(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Thank you, Dr. Joyce Brothers, for your deep insight.

Pastner tries to have instincts, but, in truth, he uses his mind too much.

Burrell is a playah. CJP takes playahs and clouds their instincts with thinking, aka mindfulness.

The body has a brain. Let it do its thing without the mind interfering.

So all good coaches had to have played at a high level in order to understand the finer points of the game? We all know that's not true, but if you believe that then you're probably going to like the next guy.

I think Pastner understands many general and specific aspects of the game. He seems to need to develop his communication skills with the players. I'm not sure he has a sense of priorities. A player can only listen to x amount of words before his eyes glaze over.

There are still people defending him? I think Josh is a fine person. I think he sucks as a basketball coach. The two are not mutually exclusive opinions.

(01-27-2016 10:33 PM)danny1 Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Pastner fan or not - you have entirely too much time on your hands and your attempt at playing psychologist fails miserably.

Wow, I agree. You can want Pastner gone or not, but sweet mother of Charles Carmouche, this was.......bewildering.

"Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by."


"His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false."

"Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth."

I mean....what???

(01-27-2016 10:33 PM)danny1 Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Pastner fan or not - you have entirely too much time on your hands and your attempt at playing psychologist fails miserably.

actually, I thought he was pretty good. I just sent a pm to see if he can straighten me out

(01-28-2016 10:24 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:33 PM)danny1 Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Pastner fan or not - you have entirely too much time on your hands and your attempt at playing psychologist fails miserably.

actually, I thought he was pretty good. I just sent a pm to see if he can straighten me out

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Awesome dude.

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

(01-28-2016 10:32 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Awesome dude.

Doesn't take much to impress you, huh?

(01-28-2016 05:26 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 10:32 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Awesome dude.

Doesn't take much to impress you, huh?

Well some folks were impressed with a win over a 190 rpi team so there's that

(01-28-2016 06:13 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 05:26 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 10:32 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 06:18 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  But Im sure he disappoints Burrell more than any of us.

Burrell signed with him. He trusted him to guide him and fellow teammates to an opportunity to compete on a level that matters, all while Pastner had not yet proven he could do so.

Part of the problem is that Pastner was never a good enough player to understand the split second instincts and thus the decisions that real basketball players make over the course of a game. He projects himself and his own ability into the equation, and when something happens outside of what he can't understand, his hyper controlling nature takes over and he punishes said player.


Do y'all remember the Weird Al song and video 'White and Nerdy'? That nearly sums up the unconscious psychology of Josh Pastner. I think he wanted to be cool with the athletes, as well as feel that his father was as proud of his athletic prowess as he was the players he coached in AAU. Unable to reach a high enough level through his play, he turned to using his mind to attempt the same objective… to be accepted by his father and the athletes he was surrounded by.

The truth is Josh never fit in, and he in turn feels the need to prove to the players that his way is a way that they must deal with. He now holds a group of players that understand the game more than he does, as well as an entire basketball program hostage, getting off on the fact that someone deemed him equivalent to 2.6 Million in value per year. His inner struggle and need to control likely stems from the fact that he knows that this value is false. He convinced a group to allow him to be a part, convinced them that he would fit in, and he doesnt. He doesnt belong in basketball.

Josh Pastner has been lying to himself and to others his entire life. He's a fake. He has thrown his true life talents under the bus in order to attempt being cool. Now, he throws his players under the bus as his unconscious wrestles with this disturbing truth.

Thankfully we are almost done dealing with it.

Awesome dude.

Doesn't take much to impress you, huh?

Well some folks were impressed with a win over a 190 rpi team so there's that

and call it "peaking"