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RE: Possible G5 conference how would it rank
Captain: Would you also add CS-Fullerton and UC-Riverside?
02-05-2016 10:34 PM
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RE: Possible G5 conference how would it rank
(02-02-2016 10:38 PM)MJG Wrote:  Please don't bother stating the rules as to why it wouldn't happen it defeats the PURPOSE.

EAST travel partners
Youngstown St-EKU
NDSU-UND
UNI-SDSU
U Mass football only

WEST
Montana -Montana ST
Idaho-EWU/Portland ST
UC-Davis-Cal Poly/Sac ST
NMSU football only

The biggest stadiums would be 26-27k and the smaller ones 18.5k according to future plans.Most of the schools would be nationally ranked schools . Attendance would be better than the MAC .

I included options and a few schools I see as possibly being desperate like YSU,EKU and EWU . Desperate in the sense they have few options and would jump at the chance. Coastal Carolina comes to mind as an example of what I mean . Turned down by the CAA and Southern . They jumped over both conferences to join the SBC. They did not have a long drawn out study and drag their feet they jumped at their one big chance.

I think it is fair to assume a fifteen percent jump in attendance at least for every one of these schools .T.V. money and budgets would also increase by a total of 1.5-2 million a year at the least.

The MAC,C-USA and the Sun Belt are fairly even I think this conference would be close if not right there with them.
The AAC then the MWC might have an edge but the other three it would be close eventually.

So without shooting it down because it is currently impossible (so don't comment)
could this conference be a legit G5 conference.
Don't forget to hold the current G5 conferences to the same standards.
Like averaging 5k in attendance a conference under the minimum or a school with a sub ten million dollar budget.

Boy, that stretches from sea to shining sea.

YSU is 6 hours away from EKU - hardly a travel partner. EKU is way behind WKU in fan support and IMO is also behind NKU. YSU is behind all the Ohio MAC schools in fan support, and this conference might even exacerbate that problem - who in Ohio would care to see UC-Davis @ YSU?

With the exception of the Montana schools, those other schools are all FCS for a reason. And that reason is a lack of institutional strength and fan support - both of which are highly correlated with successful football programs.
02-06-2016 01:24 AM
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RE: Possible G5 conference how would it rank
(02-06-2016 01:24 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(02-02-2016 10:38 PM)MJG Wrote:  Please don't bother stating the rules as to why it wouldn't happen it defeats the PURPOSE.

EAST travel partners
Youngstown St-EKU
NDSU-UND
UNI-SDSU
U Mass football only

WEST
Montana -Montana ST
Idaho-EWU/Portland ST
UC-Davis-Cal Poly/Sac ST
NMSU football only

The biggest stadiums would be 26-27k and the smaller ones 18.5k according to future plans.Most of the schools would be nationally ranked schools . Attendance would be better than the MAC .

I included options and a few schools I see as possibly being desperate like YSU,EKU and EWU . Desperate in the sense they have few options and would jump at the chance. Coastal Carolina comes to mind as an example of what I mean . Turned down by the CAA and Southern . They jumped over both conferences to join the SBC. They did not have a long drawn out study and drag their feet they jumped at their one big chance.

I think it is fair to assume a fifteen percent jump in attendance at least for every one of these schools .T.V. money and budgets would also increase by a total of 1.5-2 million a year at the least.

The MAC,C-USA and the Sun Belt are fairly even I think this conference would be close if not right there with them.
The AAC then the MWC might have an edge but the other three it would be close eventually.

So without shooting it down because it is currently impossible (so don't comment)
could this conference be a legit G5 conference.
Don't forget to hold the current G5 conferences to the same standards.
Like averaging 5k in attendance a conference under the minimum or a school with a sub ten million dollar budget.

Boy, that stretches from sea to shining sea.

YSU is 6 hours away from EKU - hardly a travel partner. EKU is way behind WKU in fan support and IMO is also behind NKU. YSU is behind all the Ohio MAC schools in fan support, and this conference might even exacerbate that problem - who in Ohio would care to see UC-Davis @ YSU?

With the exception of the Montana schools, those other schools are all FCS for a reason. And that reason is a lack of institutional strength and fan support - both of which are highly correlated with successful football programs.


Not really about Youngstown State in fan support. They do have a better fan support than some of the MAC schools in football. Usually, the fans do show up when their team faces an FBS opponent. Going to FBS could help bring more fans out. It depends on who they are playing. Youngstown State Vs. Toledo in football with YSU is the home team could be a better fan support than say a Youngstown State Vs a Dayton team.
02-06-2016 01:51 PM
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