(02-01-2016 10:00 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:52 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:49 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:46 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:41 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Exactly where did I mention injuries? Maybe try reading it again.

Where did I say you did? You should try reading. The excuse has been made by many others on this board.

You replied directly to me. Give it up. It's old, it's stale. You're unhappy, go be unhappy.

I agree, the injury excuse by many on here is old and stale.

Yes, I am unhappy about the direction our program has been going the last three years.

Ha, you're the only one that brought up injuries in this thread, bud.

You're the new MD. Congrats.

There are many unhappy with the direction our program is going. I am not the only one. There's a reason why an offensive coordinator lost his job.

(02-01-2016 06:26 PM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  I made this a new topic to hopefully stop the official verbal thread from become yet another ranking service thread.

OK, I don't get it. What do these rating services do? I know they give out stars, etc., but what type of analysis do they do? How big of a staff do they have? Who (Football coaches, fans, other) subscribes to these services?

I looked at U.S. News academic rankings of Illinois high schools and found out that there are 667 high schools in Illinois. OK, I concede that not every high school has football such as an all girls school, etc. So let's say there are 500 schools. Are there approximately 25 analysts assigned just to Illinois to cover every school at least once during the season? During the week do they take visits to schools and have the run and lift?

Here are some additional stats:
California has about 2,200 high schools
Texas has about 1,800 high schools

High School Football

Quote:In the 2012-2013 school year, 14,048 U.S. high schools fielded teams to play 11-man per side American tackle football.

The 1,088,158 athletes who played on these teams in the 2012-2013 school year made football the No. 1 participation sport in the nation's high schools

So with over one million players and 14,048 teams, please explain how these services go about picking and rating the players they cover? What makes these services worth anything more than this boards opinion?

Given that, I just want to know why teams can't find a freaking K. NIU over the years has done an admirable job in this area while some schools in P5 continue to lose games because of their K.Some coaches, at least in the past, refused to even give a K a scholarship!

(02-01-2016 10:26 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 10:00 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:52 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:49 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:46 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Where did I say you did? You should try reading. The excuse has been made by many others on this board.

You replied directly to me. Give it up. It's old, it's stale. You're unhappy, go be unhappy.

I agree, the injury excuse by many on here is old and stale.

Yes, I am unhappy about the direction our program has been going the last three years.

Ha, you're the only one that brought up injuries in this thread, bud.

You're the new MD. Congrats.

There are many unhappy with the direction our program is going. I am not the only one. There's a reason why an offensive coordinator lost his job.

You exaggerate greatly. Programs part ways with coaches all the time. If you are unhappy, with hold your big donation.

(02-02-2016 02:12 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 10:26 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  There are many unhappy with the direction our program is going. I am not the only one. There's a reason why an offensive coordinator lost his job.

You exaggerate greatly. Programs part ways with coaches all the time. If you are unhappy, with hold your big donation.

Parting ways is a nice way of putting it. If people were happy with the performance of the team last year then the offensive coordinator would still have his job.

Also, why do people need to donate to be unhappy with the performance of our program in the postseason? I buy two season tickets every year even though i have not lived in Illinois in over 6 years.

(02-02-2016 04:19 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 02:12 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 10:26 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  There are many unhappy with the direction our program is going. I am not the only one. There's a reason why an offensive coordinator lost his job.

You exaggerate greatly. Programs part ways with coaches all the time. If you are unhappy, with hold your big donation.

Parting ways is a nice way of putting it. If people were happy with the performance of the team last year then the offensive coordinator would still have his job.

Also, why do people need to donate to be unhappy with the performance of our program in the postseason? I buy two season tickets every year even though i have not lived in Illinois in over 6 years.

I don't see how anyone can be happy with the post-season performance - no matter how much or little you donate.

The fighting is silly...We are all the same in one respect: We want a W on Saturday (or, um...Tuesday...or Wednesday..).
No matter what is said or how it is said...everyone wants better recruits, more seats in the stands, and this Huskie streak to continue.
Most all of us know...it won't be easy. Actually, quite difficult.
But, we have some nice hope that next year we will be in the running. And, with how things shake out in the college landscape, speculating about 2017 and beyond is a bit much.

We all have our different coping mechanisms and varying degrees of optimism, or lack thereof, but we are cut from the same or similar Huskie cloth.

Nobody on this board is purely optimistic or happy about certain things that have transpired (I am not), but most of us have enough kool-aid somewhere to allow us to take a breath and see how this season plays out.

Damn it.

Disheartened fans may be better term than pessimistic fans. Of which I think there's two kinds. Some, like myself, feel NIU may be losing their dominance over the conference. Expectations for me have fallen from 10-12 wins and 1 conference loss, to 8-10 wins and maybe 3 conf. losses. Not a terrible thing.
The more disheartened fans are the ones who had their sights set on bigger things…like a P5 conference or a Boise St. like national stature. For them, it's not just a fall from the clear cut top of the MAC, but from the unrealized potential of bigger and better things.

(02-02-2016 06:37 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Disheartened fans may be better term than pessimistic fans. Of which I think there's two kinds. Some, like myself, feel NIU may be losing their dominance over the conference. Expectations for me have fallen from 10-12 wins and 1 conference loss, to 8-10 wins and maybe 3 conf. losses. Not a terrible thing.
The more disheartened fans are the ones who had their sights set on bigger things…like a P5 conference or a Boise St. like national stature. For them, it's not just a fall from the clear cut top of the MAC, but from the unrealized potential of bigger and better things.

Bigger and better things have to do with money, that's it. Why do you think Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston (great year this year, but not a consistent 10 win team) get all the notoriety? They have TONS of money, large stadiums, and thousands of season ticket holders. That's what gets you to the next level, not winning your conference every single year.

(02-02-2016 07:00 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 06:37 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Disheartened fans may be better term than pessimistic fans. Of which I think there's two kinds. Some, like myself, feel NIU may be losing their dominance over the conference. Expectations for me have fallen from 10-12 wins and 1 conference loss, to 8-10 wins and maybe 3 conf. losses. Not a terrible thing.
The more disheartened fans are the ones who had their sights set on bigger things…like a P5 conference or a Boise St. like national stature. For them, it's not just a fall from the clear cut top of the MAC, but from the unrealized potential of bigger and better things.

Bigger and better things have to do with money, that's it. Why do you think Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston (great year this year, but not a consistent 10 win team) get all the notoriety? They have TONS of money, large stadiums, and thousands of season ticket holders. That's what gets you to the next level, not winning your conference every single year.

Well their (Houston) big bowl win and great season has them getting close to a top 25 class this year. So I would say those type of classes get them to the next level.

(02-02-2016 07:00 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 06:37 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Disheartened fans may be better term than pessimistic fans. Of which I think there's two kinds. Some, like myself, feel NIU may be losing their dominance over the conference. Expectations for me have fallen from 10-12 wins and 1 conference loss, to 8-10 wins and maybe 3 conf. losses. Not a terrible thing.
The more disheartened fans are the ones who had their sights set on bigger things…like a P5 conference or a Boise St. like national stature. For them, it's not just a fall from the clear cut top of the MAC, but from the unrealized potential of bigger and better things.

Bigger and better things have to do with money, that's it. Why do you think Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston (great year this year, but not a consistent 10 win team) get all the notoriety? They have TONS of money, large stadiums, and thousands of season ticket holders. That's what gets you to the next level, not winning your conference every single year.

You'll notice I said I was in the less disheartened category. The one that accepts our MAC status. Never thought we'd go P5. In fact, I love MAC play. Looking very forward to see what next season brings. I just realize the ride at the top may likely be over for a couple seasons. But will always love the Huskies.

(02-01-2016 10:00 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:52 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:49 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:46 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:41 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Exactly where did I mention injuries? Maybe try reading it again.

Where did I say you did? You should try reading. The excuse has been made by many others on this board.

You replied directly to me. Give it up. It's old, it's stale. You're unhappy, go be unhappy.

I agree, the injury excuse by many on here is old and stale.

Yes, I am unhappy about the direction our program has been going the last three years.

Ha, you're the only one that brought up injuries in this thread, bud.

You're the new MD. Congrats.

I'm with EPA on this, just being realistic. We are likely getting average MAC talent, and just have to hope we get another all-MAC QB to put us over the top like we had with Lynch and Harnish. It isn't the way to stay on top.

(02-02-2016 10:23 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 10:00 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:52 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:49 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:46 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Where did I say you did? You should try reading. The excuse has been made by many others on this board.

You replied directly to me. Give it up. It's old, it's stale. You're unhappy, go be unhappy.

I agree, the injury excuse by many on here is old and stale.

Yes, I am unhappy about the direction our program has been going the last three years.

Ha, you're the only one that brought up injuries in this thread, bud.

You're the new MD. Congrats.

I'm with EPA on this, just being realistic. We are likely getting average MAC talent, and just have to hope we get another all-MAC QB to put us over the top like we had with Lynch and Harnish. It isn't the way to stay on top.

sigh.....

Off topic, but commentator on ESPN just said they will have 11 hours of coverage of announcments.

11 hours dedicated to P5 plus ND, of which about 9 will be to about 20 schools.

Unreal when they have to set up times for announcements and show them on their tickers. Guess that's just another reason they they get the money they do, are where they are.