(01-27-2016 10:03 AM)PGJMU Wrote:  boy, I love the love fest for Brady. it would be interesting if someone could dig up the Brady bashing threads. As I recall, there were many haters and only a few of us who had faith in Matt. Dukes84, NJDuke97 & JMU98 were about the only believers I remember.

All that said, a win Thursday would go a long way. This is the biggest meaningful home game in a long time.

my, my, my - can't you just have a complimentary thread without all that stuff......

I'm not going to go negative rehash the entire tenure everyone knows, but I will generally say to the brotherhood -

If you told me or most people on these boards the first 7 years under Matt we would get no NIT appearances and one NCAA appearance and that as a #16 seed - I think just about everyone including myself would of said - "what's the next option?". Throw in all the baggage - and it makes it worse. Oh yeah, don't forget no ODU, VCU, or GMU for the 2nd half his tenure. Excitement for the program is less than of that for the Women.

Who told what to who?

I think he's finally heading in the right direction, but still has not gotten there - but getting closer.

Just wanted a deserved complimentary thread.......

(01-27-2016 09:35 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 07:32 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:   I agree that they have a top 75 team this year with potential to get even better and the great news is that next years team should be at the same level or better.

One last thought- let's not underestimate the talent on this roster. You mentioned that there is no Cooke on this team. Curry was always as highly regarded if not more than Cooke. Curry takes a back seat to no one and is a very talented player at a premium position. He has acquitted himself well in head to head matchups against the POY favorite Green as well. The other players are talented and skilled. Don't underestimate this group. They have a redshirt player in Snowden who is very talented as well, Kangni with development has the potential to be very good as do the two incoming recruits.

Confused by your post. You don't foresee a drop off next year while Brady figures out who can successfully run the point? Morgan, McLean and the freshman are all unknowns.

Losing Curry will be tough no doubt- he's one of the better players to ever play at JMU. That said I was accounting for his loss with the fact that we will see improvement from McLean and Morgan the end of this year and in the off season and that Shepherd is supposed to be an immediate contributor accounting to scouting services (think Holden at Delaware as a Freshman).

Even with the step back in PG the Dukes will have a ton of Seniors next year including Brown and Kent on the wings and Serb, YoYo, Satkius and Vodo up front. That size and experience will be tough for teams to deal with. Plus you add Snowden who is supposed to have 1st team CAA type talent. They will be good again next year. I think guys will step up and they will find a go to guy when the shot clock winds down to replace Curry.

(01-27-2016 06:36 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:03 AM)PGJMU Wrote:  boy, I love the love fest for Brady. it would be interesting if someone could dig up the Brady bashing threads. As I recall, there were many haters and only a few of us who had faith in Matt. Dukes84, NJDuke97 & JMU98 were about the only believers I remember.

All that said, a win Thursday would go a long way. This is the biggest meaningful home game in a long time.

my, my, my - can't you just have a complimentary thread without all that stuff......

I'm not going to go negative rehash the entire tenure everyone knows, but I will generally say to the brotherhood -

If you told me or most people on these boards the first 7 years under Matt we would get no NIT appearances and one NCAA appearance and that as a #16 seed - I think just about everyone including myself would of said - "what's the next option?". Throw in all the baggage - and it makes it worse. Oh yeah, don't forget no ODU, VCU, or GMU for the 2nd half his tenure. Excitement for the program is less than of that for the Women.

Who told what to who?

I think he's finally heading in the right direction, but still has not gotten there - but getting closer.

Just wanted a deserved complimentary thread.......

Even the most optimistic fans who gave Brady the benefit of the doubt had concerns and were frustrated. I remember for me it was a lethargic effort early in the season vs. UNCW where I was ready to turn the page- but they have made progress and there is no denying that.

PG: What about me? I have supported Matt almost as much as you. I had some doubts the year he won the tourney but I never flat out said he should be fired and I always have wanted to see him succeed.

I am ecstatic to see him have success for a second straight year. If he wins another CAA title this year, that is two titles in four years which should be seen as impressive by anyone's standards.

I agree with my buddy Dukester that this season has been really good so far and that MB deserves a lot of credit for finally having a team that plays tough defense and rebounds well. We also shoot well from a team standpoint and on any given night one of 8 different players is capable of a 20 point night.

But, I will wait until the end of the season to really weigh in. Too much basketball yet to be played. I do like this group, though and have said so since early on.

(01-27-2016 08:26 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  PG: What about me? I have supported Matt almost as much as you. I had some doubts the year he won the tourney but I never flat out said he should be fired and I always have wanted to see him succeed.

I am ecstatic to see him have success for a second straight year. If he wins another CAA title this year, that is two titles in four years which should be seen as impressive by anyone's standards.

Not true .... you posted that he and JMU should part ways back in 2014. See Thread called "Coach Matt Brady".

I've been behind Matt most of the way. Though, I get down on him when we lose a couple games every season where we are a clear favorite. The most positive thing about Matt is his willingness to talk straight and not give you a bunch of BS. Though, don't even attempt to converse about anything other than MBB. He's a junkie and that is all that's on his mind. He's also very good with the media. Probably the oddest thing about his character is the debacle with his Marist contract. It just doesn't seem like MB to have had that happen, but it is way behind us.

Please dont use Marist against him, they were just as much at fault or more so than he. Marist is low budget poorly operated athletic dept. (other than womens hoops)

(01-27-2016 10:27 PM)The Purple Wave Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 08:26 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  PG: What about me? I have supported Matt almost as much as you. I had some doubts the year he won the tourney but I never flat out said he should be fired and I always have wanted to see him succeed.

I am ecstatic to see him have success for a second straight year. If he wins another CAA title this year, that is two titles in four years which should be seen as impressive by anyone's standards.

Not true .... you posted that he and JMU should part ways back in 2014. See Thread called "Coach Matt Brady".

Dog gone history.

PW: I read the post you have referenced. There was a lot more in what I said then how you are presenting it. Four paragraphs worth of commentary by me. Like I said, there have been times of doubt but even in the post you reference there are several supportive things I said about Matt. I also did not say fire Matt. I said both parties could use a fresh start.

The written word can be interpreted different ways by each reader. I know how I feel about Matt. There are a significant number of posts by me in support of him not to mention the hundreds of conversations between PG and myself that you were not present for.

I stand by what I said here but really appreciate you putting my words under a microscope in an effort to call me out. So very kind of you.

(01-29-2016 01:40 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  PW: I read the post you have referenced. There was a lot more in what I said then how you are presenting it. Four paragraphs worth of commentary by me. Like I said, there have been times of doubt but even in the post you reference there are several supportive things I said about Matt. I also did not say fire Matt. I said both parties could use a fresh start.

The written word can be interpreted different ways by each reader. I know how I feel about Matt. There are a significant number of posts by me in support of him not to mention the hundreds of conversations between PG and myself that you were not present for.

I stand by what I said here but really appreciate you putting my words under a microscope in an effort to call me out. So very kind of you.

(Please don't take offense Dolley) but guys are allowed to change their minds when circumstances change. You have no need to defend yourself against anyone Nation.

My opinion of Brady is simply formed by having attended JMU during the Lefty era and having high expectations for our program. Like many of you I have witnessed first hand had great our MBB can be with the right effort. It's been sh!t for 20 years and JMU deserves better.

If I'm critical of Matt it's because I'm focused on results. Might be a great guy, great coach, great spelunker, but none of that changes the mixed and mediocre (IMO) results of the last 7 1/2 years. He's pulled the program out of oblivion but until I see consistent domination in our one-bid mid-major small-time conference I'm not sold. If he suddenly turned things around I'd be singing a different tune because the product and results would be in line with my expectations. They're my expectations and I'm entitled to them, just as those of you who experienced the last couple of decades may be satisfied with making the CAT post-season tournament and losing to a community college.

(01-29-2016 01:40 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  PW: I read the post you have referenced. There was a lot more in what I said then how you are presenting it. Four paragraphs worth of commentary by me. Like I said, there have been times of doubt but even in the post you reference there are several supportive things I said about Matt. I also did not say fire Matt. I said both parties could use a fresh start.

The written word can be interpreted different ways by each reader. I know how I feel about Matt. There are a significant number of posts by me in support of him not to mention the hundreds of conversations between PG and myself that you were not present for.

I stand by what I said here but really appreciate you putting my words under a microscope in an effort to call me out. So very kind of you.

Facts are stubborn sometimes. When you post on a message board that you have never said that Matt should be fired in one post and in another post you say that JMU and Matt should part ways, it is completely fair for someone to point that out I have no issue with you changing your mind but when you post a message looking for someone to recognize your history of support, even though you said nice things about him, you obviously didn't support him being the coach back then. In fact, you were suggesting he leave or be fired. Don't need a microscope to see that contradiction. Not sure why you are taking this personal. It is a fricken message board.

I did not say he should be fired. Go back and re-read the post.

The marriage between Matt and JMU has been a tenuous one. The admin has never fully committed to him and Matt has not been able to build a consistent winner. A mutual parting of the ways is not a firing. It is two parties that recognize that neither is really happy with the relationship.

I also admitted that I have had moments of doubt but in the end, I come back to feeling that Matt is a good coach and a good person.

PG and I talk every week and he knows how I feel about Matt's coaching ability which is why I responded to his post in the first place.

I struggle with why you would take the time to research my history of posting to discredit a comment I made. Did you research everyone else on this thread to see if they ever made a disparaging comment about Matt? Why did you single me out? If you were some random dude, I would just think you were a guy with no life and time on your hands. You are a long time friend trying to make me look bad. What gets more personal than that?

(01-30-2016 01:08 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I did not say he should be fired. Go back and re-read the post.

The marriage between Matt and JMU has been a tenuous one. The admin has never fully committed to him and Matt has not been able to build a consistent winner. A mutual parting of the ways is not a firing. It is two parties that recognize that neither is really happy with the relationship.

I also admitted that I have had moments of doubt but in the end, I come back to feeling that Matt is a good coach and a good person.

PG and I talk every week and he knows how I feel about Matt's coaching ability which is why I responded to his post in the first place.

I struggle with why you would take the time to research my history of posting to discredit a comment I made. Did you research everyone else on this thread to see if they ever made a disparaging comment about Matt? Why did you single me out? If you were some random dude, I would just think you were a guy with no life and time on your hands. You are a long time friend trying to make me look bad. What gets more personal than that?

Obviously you are taking this personally for some reason. Please keep in mind this is a message board. It is where people banter back and forth. People don't posts on message boards to look bad or look good or to be validated in some way. It is to communicate information. But yes we are friends and it surprised me to see you write that you have always been a Brady supporter. I recalled you distinctly telling me the opposite so I did a quick search and found the quote. You can try to split hairs by saying "part ways" doesn't indicate that he should be "fired" but suggesting we should "part ways" is not supporting Matt Brady. Not trying to make you look bad at all - just pointing out a contradiction. Please don't take it personal.