(02-05-2016 03:45 PM)HiTiger Wrote:  The ones that have bashed JP for the past couple of years are now simply gloating about the fact. No one is happy about the team failing, just people that are trying to all say "Look, I told you so about JP."

Probably because they were the very ones getting crucified on here before for questioning JP.

(02-05-2016 01:46 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 01:43 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  do we hate Coach Pastner now? I'm trying to figure out who is or isn't on the mt.org hate list. thanks in advance

In order, we hate:

Calipari
Austin Nichols
Mark Nichols
Nichol's lawyer
Spoon
Cyprien
Sallie
Garcia
Niles
Willis Wilson
Tarik
Skal
Kuran
The Masked Trainer
The big man assistant that lasted one year
Calkins
Vernon
Parrish
btiger
Goodman
Katz
Seth Davis
Gottlieb
Referees, all of 'em

May be missing someone.

Kroger for having a UTK display.
Ron Tillery
Black jerseys
Thaddeus Young
Lapides
Derrick Rose
Mario Chalmers
Mike Conley
Greg Odom
Nolan Richardson
The Memphis Grizzlies
Shawn Taggert
Willie Kemp
Andre Allen
Derrick Chew

I don't delight in Pastner's fall, because he hasn't fallen anywhere. He's the same clown he was when we hired him. His inadequacies have just finally caught up to the program. Lots of people saw them even in the so called "good years" of his tenure. And lots of people ignored them or were too ignorant to see them. Unfortunately for CJP, his shortcomings as a coach have bubbled to the surface for everyone to see.

I have some delight in the fact that the people in power are finally being pushed to the point where they can't ignore how bad a coach he is no matter how good a human he may be. I am finally hopeful that they may be forced to find someone who can get the program back on track. I would take great delight in being able to root for a team that doesn't play the Pastner brand of AAU vomit offense, matador man defense, and soft zones that always leave the backdoor cut wide open. It would be nice to see some real basketball again.

(02-05-2016 04:46 PM)TJT Wrote:  I don't delight in Pastner's fall, because he hasn't fallen anywhere. He's the same clown he was when we hired him. His inadequacies have just finally caught up to the program. Lots of people saw them even in the so called "good years" of his tenure. And lots of people ignored them or were too ignorant to see them. Unfortunately for CJP, his shortcomings as a coach have bubbled to the surface for everyone to see.

I have some delight in the fact that the people in power are finally being pushed to the point where they can't ignore how bad a coach he is no matter how good a human he may be. I am finally hopeful that they may be forced to find someone who can get the program back on track. I would take great delight in being able to root for a team that doesn't play the Pastner brand of AAU vomit offense, matador man defense, and soft zones that always leave the backdoor cut wide open. It would be nice to see some real basketball again.

Close thread.

(02-05-2016 04:46 PM)TJT Wrote:  I don't delight in Pastner's fall, because he hasn't fallen anywhere. He's the same clown he was when we hired him. His inadequacies have just finally caught up to the program. Lots of people saw them even in the so called "good years" of his tenure. And lots of people ignored them or were too ignorant to see them. Unfortunately for CJP, his shortcomings as a coach have bubbled to the surface for everyone to see.

I have some delight in the fact that the people in power are finally being pushed to the point where they can't ignore how bad a coach he is no matter how good a human he may be. I am finally hopeful that they may be forced to find someone who can get the program back on track. I would take great delight in being able to root for a team that doesn't play the Pastner brand of AAU vomit offense, matador man defense, and soft zones that always leave the backdoor cut wide open. It would be nice to see some real basketball again.

Right.

Pastner hasn't fallen, the program has.

He's set to make $10.6 million no matter what happens, but if he and the University part ways, I imagine he will be employed somewhere else soon thereafter as well.

He hasn't fallen at all.

In fact, he's pretty set up for life at this point.

I'm not happy at all that Josh is having problems, he is a fine individual and I was vertical happy when he was named head coach. My thinking was his age would help him relate to the young men he would coach. Unfortunately it seems he has lost control of the program. I know he will do well with another program.

(02-05-2016 12:00 PM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  What a stupid thread. Those that you label "miserables" are miserable because the program is miserable. If Pastner succeeds, then the program succeeds and everyone is happy. The problem is that he's not capable and he's proven it. No one takes delight in this.

Look who started it.

(02-05-2016 12:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 11:58 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  For once I agree with you. A little empathy for a young man who looks in the mirror every morning and now has to question his ability to be successful at the only thing he's ever wanted to do with his life would be appropriate. It's not as if he set out to destroy the program. Any responsible manager I ever had took the attitude that if I failed the failure was more on them than me. He was set up to fail from the get go.

Pastner has taken Memphis to 4 NCAAs and an NIT...and won 160 games in 7 seasons (and counting)

I say that because Pastner can, and most likely will, land on his feet with that on his resume.

go be an asst for Cal and UK, or Willis Wilson and TXAM-CC...Pastner needs to be a HC somewhere like Rice or Harvard where he can win 18-20 games, graduate kids, have a high APR, and that will be good enough for them...he's shown he can do that, and that will get him another HC gig some day.

He couldn't get out of the 2nd round with junior and senior laden teams filled to the brim with top 50 recruits, what on earth gives you the idea he could win with players he could recruit to Rice or Harvard? He would be a total disaster at programs like that.

(02-05-2016 01:46 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 01:43 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  do we hate Coach Pastner now? I'm trying to figure out who is or isn't on the mt.org hate list. thanks in advance

In order, we hate:

Calipari
Austin Nichols
Mark Nichols
Nichol's lawyer
Spoon
Cyprien
Sallie
Garcia
Niles
Willis Wilson
Tarik
Skal
Kuran
The Masked Trainer
The big man assistant that lasted one year
Calkins
Vernon
Parrish
btiger
Goodman
Katz
Seth Davis
Gottlieb
Referees, all of 'em

May be missing someone.

You are good at lists.

You also use a lot of data.

(02-05-2016 11:07 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 09:44 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  ....He likely wont' succeed at any hc job.......

He is a much better coach today than he was the day we hired him. His best bet is to get a fresh start (away from negativity) with a head coaching job at a lower tier program and work his way back up. I will not be surprised to see him make some AD look pretty smart in the future.

Man, I have defended you on occasion, but this is literally one of the dumbest, most out of touch with reality posts I have ever read on this board (especially the bolded part).

Jesus H Christ.

Shoot me in the face.

(02-05-2016 02:46 PM)fsquid Wrote:  A patriot league team would be smart to roll the die on him.

Uh, no they wouldn't.

A guy who can't make tourney runs with senior laden rosters full of top 50 recruits and McDonalds AA's

A guy who can't motivate players properly

A guy who can't gameplan

A guy who almost always comes out on the short end of halftime adjustments

What in the hell makes some of you people think THAT guy would win at some low level school with zero built in advantages like a Memphis program playing in CUSA?

(02-05-2016 12:27 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  Maybe Josh will pull a Quin Snyder, dude was a disaster at Missouri, took a team filled with talent and ran it into mediocrity.

Then, after going back to the drawing board and working his tail off in the D League, he ends up with an NBA Head Coaching gig.

Quin Snyder took Missouri to an Elite 8.

Josh couldn't hold Snyder's jock as a college coach.

(02-05-2016 04:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 01:46 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 01:43 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  do we hate Coach Pastner now? I'm trying to figure out who is or isn't on the mt.org hate list. thanks in advance

In order, we hate:

Calipari
Austin Nichols
Mark Nichols
Nichol's lawyer
Spoon
Cyprien
Sallie
Garcia
Niles
Willis Wilson
Tarik
Skal
Kuran
The Masked Trainer
The big man assistant that lasted one year
Calkins
Vernon
Parrish
btiger
Goodman
Katz
Seth Davis
Gottlieb
Referees, all of 'em

May be missing someone.

Kroger for having a UTK display.
Ron Tillery
Black jerseys
Thaddeus Young
Lapides
Derrick Rose
Mario Chalmers
Mike Conley
Greg Odom
Nolan Richardson
The Memphis Grizzlies
Shawn Taggert
Willie Kemp
Andre Allen
Derrick Chew

Well, Ron Tillery deserves it. He's a human POS.

"Memphis is a poor sports town. I don't say anything I can't repeat. Memphis is a poor sports town."

(02-05-2016 05:41 PM)memphisike Wrote:  I'm not happy at all that Josh is having problems, he is a fine individual and I was vertical happy when he was named head coach. My thinking was his age would help him relate to the young men he would coach. Unfortunately it seems he has lost control of the program. I know he will do well with another program.

Yeah, but can Opie bust a trey!!

(02-05-2016 09:33 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 11:07 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 09:44 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  ....He likely wont' succeed at any hc job.......

He is a much better coach today than he was the day we hired him.

Man, I have defended you on occasion, but this is literally one of the dumbest, most out of touch with reality posts I have ever read on this board (especially the bolded part).

Agreed.
Going from OK, to so-so, to not so good, to bad, to really bad, to horrible, to can't Freakin coach here anymore.

Might as well face this guy just doesn't have what it takes to be a successful coach at this level. He would probably be a pretty good high school coach.

I blame Jack Murphy. No I don't. I actually like him.

Nobody hates pastner. Those of us who love the Tigers hate the fact we are now nationally irrelevant in college basketball. We are at a very extreme low point and it could be another 5 years before that corner has turned.

It's just time for pastner to go. Those who saw it early know he should have been gone a few years ago.

#quagmire

(02-05-2016 03:49 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 03:45 PM)HiTiger Wrote:  The ones that have bashed JP for the past couple of years are now simply gloating about the fact. No one is happy about the team failing, just people that are trying to all say "Look, I told you so about JP."

Probably because they were the very ones getting crucified on here before for questioning JP.

Some of the same people who are calling him a bad coach and calling for him to be fired.....

Not that long ago those same people would berate and ridicule and openly ask mods to ban folks who criticized Pastner.

Things like "why do we allow trolls like this on the board....MODS?"

Now those same clowns finally realize what some of us have been saying for 3 or 4 years.

Hypocrites.

They could have had the decency to just throw in the towel and bail like some of the other Opie fluffers who just stopped posting when things really started going south. (I could name names, so many names)

I was banned for a year for what a lot of you people are saying now. I guess it's all about timing for those who make the decisions here.

Welcome to the party. I've been here a while and saved you a seat.

(02-05-2016 01:46 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 01:43 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  do we hate Coach Pastner now? I'm trying to figure out who is or isn't on the mt.org hate list. thanks in advance

In order, we hate:

Calipari
Austin Nichols
Mark Nichols
Nichol's lawyer
Spoon
Cyprien
Sallie
Garcia
Niles
Willis Wilson
Tarik
Skal
Kuran
The Masked Trainer
The big man assistant that lasted one year
Calkins
Vernon
Parrish
btiger
Goodman
Katz
Seth Davis
Gottlieb
Referees, all of 'em

May be missing someone.

LOL.....That's funny.