http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016...icans.html

First, our fracking industry is almost dead. The U.S. fracking and oil industry is downsizing. These are great paying jobs.

Second, this will just increase prices to the consumers paying higher gas prices.

Third, we don't need to build high speed trains from LA to Las Vegas.

Fourth, Our crumbling infrastructure needs repairs. Roads and bridges are in disarray. Rauner is proposing a "use tax" by converting I55 to a toll road. They have already converted Elgin O'Hare to I390 and will soon begin charging tolls.

Just another way to bring down U.S. businesses.

(02-05-2016 02:07 PM)klake87 Wrote:  http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016...icans.html

First, our fracking industry is almost dead. The U.S. fracking and oil industry is downsizing. These are great paying jobs.

Second, this will just increase prices to the consumers paying higher gas prices.

Third, we don't need to build high speed trains from LA to Las Vegas.

Fourth, Our crumbling infrastructure needs repairs. Roads and bridges are in disarray. Rauner is proposing a "use tax" by converting I55 to a toll road. They have already converted Elgin O'Hare to I390 and will soon begin charging tolls.

Just another way to bring down U.S. businesses.

Thanks Ted.

This really won't have any effect on the oil industry since the global price per barrel isn't really affected by what happens in the states. One of the biggest reasons we have crumbling infrastructure is because gas tax hasn't been raised in years people are short sighted and irrational. I want roads! I don't want to pay for them!

I actually don't have much of a problem with the concept.

Well that did not take long. As soon as prices start to go down the chosen one sees an opportunity to raise taxes, and of course Moe, Larry and Curly are all for it.

(02-05-2016 02:07 PM)klake87 Wrote:  First, our fracking industry is almost dead.

This is a good thing.

(02-06-2016 12:47 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I actually don't have much of a problem with the concept.

Neither do I. Clean energy is the future. My next vehicle will likely be an EV, especially if Tesla can deliver their new model at the $35,000 price they're shooting for.

This will have an adverse affect on manufacturing jobs. The cost of energy and products (many oil based) will make manufacturing in the U.S. even more expensive. To compete, businesses will have to cut wages/workers and be more efficient.

The DOD has said climate change will have negative strategic repercussions. That alone should have conservatives on the same page in regards enviornmental concerns. Clean energy is about more than the environment, it is about national security as well.

(02-05-2016 10:04 PM)niuguy Wrote:  This really won't have any effect on the oil industry since the global price per barrel isn't really affected by what happens in the states. One of the biggest reasons we have crumbling infrastructure is because gas tax hasn't been raised in years people are short sighted and irrational. I want roads! I don't want to pay for them!

That is an ignorant comment MULTI BILLION TAX won't have effect. WOW.

Prices drop and rise in a commodity business. We find the oil industry in death spiral of deflation and the BIG GOVERNMENT want the peoples money.

You want better roads , STOP STEALING the money. Stop voting for people who over promise with another's money...i.e. pension benefits./ requirement benefits, and when a neighbor or friend raise the suggestion remind him of how weak he is for wanting something out of another's efforts.

http://www.ranken-energy.com/products%20...roleum.htm

Here is a list of items made with oil. We just don't just use for gas.

(02-10-2016 08:41 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  The DOD has said climate change will have negative strategic repercussions. That alone should have conservatives on the same page in regards enviornmental concerns. Clean energy is about more than the environment, it is about national security as well.

The DOD is, merely, acting on the latest executive order (13653) from our Witchdoctor-and-Chief, who would rather fight the fictitious global warming boogeyman than any of our actual enemies who actually kill Americans.

I can't believe how many Planeteers actually fall for this bullcrap.

(02-11-2016 10:18 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 08:41 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  The DOD has said climate change will have negative strategic repercussions. That alone should have conservatives on the same page in regards enviornmental concerns. Clean energy is about more than the environment, it is about national security as well.

The DOD is, merely, acting on the latest executive order (13653) from our Witchdoctor-and-Chief, who would rather fight the fictitious global warming boogeyman than any of our actual enemies who actually kill Americans.

I can't believe how many Planeteers actually fall for this bullcrap.

And what if you are wrong and the US is put at a strategic disadvantage? Wanna risk that? Cool.

(02-11-2016 12:46 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 10:18 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 08:41 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  The DOD has said climate change will have negative strategic repercussions. That alone should have conservatives on the same page in regards enviornmental concerns. Clean energy is about more than the environment, it is about national security as well.

The DOD is, merely, acting on the latest executive order (13653) from our Witchdoctor-and-Chief, who would rather fight the fictitious global warming boogeyman than any of our actual enemies who actually kill Americans.

I can't believe how many Planeteers actually fall for this bullcrap.

And what if you are wrong and the US is put at a strategic disadvantage? Wanna risk that? Cool.

All over some jobs in a flagging industry that will likely become a minority energy producer over the next century.

What's old adage, adapt or die?

(02-05-2016 10:04 PM)niuguy Wrote:  This really won't have any effect on the oil industry since the global price per barrel isn't really affected by what happens in the states. One of the biggest reasons we have crumbling infrastructure is because gas tax hasn't been raised in years people are short sighted and irrational. I want roads! I don't want to pay for them!

You obviously don't work in the petrochemical industry....or any manufacturing sector job.

(02-11-2016 09:35 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 10:04 PM)niuguy Wrote:  This really won't have any effect on the oil industry since the global price per barrel isn't really affected by what happens in the states. One of the biggest reasons we have crumbling infrastructure is because gas tax hasn't been raised in years people are short sighted and irrational. I want roads! I don't want to pay for them!

You obviously don't work in the petrochemical industry....or any manufacturing sector job.

Our manufacturing sector is going away. These are the jobs government should be trying to create. By putting an excise tax on oil, you are further creating a disadvantage for manufacturing jobs in the U.S. More will be lost. Then we will have to import even more products.

(02-11-2016 09:35 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 10:04 PM)niuguy Wrote:  This really won't have any effect on the oil industry since the global price per barrel isn't really affected by what happens in the states. One of the biggest reasons we have crumbling infrastructure is because gas tax hasn't been raised in years people are short sighted and irrational. I want roads! I don't want to pay for them!

You obviously don't work in the petrochemical industry....or any manufacturing sector job.

Does it count if who I work for REPRESENTS manufacturing industries?

Our members complain about taxes, no doubt, but they also beg the government to spend money on infrastructure. Whatchyagonnado

(02-11-2016 10:18 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 08:41 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  The DOD has said climate change will have negative strategic repercussions. That alone should have conservatives on the same page in regards enviornmental concerns. Clean energy is about more than the environment, it is about national security as well.

The DOD is, merely, acting on the latest executive order (13653) from our Witchdoctor-and-Chief, who would rather fight the fictitious global warming boogeyman than any of our actual enemies who actually kill Americans.

I can't believe how many Planeteers actually fall for this bullcrap.

Wow. That's scary ignorant. I'm embarrassed for you.

Yay! Let's keep fracking!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/13/us/oklahom...index.html

(02-11-2016 10:18 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  fictitious global warming

Do you also belong to the flat earth society?