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Perhaps the most brilliant theory I've heard on the franchise.

And when you consider some key things said and done by Jar Jar in Ep 1-3, there is some very cool and well placed evidence there. Plus the forgotten line of Obi-wan to Qui-gon at the beginning of episode 1, where he says he senses something, not of the mission, but more vague, "elusive" he says.

Qui-gon chastises him to concentrate on the moment instead.

Wiki says the first Sith to be called "Darth" was Darth Bane, who was able to hide himself among his enemies for many years. Because they never knew who he was or if/when he was one of them, thus he was surnamed "Darth".

This would be the game Plagueis played from BEFORE episode 1, manipulating Palpatine the entire time, making him think he had killed him while hiding in the least expected characters possible. Secretly manipulating all 6 prequels (including creating Anakin) to finally reveal himself in the final 3.

The force is truly "awaken" now in the final days of the saga, being more openly available to both the dark and light sides of the force. This ties in with what we saw in EP 8 as Kylo Ren is far less trained an unstable (even his light saber is a bit unstable), yet can call on the force with incredible ease. Rey and Finn have NO training and Rey in particular used the force in a way not seen in previous moves for a beginner.
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Some of these are just fascinating, You can clearly see Jar Jar secretly feeding people words from behind them.
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Perhaps the most brilliant theory I've heard on the franchise.

And when you consider some key things said and done by Jar Jar in Ep 1-3, there is some very cool and well placed evidence there. Plus the forgotten line of Obi-wan to Qui-gon at the beginning of episode 1, where he says he senses something, not of the mission, but more vague, "elusive" he says.

Qui-gon chastises him to concentrate on the moment instead.

Wiki says the first Sith to be called "Darth" was Darth Bane, who was able to hide himself among his enemies for many years. Because they never knew who he was or if/when he was one of them, thus he was surnamed "Darth".

This would be the game Plagueis played from BEFORE episode 1, manipulating Palpatine the entire time, making him think he had killed him while hiding in the least expected characters possible. Secretly manipulating all 6 prequels (including creating Anakin) to finally reveal himself in the final 3.

The force is truly "awaken" now in the final days of the saga, being more openly available to both the dark and light sides of the force. This ties in with what we saw in EP 8 as Kylo Ren is far less trained an unstable (even his light saber is a bit unstable), yet can call on the force with incredible ease. Rey and Finn have NO training and Rey in particular used the force in a way not seen in previous moves for a beginner.

It would certainly be a left-field theory, but I don't think there is much merit to it. I kinda think the theory of Palpatine successfully killing Plagueis after he was taught how to influence the midi-chlorians to create life. Palpatine then created Anakin and set the whole thing in motion.
It goes hand in hand with the theory about the Jedi being misguided in trying to eliminate the Sith and others using the dark side of the force altogether rather than reaching a balance as is stated throughout all of the movies. It also fits nicely with how so many of the characters seem to fluctuate between and struggle with the light and dark side.
Personally I hope that is how it is played out through the next movies. The entire skywalker lineage is the force attempting to balance itself out in response to both the dark and light side trying to eradicate the other. I think Luke has either figured this out on his own, or been told by Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Anakin and that's why he disappeared. Rey will end up being Obi-Wan's granddaughter that influences Luke to return, probably to deal with Snoke (Palpatine perhaps or another character similar to Maz that is familiar with the force but neither a Jedi or Sith) and then be killed (or sacrifice himself like Obi-Wan did) in a battle with Kilo Ren. Rey and Ren fight, unable to destroy the other eventually reach some sort of balance. Alternately they kill each other and the midi-chloreans choose not 'interfere' any longer and knowledge of the force kinda fades away.
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While great fanon, the evacuation of Jar Jar was so bad as be irredeemable.
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(01-26-2016 09:49 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  While great fanon, the evacuation of Jar Jar was so bad as be irredeemable.
Agree. He was put in for little kids. I can't see him being any kind of mastermind
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I liked this better when it was called the Usual Suspects.
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you D&D fellers are some interesting folk....
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(01-26-2016 01:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you D&D fellers are some interesting folk....

whats D&D?
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I couldn't possibly imagine Lucas was this clever. Additionally, the writers and directors of the future movies have said that Jar Jar has no role going forward.
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(01-26-2016 01:53 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 01:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you D&D fellers are some interesting folk....

whats D&D?

fantasy land of dungeons and dragons....
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(01-26-2016 02:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 01:53 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 01:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you D&D fellers are some interesting folk....

whats D&D?

fantasy land of dungeons and dragons....

That I know nothing of. Star Wars though I have to admit it was quite exciting watching VII last week. It's the first one I've seen in the theater.
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(01-26-2016 02:48 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 02:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 01:53 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 01:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you D&D fellers are some interesting folk....

whats D&D?

fantasy land of dungeons and dragons....

That I know nothing of. Star Wars though I have to admit it was quite exciting watching VII last week. It's the first one I've seen in the theater.

I saw the first one....it was entertaining when I was 11....

btw, D&D was a fantasy board game.....
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(01-26-2016 03:18 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  btw, D&D was a fantasy board game.....

I don't think there was a board involved.
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(01-26-2016 02:36 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I couldn't possibly imagine Lucas was this clever. Additionally, the writers and directors of the future movies have said that Jar Jar has no role going forward.


Why would he?

The point here is that Jar Jar is Snoke

Snoke and Jar Jar were Plageuis all along. Plageuis the wise learned to manipulate the force to escape death and hid among his allies AND enemies.

I don't know if its true or not, but its a brilliant and fascinating theory. And there is some meat on the bone when looking at some of these clips.
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Perhaps the most brilliant theory I've heard on the franchise.

And when you consider some key things said and done by Jar Jar in Ep 1-3, there is some very cool and well placed evidence there. Plus the forgotten line of Obi-wan to Qui-gon at the beginning of episode 1, where he says he senses something, not of the mission, but more vague, "elusive" he says.

Qui-gon chastises him to concentrate on the moment instead.

Wiki says the first Sith to be called "Darth" was Darth Bane, who was able to hide himself among his enemies for many years. Because they never knew who he was or if/when he was one of them, thus he was surnamed "Darth".

This would be the game Plagueis played from BEFORE episode 1, manipulating Palpatine the entire time, making him think he had killed him while hiding in the least expected characters possible. Secretly manipulating all 6 prequels (including creating Anakin) to finally reveal himself in the final 3.

The force is truly "awaken" now in the final days of the saga, being more openly available to both the dark and light sides of the force. This ties in with what we saw in EP 8 as Kylo Ren is far less trained an unstable (even his light saber is a bit unstable), yet can call on the force with incredible ease. Rey and Finn have NO training and Rey in particular used the force in a way not seen in previous moves for a beginner.

It seems that your theories about Star Wars are almost as crazy as your Biblical theories....
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I can't stand jar jar. Biggest turd of the entire series. If he is in any more episodes I will be officially done with the series.
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(01-26-2016 11:33 AM)Hitch Wrote:  I liked this better when it was called the Usual Suspects.


There are striking similarities in the themes.

The famous line at the end of Usual Suspects...

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he never existed".

yep
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(01-26-2016 10:14 PM)blah Wrote:  It seems that your theories about Star Wars are almost as crazy as your Biblical theories....



Ironic,

Just like those threads, a troll comes along and gives me me credit for other peoples stuff.

This is a youtube theory from a lot of different people and I have no idea if its true, its just really interesting.

I knew some here would find it interesting as well.
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(01-26-2016 03:58 PM)Hitch Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 03:18 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  btw, D&D was a fantasy board game.....

I don't think there was a board involved.
Correct. No board. Was pretty fun but preferred Shadowrun.
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