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Coach says shovels should be in the dirt in June for Facilities.

Figure talks will start around signing day.

I think we're getting facilities mixed up.

The BJCC stadium is still waiting for cost & design info from the company they hired to do the feasibility study. I think I heard April... not sure.

The UAB football operations facility has been given permission by the BOT to combine phase I & II of the building process to expedite getting shovels in the dirt. Clark said we'll start seeing demo of part of Ullman soon and the goal is to have the facility ready by the summer of 2017.

(01-27-2016 10:03 AM)UABslant Wrote:  I think we're getting facilities mixed up.

The BJCC stadium is still waiting for cost & design info from the company they hired to do the feasibility study. I think I heard April... not sure.

The UAB football operations facility has been given permission by the BOT to combine phase I & II of the building process to expedite getting shovels in the dirt. Clark said we'll start seeing demo of part of Ullman soon and the goal is to have the facility ready by the summer of 2017.

That's a good timeline. Part of Ullman? Are they going to leave part of it up? That building has needed to go for quite a while now. Does the operations building include fields?

(01-27-2016 10:25 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:03 AM)UABslant Wrote:  I think we're getting facilities mixed up.

The BJCC stadium is still waiting for cost & design info from the company they hired to do the feasibility study. I think I heard April... not sure.

The UAB football operations facility has been given permission by the BOT to combine phase I & II of the building process to expedite getting shovels in the dirt. Clark said we'll start seeing demo of part of Ullman soon and the goal is to have the facility ready by the summer of 2017.

That's a good timeline. Part of Ullman? Are they going to leave part of it up? That building has needed to go for quite a while now. Does the operations building include fields?

The original Ullman building is in on the national register of historic buildings and thus would be hard to demolish. The Ullman annex however is not part of the historic building designation because it was constructed after the original Ullman building. This is the part of Ullman that will be torn down.

They are going to demo the '60s annex to Ullman (the shorter wing on the practice field side). The remainder of Ullman is on the National Register of Historic Places and can't be touched without gargantuan mountains of government bureacracy. Just the renovation for athletic department offices had to be approved step by step to ensure exterior historical appearance accuracy.

Pardon my history ignorance and/or memory loss, why briefly is the Ullman buillding important?

Feel free to exclude references to Bear Bryant, stadium certificates, and other non-important political stuff.

(01-27-2016 10:55 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Pardon my history ignorance and/or memory loss, why briefly is the Ullman buillding important?

Feel free to exclude references to Bear Bryant, stadium certificates, and other non-important political stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Ullman

The building was originally a whites-only school, and eventually was converted into a segregated blacks-only school. Samuel Ullman was a local civic leader, and there's a UAB-managed museum near 5 Points about him: https://www.uab.edu/ullmanmuseum/

Primarily, though, I think it's on the register just because it's a super old building that has managed to survive long enough to make it on the register.

What would be the repercussions if during the construction process, someone accidentally left a bulldozer in gear and aimed toward a historic building.

What if they found mammoth bones?

Just tear down the whole block and make it All Athletics. Obviously leave the parking but designate it for athletes.

(01-27-2016 11:17 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:55 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Pardon my history ignorance and/or memory loss, why briefly is the Ullman buillding important?

Feel free to exclude references to Bear Bryant, stadium certificates, and other non-important political stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Ullman

The building was originally a whites-only school, and eventually was converted into a segregated blacks-only school. Samuel Ullman was a local civic leader, and there's a UAB-managed museum near 5 Points about him: https://www.uab.edu/ullmanmuseum/

Primarily, though, I think it's on the register just because it's a super old building that has managed to survive long enough to make it on the register.

The Ullman HS building and the Methodist Church building are preserved by UAB perhaps to give the relatively new school a touch of tradition it otherwise might lack -- sort of like having a building with ivy covered walls. Otherwise, the oldest undergrad building on campus is Cudworth Hall which was the original engineering and sciences school building. Tidwell Hall which housed humanities, education, the library and administration offices has been replaced by a new building.

Destruction of either building would risk being perceived as insensitively "going ISIS" on an old building that may have special meaning to a segment of the city's population. UAB does not need to risk alienation of any segment of its city's people.

(01-27-2016 01:05 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 11:17 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:55 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Pardon my history ignorance and/or memory loss, why briefly is the Ullman buillding important?

Feel free to exclude references to Bear Bryant, stadium certificates, and other non-important political stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Ullman

The building was originally a whites-only school, and eventually was converted into a segregated blacks-only school. Samuel Ullman was a local civic leader, and there's a UAB-managed museum near 5 Points about him: https://www.uab.edu/ullmanmuseum/

Primarily, though, I think it's on the register just because it's a super old building that has managed to survive long enough to make it on the register.

The Ullman HS building and the Methodist Church building are preserved by UAB perhaps to give the relatively new school a touch of tradition it otherwise might lack -- sort of like having a building with ivy covered walls. Otherwise, the oldest undergrad building on campus is Cudworth Hall which was the original engineering and sciences school building. Tidwell Hall which housed humanities, education, the library and administration offices has been replaced by a new building.

Destruction of either building would risk being perceived as insensitively "going ISIS" on an old building that may have special meaning to a segment of the city's population. UAB does not need to risk alienation of any segment of its city's people.

And piss off half of Japan

(01-27-2016 01:05 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 11:17 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:55 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Pardon my history ignorance and/or memory loss, why briefly is the Ullman buillding important?

Feel free to exclude references to Bear Bryant, stadium certificates, and other non-important political stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Ullman

The building was originally a whites-only school, and eventually was converted into a segregated blacks-only school. Samuel Ullman was a local civic leader, and there's a UAB-managed museum near 5 Points about him: https://www.uab.edu/ullmanmuseum/

Primarily, though, I think it's on the register just because it's a super old building that has managed to survive long enough to make it on the register.

The Ullman HS building and the Methodist Church building are preserved by UAB perhaps to give the relatively new school a touch of tradition it otherwise might lack -- sort of like having a building with ivy covered walls. Otherwise, the oldest undergrad building on campus is Cudworth Hall which was the original engineering and sciences school building. Tidwell Hall which housed humanities, education, the library and administration offices has been replaced by a new building.

Destruction of either building would risk being perceived as insensitively "going ISIS" on an old building that may have special meaning to a segment of the city's population. UAB does not need to risk alienation of any segment of its city's people.

It's being preserved because UAB as it's owner has to. It's on the register of historic buildings, is the oldest school building in Birmingham, and houses most of the athletic department offices.

My understanding is that the ceremonial groundbreaking on the new Football offices is to take place in early February. The plans for the stadium are not firmed up yet.

(01-27-2016 12:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  What would be the repercussions if during the construction process, someone accidentally left a bulldozer in gear and aimed toward a historic building.

If UAB were a private university that accepted no Federal funds there would be no repercussions. But as a public entity with any level of Federal funding all plans for structures on the Register must be reviewed by the Federal Advisory Council on Historic Preservation. Failure to adhere to these guidelines could lead to reduced or eliminated Federal funding and impact future Federal grant applications. Since a sizeable amount of income comes from Federal research grants, it is probably better to go with the flow than risk any Federal animosity.

(01-27-2016 12:41 PM)rook360 Wrote:  Just tear down the whole block and make it All Athletics. Obviously leave the parking but designate it for athletes.

That would be an NCAA "extra benefits" violation.

(01-27-2016 02:21 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 12:41 PM)rook360 Wrote:  Just tear down the whole block and make it All Athletics. Obviously leave the parking but designate it for athletes.

That would be an NCAA "extra benefits" violation.

Well, guess everyone just has to settle with what we get and more e on.

Guys let's just be happy for what we're getting we were very close to getting nothing and having our athletic program downsize tremendously Dangerously close We now have a chance to move this program forward and Aim for the future We have gone through the crossroads and no one ran us over now we have a opportunity to take the program to new heights we could only have imagined a few years ago

(01-27-2016 02:21 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 12:41 PM)rook360 Wrote:  Just tear down the whole block and make it All Athletics. Obviously leave the parking but designate it for athletes.

That would be an NCAA "extra benefits" violation.

The parking over there is designated for the new school of business building anyway