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RE: American looking at CUSA teams?
(01-29-2016 10:47 AM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If the AAC had two schools poached, I'd be curious to see where they go with expansion. Assuming the two are some combination of Cincy/Memphis/Houston/UConn, I could see the AAC going several directions. They could try to rebuild their eastern presence with Ohio and UMASS, they could go for more southern penetration with UAB and UTSA, or they could make a push out west to cripple the MWC and become the dominant G5 by taking BSU, CSU, BYU and UNLV. Going to 14/16 might seem impractical for a monetary standpoint, but I think the next tv contracts are going to be all about trimming fat. ESPN can pay more for the AAC if it means that they are no longer paying the MWC as much. A gutted MWC is far less valuable than an AAC with the most valuable MWC properties. This becomes more true the further down you go.

What Boren is saying is the B12 will take BYU/UConn to max out the value of the B12 network.

That means the AAC isn't going West for expansion and its opening is in the East.

Army-They may feel pressure if the B12 moves to 12 with BYU to take the last opening for a while in the AAC.

UMass-The school might be willing to accept an AAC football only membership. This allows the AAC to keep its TV contract for FB at 12 with out adding travel or cutting into the basketball pie.

Buffalo-If the AAC is thinking all sport member that plays decent football Buffalo could be a choice worth considering. Its hard to ignore the state of NY and its 20 million people.

ODU-A good compromise pick between the southern and East Coast contingencies in the AAC. The school is lacking tradition at the top level of college sports.

Ohio-This school is a former conference mate of Cincinnati, Temple and UCF. Has expansions drafted for both its FB and BB arenas to take them to the AAC level. I think if Cincinnati leaves the AAC it doesn't make sense for Ohio to consider.
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RE: American looking at CUSA teams?
(01-29-2016 10:57 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 10:07 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  NIU is gonna have draw more than a MAC team first.
Hey our basketball is on the up and up and fans will come if we get outta the MAC

Also dat sexy Chicago media market... you know you want it 03-wink

NIU's biggest problem is they don't fit in geographically with any of the existing schools of the AAC or from a rivalry perspective.

I suppose NIU could offer a FB only to the AAC with the idea of placing their basketball program in the Summit. If it really felt that the AAC was an upgrade. Will the AAC be an upgrade over the MAC with a couple defections?
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RE: American looking at CUSA teams?
(01-29-2016 12:35 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(01-28-2016 11:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-28-2016 11:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  That's the rumor floating around the UAE while doing business over there the day before yesterday when a good friend and well connected insider to the AAC leadership was telling me.

Its a well known fact that UAE is a big driver of CUSA digital network sales.

Also, the University of Dubai is moving its athletic programs from Persian Gulf Division II up to FBS. They plan to play football in one of the stadiums being built for the World Cup. U Dubai will join CUSA as part of the deal.

That would be Qatar University. Home of the Fighting Camels.
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(01-29-2016 12:35 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 12:35 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
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(01-28-2016 11:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  That's the rumor floating around the UAE while doing business over there the day before yesterday when a good friend and well connected insider to the AAC leadership was telling me.

Its a well known fact that UAE is a big driver of CUSA digital network sales.

Also, the University of Dubai is moving its athletic programs from Persian Gulf Division II up to FBS. They plan to play football in one of the stadiums being built for the World Cup. U Dubai will join CUSA as part of the deal.

That would be Qatar University. Home of the Fighting Camels.

Qatar University and University of Dubai will be travel partners! Think of all the travel cost savings! Every CUSA school will be rolling in dough!
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(01-29-2016 11:42 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 10:47 AM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If the AAC had two schools poached, I'd be curious to see where they go with expansion. Assuming the two are some combination of Cincy/Memphis/Houston/UConn, I could see the AAC going several directions. They could try to rebuild their eastern presence with Ohio and UMASS, they could go for more southern penetration with UAB and UTSA, or they could make a push out west to cripple the MWC and become the dominant G5 by taking BSU, CSU, BYU and UNLV. Going to 14/16 might seem impractical for a monetary standpoint, but I think the next tv contracts are going to be all about trimming fat. ESPN can pay more for the AAC if it means that they are no longer paying the MWC as much. A gutted MWC is far less valuable than an AAC with the most valuable MWC properties. This becomes more true the further down you go.

What Boren is saying is the B12 will take BYU/UConn to max out the value of the B12 network.

That means the AAC isn't going West for expansion and its opening is in the East.

Army-They may feel pressure if the B12 moves to 12 with BYU to take the last opening for a while in the AAC.

UMass-The school might be willing to accept an AAC football only membership. This allows the AAC to keep its TV contract for FB at 12 with out adding travel or cutting into the basketball pie.

Buffalo-If the AAC is thinking all sport member that plays decent football Buffalo could be a choice worth considering. Its hard to ignore the state of NY and its 20 million people.

ODU-A good compromise pick between the southern and East Coast contingencies in the AAC. The school is lacking tradition at the top level of college sports.

Ohio-This school is a former conference mate of Cincinnati, Temple and UCF. Has expansions drafted for both its FB and BB arenas to take them to the AAC level. I think if Cincinnati leaves the AAC it doesn't make sense for Ohio to consider.

It's actually very easy to ignore New York and its 20 million people. Most of them aren't really into college sports. And many of those 20 million people may not even be aware that Buffalo is in New York and not Canada.
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(01-29-2016 11:42 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 10:47 AM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If the AAC had two schools poached, I'd be curious to see where they go with expansion. Assuming the two are some combination of Cincy/Memphis/Houston/UConn, I could see the AAC going several directions. They could try to rebuild their eastern presence with Ohio and UMASS, they could go for more southern penetration with UAB and UTSA, or they could make a push out west to cripple the MWC and become the dominant G5 by taking BSU, CSU, BYU and UNLV. Going to 14/16 might seem impractical for a monetary standpoint, but I think the next tv contracts are going to be all about trimming fat. ESPN can pay more for the AAC if it means that they are no longer paying the MWC as much. A gutted MWC is far less valuable than an AAC with the most valuable MWC properties. This becomes more true the further down you go.

What Boren is saying is the B12 will take BYU/UConn to max out the value of the B12 network.

That means the AAC isn't going West for expansion and its opening is in the East.

Army-They may feel pressure if the B12 moves to 12 with BYU to take the last opening for a while in the AAC.

UMass-The school might be willing to accept an AAC football only membership. This allows the AAC to keep its TV contract for FB at 12 with out adding travel or cutting into the basketball pie.

Buffalo-If the AAC is thinking all sport member that plays decent football Buffalo could be a choice worth considering. Its hard to ignore the state of NY and its 20 million people.

ODU-A good compromise pick between the southern and East Coast contingencies in the AAC. The school is lacking tradition at the top level of college sports.

Ohio-This school is a former conference mate of Cincinnati, Temple and UCF. Has expansions drafted for both its FB and BB arenas to take them to the AAC level. I think if Cincinnati leaves the AAC it doesn't make sense for Ohio to consider.

Why on earth would one take UMass as a football only?

There is one strategy that is best for the AAC if they are poached, but I doubt it works. Go west. Offer Air Force and Colorado St as a package. Or, go even bigger and offer 4 MW schools as a package (all sports full membership invites).

If that doesn't work---and I don't think it will since it will be a weakened AAC trying to pull it off---I think they would have 2 choices. Stand pat---or become a true "student athlete" conference built around a solid academic reputation (ACC light).

First, you take Wichita to restock basketball. Then, you add UMass and Buffalo (USNWP #75 and an AAU school). That puts every AAC school but one in the USNWR top 200, with many in the top 100.

At that point, the AAC would have Temple, UMass, Navy, and Buffalo in the northeast (maybe UConn too, depending on who was taken). Now have Aresco go talk to Army, as that's a division I think Army could fit into.

If you get Army, you can go back to AF with one slot left and say--"Hey, do you want to join a conference with the other 2 academies? Last chance---and you're on the clock."

If they join, that's a conference with solid academic credentials, a real identity, and a some decent TV value. Im personally not a big fan of the UMass/Buffalo thing because their attendance is bad and their programs are weak in football performance---but I could see presidents doing something like that.
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(01-29-2016 10:47 AM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If the AAC had two schools poached, I'd be curious to see where they go with expansion. Assuming the two are some combination of Cincy/Memphis/Houston/UConn, I could see the AAC going several directions. They could try to rebuild their eastern presence with Ohio and UMASS, they could go for more southern penetration with UAB and UTSA, or they could make a push out west to cripple the MWC and become the dominant G5 by taking BSU, CSU, BYU and UNLV. Going to 14/16 might seem impractical for a monetary standpoint, but I think the next tv contracts are going to be all about trimming fat. ESPN can pay more for the AAC if it means that they are no longer paying the MWC as much. A gutted MWC is far less valuable than an AAC with the most valuable MWC properties. This becomes more true the further down you go.

No way UTSA is ready to take that next step yet.. In order to be considered by the AAC they would need to upgrade the basketball program. Football is good in the Alamodome, but the BB program is way behind even in CUSA. Problem with getting into CUSA so fast is they need time to lay that foundation. Which they are doing at this point. I think long term UTSA could be a good program, but not in the next few years.
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How's this not the equivalent of spam? Mods please weigh in
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(01-29-2016 10:52 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  University of Uranus is calling for a spot as well.

Yeah, but Uranus stinks.
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(01-29-2016 09:55 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  I'm surprised Miko didn't mention the University of Mars. I heard they're putting together a team coached by Gunter.

I'm really disappointed in Miko. His trolling skills have gone to hell. Or to the UAE, whichever comes first.
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(01-29-2016 10:21 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Not to proliferate a troll thread, or anything, but ...

the AAC is CUSA teams.

cUSA teams never won a BCS/Access bowl. 07-coffee3
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(01-29-2016 01:13 PM)Greenroom Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 10:47 AM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If the AAC had two schools poached, I'd be curious to see where they go with expansion. Assuming the two are some combination of Cincy/Memphis/Houston/UConn, I could see the AAC going several directions. They could try to rebuild their eastern presence with Ohio and UMASS, they could go for more southern penetration with UAB and UTSA, or they could make a push out west to cripple the MWC and become the dominant G5 by taking BSU, CSU, BYU and UNLV. Going to 14/16 might seem impractical for a monetary standpoint, but I think the next tv contracts are going to be all about trimming fat. ESPN can pay more for the AAC if it means that they are no longer paying the MWC as much. A gutted MWC is far less valuable than an AAC with the most valuable MWC properties. This becomes more true the further down you go.

No way UTSA is ready to take that next step yet.. In order to be considered by the AAC they would need to upgrade the basketball program. Football is good in the Alamodome, but the BB program is way behind even in CUSA. Problem with getting into CUSA so fast is they need time to lay that foundation. Which they are doing at this point. I think long term UTSA could be a good program, but not in the next few years.

My thinking is if, by some reason, Houston got poached, the AAC could continue its Texas presence with a similarly situated school. It's the only game in town and in good recruiting grounds and it doesn't present the "small private school" issue that people seem to have with Rice.
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(01-29-2016 06:17 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 01:36 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(01-28-2016 11:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  That's the rumor floating around the UAE while doing business over there the day before yesterday when a good friend and well connected insider to the AAC leadership was telling me.

K, hate it for you, but it is lame. I guess you used to be funny?

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Rice, Air Force, Army are three decent adds to the AAC.
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(01-29-2016 03:58 PM)Bull Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 10:21 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Not to proliferate a troll thread, or anything, but ...

the AAC is CUSA teams.

cUSA teams never won a BCS/Access bowl. 07-coffee3

Former CUSA teams has won a BCS/Access Bowl. 07-coffee3
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(01-29-2016 11:42 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(01-29-2016 10:47 AM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If the AAC had two schools poached, I'd be curious to see where they go with expansion. Assuming the two are some combination of Cincy/Memphis/Houston/UConn, I could see the AAC going several directions. They could try to rebuild their eastern presence with Ohio and UMASS, they could go for more southern penetration with UAB and UTSA, or they could make a push out west to cripple the MWC and become the dominant G5 by taking BSU, CSU, BYU and UNLV. Going to 14/16 might seem impractical for a monetary standpoint, but I think the next tv contracts are going to be all about trimming fat. ESPN can pay more for the AAC if it means that they are no longer paying the MWC as much. A gutted MWC is far less valuable than an AAC with the most valuable MWC properties. This becomes more true the further down you go.

What Boren is saying is the B12 will take BYU/UConn to max out the value of the B12 network.

That means the AAC isn't going West for expansion and its opening is in the East.

Army-They may feel pressure if the B12 moves to 12 with BYU to take the last opening for a while in the AAC.

UMass-The school might be willing to accept an AAC football only membership. This allows the AAC to keep its TV contract for FB at 12 with out adding travel or cutting into the basketball pie.

Buffalo-If the AAC is thinking all sport member that plays decent football Buffalo could be a choice worth considering. Its hard to ignore the state of NY and its 20 million people.

ODU-A good compromise pick between the southern and East Coast contingencies in the AAC. The school is lacking tradition at the top level of college sports.

Ohio-This school is a former conference mate of Cincinnati, Temple and UCF. Has expansions drafted for both its FB and BB arenas to take them to the AAC level. I think if Cincinnati leaves the AAC it doesn't make sense for Ohio to consider.

They're clearly going to add the Univetsity of Maine. I hear they're maniacs.
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(01-28-2016 11:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  That's the rumor floating around the UAE while doing business over there the day before yesterday when a good friend and well connected insider to the AAC leadership was telling me.

Punxsutawney miko has spoken.
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Where's Ernest, once scared stupid, when you need him? He needs to show some affection to this troll.
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