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Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
It seems to me that a lot of schools would look at Pastner's number of wins in 7 years… top 10 all time, recruiting success over those years, and pay him very well.

The longer he holds us hostage, the more future years with lessor recruits and poor records will water his overall record and image down further, lessening each and every year the amount some other schmucks are willing to gamble on him.

It seems a reasonable model of projections could be presented to Pastner along with a buyout number far less than his current contract demands. This model could simply demonstrate that by holding us hostage for the full amount, his projected demand and the amount others will be willing to pay for him based on that demand are so far less because of his latter years of pure crap, that he would make far more money overall by leaving for far less now and being hired somewhere else.

But he's probably too stubborn for that. Maybe he is delusional enough to think that he can really coach?
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RE: Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
Nope, he's smart enough to collect every dime of that 10 million. If he gets the axe he will have a job at CBS or the mothership before the news hits the ticker.
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RE: Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
(01-26-2016 10:17 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  It seems to me that a lot of schools would look at Pastner's number of wins in 7 years… top 10 all time, recruiting success over those years, and pay him very well.

I only quote that first sentence because -- my brain now knowing it wasn't worth the minimal effort I literally couldn't comprehend beyond that.
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RE: Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
CBS wouldn't keep him. He is the most boring coach to listen to in the history of sports. I have never heard him say anything interesting or insightful. Just the same ole garbage of how everybody is good or a dear friend. After viewers are done watching just to make fun of him, they would quit watching
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RE: Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
(01-26-2016 10:17 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  It seems to me that a lot of schools would look at Pastner's number of wins in 7 years… top 10 all time, recruiting success over those years, and pay him very well.

The longer he holds us hostage, the more future years with lessor recruits and poor records will water his overall record and image down further, lessening each and every year the amount some other schmucks are willing to gamble on him.

It seems a reasonable model of projections could be presented to Pastner along with a buyout number far less than his current contract demands. This model could simply demonstrate that by holding us hostage for the full amount, his projected demand and the amount others will be willing to pay for him based on that demand are so far less because of his latter years of pure crap, that he would make far more money overall by leaving for far less now and being hired somewhere else.

But he's probably too stubborn for that. Maybe he is delusional enough to think that he can really coach?

Don't worry, you can improve your posting skills with practice.
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RE: Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
Would you leave 10 million on the table if thw answer is no then move along
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(01-26-2016 11:16 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  Would you leave 10 million on the table if thw answer is no then move along

The point is that with each year he stays here, he is leaving future millions from his next job on the table. His perceived value as a basketball coach has moved far past its peak.
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RE: Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
He can live quite well on 10 million
Bucks for A long time AND not
need another job.
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(01-27-2016 07:20 PM)mapdude Wrote:  He can live quite well on 10 million
Bucks for A long time AND not
need another job.

True. If reputation and longevity in the coaching career doesnt matter to him, and all that does is financial security, then he is in great shape
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Memphis can block him from talking to other schools. I think that is the leverage that brings down the 10.6. If Memphis lets him talk to a school he is interested in and he gets the job he agrees to discount a certain amount of the 10.6. How much of a discount who knows.
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(01-26-2016 10:56 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Nope, he's smart enough to collect every dime of that 10 million. If he gets the axe he will have a job at CBS or the mothership before the news hits the ticker.

Or in Lexington
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(01-27-2016 07:33 PM)kmorales Wrote:  Memphis can block him from talking to other schools. I think that is the leverage that brings down the 10.6. If Memphis lets him talk to a school he is interested in and he gets the job he agrees to discount a certain amount of the 10.6. How much of a discount who knows.

Just name him special assistant to the AD and put him in a broom closet for 4 years. Keep him away from all media and social functions. No speaking gigs, no interviews, no coaching jobs anywhere college or NBA.

A man with a demeanor such as his will not be able to sit in an office for 4 years fading into obscurity. He will leave. When he does decide to bail the university can be magnanimous and offer to waive his $500K buyout.
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RE: Deducting the opportunity cost from the 10Mil?
(01-27-2016 08:33 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 10:56 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Nope, he's smart enough to collect every dime of that 10 million. If he gets the axe he will have a job at CBS or the mothership before the news hits the ticker.

Or in Lexington

yep Cal is going to to take care of his guys
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(01-27-2016 07:01 PM)GoeTygers Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 11:16 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  Would you leave 10 million on the table if thw answer is no then move along

The point is that with each year he stays here, he is leaving future millions from his next job on the table. His perceived value as a basketball coach has moved far past its peak.

I sure hope you don't do your own taxes.
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(01-27-2016 08:36 PM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 07:33 PM)kmorales Wrote:  Memphis can block him from talking to other schools. I think that is the leverage that brings down the 10.6. If Memphis lets him talk to a school he is interested in and he gets the job he agrees to discount a certain amount of the 10.6. How much of a discount who knows.

Just name him special assistant to the AD and put him in a broom closet for 4 years. Keep him away from all media and social functions. No speaking gigs, no interviews, no coaching jobs anywhere college or NBA.

A man with a demeanor such as his will not be able to sit in an office for 4 years fading into obscurity. He will leave. When he does decide to bail the university can be magnanimous and offer to waive his $500K buyout.

And you will never hire a good coach for any sport again
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(01-27-2016 08:38 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 08:36 PM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 07:33 PM)kmorales Wrote:  Memphis can block him from talking to other schools. I think that is the leverage that brings down the 10.6. If Memphis lets him talk to a school he is interested in and he gets the job he agrees to discount a certain amount of the 10.6. How much of a discount who knows.

Just name him special assistant to the AD and put him in a broom closet for 4 years. Keep him away from all media and social functions. No speaking gigs, no interviews, no coaching jobs anywhere college or NBA.

A man with a demeanor such as his will not be able to sit in an office for 4 years fading into obscurity. He will leave. When he does decide to bail the university can be magnanimous and offer to waive his $500K buyout.

And you will never hire a good coach for any sport again

Precisely my point. People keep trying to come up with ways to skirt the man's contract. It's easy to do if you don't mind suffering the consequences.
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(01-27-2016 08:37 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 08:33 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 10:56 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Nope, he's smart enough to collect every dime of that 10 million. If he gets the axe he will have a job at CBS or the mothership before the news hits the ticker.

Or in Lexington

yep Cal is going to to take care of his guys

Folklore that has been disproven. Cal will take care of Barbee and Kellogg and Antigua and Robic. The rest are really not his guys. (See Roccaforte and Strickland.)
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(01-27-2016 07:33 PM)kmorales Wrote:  Memphis can block him from talking to other schools. I think that is the leverage that brings down the 10.6. If Memphis lets him talk to a school he is interested in and he gets the job he agrees to discount a certain amount of the 10.6. How much of a discount who knows.

How can Memphis block that? Post-employment restrictions and non-competes are not binding in coaching contracts.
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(01-27-2016 08:33 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 10:56 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Nope, he's smart enough to collect every dime of that 10 million. If he gets the axe he will have a job at CBS or the mothership before the news hits the ticker.

Or in Lexington

If he takes another gig, while still under contract with us, said school is on the hook for a portion of the buyout. If he leaves, he ain't coaching anytime soon.
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(01-28-2016 09:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 08:37 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 08:33 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 10:56 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Nope, he's smart enough to collect every dime of that 10 million. If he gets the axe he will have a job at CBS or the mothership before the news hits the ticker.

Or in Lexington

yep Cal is going to to take care of his guys

Folklore that has been disproven. Cal will take care of Barbee and Kellogg and Antigua and Robic. The rest are really not his guys. (See Roccaforte and Strickland.)

Cal told Josh that he has a spot on his bench at UK if Memphis doesn't work out for him.
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