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Five Year, G5 Recruiting Analysis
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CUSA CUSA!!!
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RE: Five Year, G5 Recruiting Analysis
These ratings are all 247 composite. All conferences are comprised of their current format, I.e. each year consists of the same teams, regardless of where that team actually was that year

The "Real Conference" Comparisons are an analysis of the conference recruiting as the conferences stood then, i.e. 2012 ('11 football season) was with WVU, Rutgers, Louisville, etc.

An observation:

The winner of each NY6 bowl berth, and their entire conference, saw a substantial uptick in recruiting on average
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lol some of you guys have waaaaay too much time on your hands.
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(02-04-2016 02:39 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol some of you guys have waaaaay too much time on your hands.

Lol this took all of 15 minutes.
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(02-04-2016 02:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:39 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol some of you guys have waaaaay too much time on your hands.

Lol this took all of 15 minutes.

He mad about Cincy's 8th place finish in 247 recruiting
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Excellent post. Was hoping someone would create a comparison. The separation has clearly begun. A quick look at Cusa for example and the top team in terms of star rating percentage would be in 7th or 8th in the Aac.

CUSA new contract is going to a game changer for them in the wrong direction,including recruiting.
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In the 2011-2012 season the BCS AQ designation was the dividing line in recruiting.

Here is the most impressive thing---5 years ago 1/4 of the AAC was playing in a AQ BCS league. By late 2011, 5 more incoming programs were able to tell recruits they were joining a BCS AQ league. So, in 2011, the BCS AQ designation was helping 8 out of the leagues current 12 members. Despite that, the leagues average recruiting is actually higher now than it was in that 2011-2012 season when most of the league was recruiting on the "right" side of the AQ dividing line.
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(02-04-2016 02:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:39 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol some of you guys have waaaaay too much time on your hands.

Lol this took all of 15 minutes.

You missed a golden chance at a comback.

All you needed to say to me was "Says the guy with 29,400 posts".

Come on man...
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And keep in mind the American has added three typically low recruiting schools into the mix in Tulane, Tulsa and Navy, which IMO explains the drop prior to this season. Looks like everyone is getting up to speed.

One thing that has to stick out...exposure is king.
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would be interesting to see c-usa's average without marshall's large amount of non qualifiers

but imagine if the gap is this big now, what happens when ucf/usf/smu start winning cause all 3 are recruiting at a fraction of their capabilities

but c-usa fan always swear they are better than the aac and justify it with normally silly reasons. but if you look at the stats that indicate strength they have no grounds...

navy, who must enlist all football players, out recruited all but 3 c-usa teams, and one of those was uab who has a double class, one was marshall who lives on non-qualifiers, and last was la tech who barely and i mean barely outranked navy
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(02-04-2016 03:25 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  And keep in mind the American has added three typically low recruiting schools into the mix in Tulane, Tulsa and Navy, which IMO explains the drop prior to this season. Looks like everyone is getting up to speed.

One thing that has to stick out...exposure is king.

I forgot to mention that all the teams are the same throughout the year. The AAC composition in 2016 is the same team composition in 2012
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(02-04-2016 03:11 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:39 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol some of you guys have waaaaay too much time on your hands.

Lol this took all of 15 minutes.

You missed a golden chance at a comback.

All you needed to say to me was "Says the guy with 29,400 posts".

Come on man...

What can I say, I just don't have it in me to troll at your standards 04-cheers
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(02-04-2016 03:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  would be interesting to see c-usa's average without marshall's large amount of non qualifiers

but imagine if the gap is this big now, what happens when ucf/usf/smu start winning cause all 3 are recruiting at a fraction of their capabilities

but c-usa fan always swear they are better than the aac and justify it with normally silly reasons. but if you look at the stats that indicate strength they have no grounds...

navy, who must enlist all football players, out recruited all but 3 c-usa teams, and one of those was uab who has a double class, one was marshall who lives on non-qualifiers, and last was la tech who barely and i mean barely outranked navy

I think the massive swing from last year to this year, besides the obvious NY6 berth, is the standard that has been set with the hires of Montgomery, Morris, Frost, Norvell, and the keeping of Herman and Rhule. Not only did the programs increase the salaries of the coaches, but also the staff, and i'm willing to bet the budgets for recruiting have gone up as well. With better recruiting from a better budget, and more competent coaches, that difference will only widen and a G5 game will shortly become synonymous with 'cupcake'
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(02-04-2016 04:30 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 03:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  would be interesting to see c-usa's average without marshall's large amount of non qualifiers

but imagine if the gap is this big now, what happens when ucf/usf/smu start winning cause all 3 are recruiting at a fraction of their capabilities

but c-usa fan always swear they are better than the aac and justify it with normally silly reasons. but if you look at the stats that indicate strength they have no grounds...

navy, who must enlist all football players, out recruited all but 3 c-usa teams, and one of those was uab who has a double class, one was marshall who lives on non-qualifiers, and last was la tech who barely and i mean barely outranked navy

I think the massive swing from last year to this year, besides the obvious NY6 berth, is the standard that has been set with the hires of Montgomery, Morris, Frost, Norvell, and the keeping of Herman and Rhule. Not only did the programs increase the salaries of the coaches, but also the staff, and i'm willing to bet the budgets for recruiting have gone up as well. With better recruiting from a better budget, and more competent coaches, that difference will only widen and a G5 game will shortly become synonymous with 'cupcake'


These schools also just completed the third year of heavy national exposure. Its clear that the increased exposure is making a huge difference in the quality of recruit willing to consider AAC schools. Todays recruits are becoming more and more familiar with the schools of the AAC. To many, they see us on TV as often as Big-12 or ACC schools---so, the "second tier" label is fading. Recruits are realizing, "I can play more, start earlier, play in a New Years Day Bowl, AND BE ON NATIONAL TV FOR EVERY GAME---SIGN ME UP".
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(02-04-2016 03:43 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 03:11 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:39 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol some of you guys have waaaaay too much time on your hands.

Lol this took all of 15 minutes.

You missed a golden chance at a comback.

All you needed to say to me was "Says the guy with 29,400 posts".

Come on man...

What can I say, I just don't have it in me to troll at your standards 04-cheers

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I believe the top 3 recruits for Marshall are NQ's.
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Thanks Kruciff that's pretty interesting. I'd like to see the P5 added, so we can gauge all of FBS and see how 'tweener' we actually are, at least in terms of recruiting.
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(02-04-2016 03:11 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-04-2016 02:39 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol some of you guys have waaaaay too much time on your hands.

Lol this took all of 15 minutes.

You missed a golden chance at a comback.

All you needed to say to me was "Says the guy with 29,400 posts".

Come on man...

I have to admit, I don't like what you do... but this made me laugh. 04-cheers
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Five Year, G5 Recruiting Analysis
I wish they had done it be teams who were in the conference that year so we could see how all the changes have affected each conference


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