that play lacrosse. There is no middle school football. So many VB kids could have their first opportunity to play football in 9th grade.

2. how long before football itself becomes a thing of the past?

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. It is another big risk in building. At best, the game is going to change dramatically. Are 20,000+ people going to show up to watch a watered down version of football that more resembles flag football than the game that reached peak popularity 5-10 years ago?

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It has nothing to do with "mommy's", letting kids play football. This is fast becoming a serious national problem. Brain injuries are now becoming much better understood. You have to look no further then CUSA to see it's already affecting teams. It's no longer a matter of just saying, "man he just had his bell rung." It took me all of 3 mins just to find these articles. I would not be surprised if we even play football in 25 years. There are a zillion more articles.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...t-football

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/sports....html?_r=0

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/art...01703.html

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ury-112215

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/25-y...efe0db8c87

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/health/fre...ll-player/

(02-06-2016 07:41 AM)mac Wrote:  It has nothing to do with "mommy's", letting kids play football. This is fast becoming a serious national problem. Brain injuries are now becoming much better understood. You have to look no further then CUSA to see it's already affecting teams. It's no longer a matter of just saying, "man he just had his bell rung." It took me all of 3 mins just to find these articles. I would not be surprised if we even play football in 25 years. There are a zillion more articles.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...t-football

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/sports....html?_r=0

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/art...01703.html

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ury-112215

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/25-y...efe0db8c87

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/health/fre...ll-player/

I don't disagree that it could be gone, which is my point. Right now though it is mom won't let me play (this is even happening in my house). Is building a new stadium a concern for anyone other than me given the sport is probably on decline? Are we buying a house in 2008 right before the bottom falls out of the housing market? It may be much sooner than 25 years as well. It could be next month if something big happens in a big setting like someone dying on the field at the Super Bowl.

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Problem is most fans just don't care much about this stuff. Too serious. Just tell them what time the tailgate party starts or who we just recruited to be the quarterback and what are the new players rankings. That's what's important.

"I don't disagree that it could be gone, which is my point. Right now though it is mom won't let me play (this is even happening in my house). Is building a new stadium a concern for anyone other than me given the sport is probably on decline? Are we buying a house in 2008 right before the bottom falls out of the housing market? It may be much sooner than 25 years as well. It could be next month if something big happens in a big setting like someone dying on the field at the Super Bowl."

Not to be callous, but players have died playing football since the game was invented; it was just such a thing that led to the passage of rules allowing the forward pass. Players have been severely injured, paralyzed, playing the game. VT is at the forefront of researching better, more shock-resistant helmets. The game will go on. To not build a stadium now for something that MAY happen 25 or 50 years from now is, to be blunt, stupid. And to think if that were to happen, ODU administrators wouldn't be able to figure a way to re-purpose the stadium, is also stupid. You don't want the stadium; we get it.

Football is too ingrained in the American psyche and the economy to go away without a series of fights. Teddy Roosevelt brought in coaches from Harvard, Yale and Princeton in 1905 to reduce the brutality of the sport — 45 players died because of football-related injuries from 1900-1905. It's a fool's folly to presume that football won't be forced to consider and implement significant changes, but it would be equally as foolhardy to presume that this latest batch of revelations will kill the sport dead.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...g-in-1905/

Yep. CBS is pulling in $4.5 million for every 30 second commercial tomorrow evening. Football isn't going anywhere.

(02-06-2016 10:56 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Football is too ingrained in the American psyche and the economy to go away without a series of fights. Teddy Roosevelt brought in coaches from Harvard, Yale and Princeton in 1905 to reduce the brutality of the sport — 45 players died because of football-related injuries from 1900-1905. It's a fool's folly to presume that football won't be forced to consider and implement significant changes, but it would be equally as foolhardy to presume that this latest batch of revelations will kill the sport dead.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...g-in-1905/

The issue is not so much college and professional football; where it is all about vast amounts of money.

Football is indeed in danger because there will come a time when liability costs (insurance, litigation) will far outweigh any benefit to youth associations and public and private schools.
At that point football will be eliminated, and as such there will be very few kids left to feed the college and pro ranks.

Either protective technology must advance, or as pointed out above, there must be a fundamental change in the way football is played, or it will die.

I believe that this is going to happen much sooner than later.

(02-06-2016 10:50 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  "I don't disagree that it could be gone, which is my point. Right now though it is mom won't let me play (this is even happening in my house). Is building a new stadium a concern for anyone other than me given the sport is probably on decline? Are we buying a house in 2008 right before the bottom falls out of the housing market? It may be much sooner than 25 years as well. It could be next month if something big happens in a big setting like someone dying on the field at the Super Bowl."

Not to be callous, but players have died playing football since the game was invented; it was just such a thing that led to the passage of rules allowing the forward pass. Players have been severely injured, paralyzed, playing the game. VT is at the forefront of researching better, more shock-resistant helmets. The game will go on. To not build a stadium now for something that MAY happen 25 or 50 years from now is, to be blunt, stupid. And to think if that were to happen, ODU administrators wouldn't be able to figure a way to re-purpose the stadium, is also stupid. You don't want the stadium; we get it.

My heart wants the stadium, believe me, but I think it will be a money pit that we may not recover from. I also want a waterfront house and a new boat with a couple of jet skis. I am not sold that it is needed and a lot luck and events beyond our control would need to fall into place for the numbers to work.

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Damn soccer yuppies!!!! It all started in the 90s here in Chesapeake turning ball fields in to soccer fields.

Seems I read somewhere that contrary to perception, soccer players have just as many concussions as football players.

They jump in the air and slam heads at each other to hit the ball... I'd guess just as many of not more.

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(02-06-2016 07:55 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  They jump in the air and slam heads at each other to hit the ball... I'd guess just as many of not more.

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There's also the repeated practice of heading balls at a young age while your brain is still developing. Soccer is definitely worse for your head. Football is worse for your whole body. But neither should be that surprising.

And if that's not enougj, many believe playing soccer on astroturf causes cancer. It's the recycled tires they use. Apparently goalies are the most susceptible.

EVERYONE SHOULD STOP PLAYING ALL SPORTS IMMEDIATELY!!! It WILL kill you.

(02-09-2016 10:18 AM)MonarchCAM Wrote:  EVERYONE SHOULD STOP PLAYING ALL SPORTS IMMEDIATELY!!! It WILL kill you.

Furthermore everyone should stop doing everything immediately.

(02-09-2016 10:40 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:18 AM)MonarchCAM Wrote:  EVERYONE SHOULD STOP PLAYING ALL SPORTS IMMEDIATELY!!! It WILL kill you.

Furthermore everyone should stop doing everything immediately.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!

I read eating french fries causes cancer. But, I'm willing to take that risk

(02-09-2016 01:02 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:40 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:18 AM)MonarchCAM Wrote:  EVERYONE SHOULD STOP PLAYING ALL SPORTS IMMEDIATELY!!! It WILL kill you.

Furthermore everyone should stop doing everything immediately.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!

Well yes, I think we all agree you are safe with that call.

We all need to get in plastic bubbles immediately!

(02-09-2016 02:42 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  We all need to get in plastic bubbles immediately!

NO WAY! Plastic will give you cancer, silly!