With the Oklahoma/LSU matchup tomorrow, this question came to mind. Outside of Memphis and UCONN no one can realistically get one and donee consistently but let's just say it's possible. Which would you rather have on your team?


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(01-29-2016 06:12 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  With the Oklahoma/LSU matchup tomorrow, this question came to mind. Outside of Memphis and UCONN no one can realistically get a one and done but let's just say it's possible. Which would you rather have on your team?


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It's a good question... UC had a "one-and-done" in Lance "Born Ready" Stephenson a couple of years ago. Part of me still hates that he only stuck around one season instead of staying and improving.

Part of the issue is that many of the true "one-and-done" guys are so disruptive and so not into school that they really can't stay longer than a season. And if the stupid NBA rule prohibiting a direct move from HS to the NBA wasn't in force, most of these kids wouldn't spend a second in college.

So, while I "get it" as to why a kid is a "one-and-done" and they are exciting to watch, I personally prefer a "program" type of kid who plays 4 (or 5) years and is a Bearcat through-and-through.

I'd rather have the seniors that develop. Call me old school I don't care.

(01-29-2016 06:25 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 06:12 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  With the Oklahoma/LSU matchup tomorrow, this question came to mind. Outside of Memphis and UCONN no one can realistically get a one and done but let's just say it's possible. Which would you rather have on your team?


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It's a good question... UC had a "one-and-done" in Lance "Born Ready" Stephenson a couple of years ago. Part of me still hates that he only stuck around one season instead of staying and improving.

Part of the issue is that many of the true "one-and-done" guys are so disruptive and so not into school that they really can't stay longer than a season. And if the stupid NBA rule prohibiting a direct move from HS to the NBA wasn't in force, most of these kids wouldn't spend a second in college.

So, while I "get it" as to why a kid is a "one-and-done" and they are exciting to watch, I personally prefer a "program" type of kid who plays 4 (or 5) years and is a Bearcat through-and-through.

Either they need to extend it to two years or have it where you can get drafted but if you decide to stay in school or don't get drafted you'll be in school for at least 2-3 years.


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One and done, it can put you on the map. All it takes is one trip to the Dance and one big run.

(01-29-2016 06:12 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  With the Oklahoma/LSU matchup tomorrow, this question came to mind. Outside of Memphis and UCONN no one can realistically get a one and done but let's just say it's possible. Which would you rather have on your team?


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thats not true at all,

cincy can get one and dones, Houston has gotten 5star bball players before

smu has had 2 mcdonalds all americans the last 3 years (1 was a flop and the other had to go to china from violations but would have been a 1 and done, top 3pick if not for his HS)

and temple with dunphy likely isnt getting 1 and done caliber players, its just not his style..but temple has the brand and location that on a different "recruiting" style coach they can definitely get 1 and dones


with that said 100% of knowledgeable people will take one and dones, Coach K from duke hates one and dones and thought it ruined the sport ....but like everyone else he caved in, kyrie was his first 1 and done in 18 years, now he does them on the regular basis ...if you want to be elite you take them

(01-29-2016 08:01 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 06:12 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  With the Oklahoma/LSU matchup tomorrow, this question came to mind. Outside of Memphis and UCONN no one can realistically get a one and done but let's just say it's possible. Which would you rather have on your team?


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thats not true at all,

cincy can get one and dones, Houston has gotten 5star bball players before

smu has had 2 mcdonalds all americans the last 3 years (1 was a flop and the other had to go to china from violations but would have been a 1 and done, top 3pick if not for his HS)

and temple with dunphy likely isnt getting 1 and done caliber players, its just not his style..but temple has the brand and location that on a different "recruiting" style coach they can definitely get 1 and dones


with that said 100% of knowledgeable people will take one and dones, Coach K from duke hates one and dones and thought it ruined the sport ....but like everyone else he caved in, kyrie was his first 1 and done in 18 years, now he does them on the regular basis ...if you want to be elite you take them

Since one and dones almost exclusively sign at a program because of the coach, the only program in this conference at this time with a real shot (or perhaps best shot) to sign a legitimate one and done is SMU. Rightly or wrongly, I believe that Larry is by far the the coach with the most credibility in getting players ready.

(01-29-2016 11:47 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 08:01 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 06:12 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  With the Oklahoma/LSU matchup tomorrow, this question came to mind. Outside of Memphis and UCONN no one can realistically get a one and done but let's just say it's possible. Which would you rather have on your team?


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thats not true at all,

cincy can get one and dones, Houston has gotten 5star bball players before

smu has had 2 mcdonalds all americans the last 3 years (1 was a flop and the other had to go to china from violations but would have been a 1 and done, top 3pick if not for his HS)

and temple with dunphy likely isnt getting 1 and done caliber players, its just not his style..but temple has the brand and location that on a different "recruiting" style coach they can definitely get 1 and dones


with that said 100% of knowledgeable people will take one and dones, Coach K from duke hates one and dones and thought it ruined the sport ....but like everyone else he caved in, kyrie was his first 1 and done in 18 years, now he does them on the regular basis ...if you want to be elite you take them

Since one and dones almost exclusively sign at a program because of the coach, the only program in this conference at this time with a real shot (or perhaps best shot) to sign a legitimate one and done is SMU. Rightly or wrongly, I believe that Larry is by far the the coach with the most credibility in getting players ready.

Lance Stephenson was recruited by and played for Mick Cronin. And UConn and Memphis can definitely attract a one-and-done as well. Houston might soon join that list with Sampson's resume.

Pastner has had several 1-and-dones stay until their senior year...it's his specialty

I would rather have a team of seniors who were all three star types that developed and played together for a few years. Those teams are usually the ones that make the runs in March. When you see a really good mid major, that is usually the situation.

Plus as a fan, you feel more invested since you have been watching them play for a few years.

UC has had some one and done players (Wingfield, D. Johnson, Stephenson) and they were all really good, but being here for a cup of coffee and moving on doesn't give the fan much time to cheer and really like the player.

I'd like to see the NBA do away with their stupid rule and take kids that have no interest in going to college right out of high school. They may need to expand their D-League to make that possible, but it would really be in everyone's best interest. I would have no problems with one-and-done's after that, if say a kid wants to try college, finds out it's not for him, and goes pro after one year. But forcing kids that don't want to go to college to be there is bad for everyone.

As far as what I'd rather have at ECU... well, I enjoy following players for all 4 years that they play at ECU, so I'd prefer the senior that progresses to greatness.

If we get a 1 and done, it is because he is so bad they pull his schollie.

I like both.

Dedric Lawson better not be one and done

(01-30-2016 10:27 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  I like both.

Oprah has a gun pointed to your head and you have to choose one which would it be?


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(01-30-2016 09:34 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'd like to see the NBA do away with their stupid rule and take kids that have no interest in going to college right out of high school. They may need to expand their D-League to make that possible, but it would really be in everyone's best interest. I would have no problems with one-and-done's after that, if say a kid wants to try college, finds out it's not for him, and goes pro after one year. But forcing kids that don't want to go to college to be there is bad for everyone.

As far as what I'd rather have at ECU... well, I enjoy following players for all 4 years that they play at ECU, so I'd prefer the senior that progresses to greatness.

Technically, they already have the option of not playing college basketball, they just can't play in the NBA.