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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 05:31 PM)dgpro Wrote: Oh please, Sam took Martin's spot because he's a better player. Who knows why josh hasn't played jeremiah. Kid is great defender but in inept on the offensive side of the floor and needs to add some pounds. Im sure its some sort of "internal matter" as usual though
That's not the point of the thread. Playing Sam and playing Jeremiah does not have to be mutually exclusive, Jeremiah can play the 2 or even the 3.
They both fight hard through screens, if fighting through screens is an emphasis within our defense it would seems like you would find minutes for one of the two guys on the team who actually do it consistently. Martin isn't any worse on offense that Markel. If you take Markel out for not fighting through the screen(he only got 10 minutes Sunday), do you give those minutes to someone who does fight through screens or do you give those minutes to another player who has always been a liability on defense (Woodson got 31 minutes sunday).
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
Well, on the positive side, that's what they all when they are fixin to be gone.
It's kind of like the last stage.
But honestly, it's very close to insisting you are a good coach while the team crumbles.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
So if he says game-specifics about things he saw as problems in the game, it's strictly throwing players under the bus and he should shut up. If he doesn't say those things it's "he has no clue and just says 'we gotta make shots' ". Too general is bad, and too specific is bad. What's the "right" post-game presser? "Well, *somebody* didn't get through their screens" or just "Well, I'm a terrible coach and we lost because I didn't prepare the guys"?
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
I think this is a true sign that Josh is out and he knows it. jmo
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
When Randall came into the game I knew Josh had no idea what to do...
It was throw crap at the wall time.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:09 PM)hollywoodTiger Wrote: So if he says game-specifics about things he saw as problems in the game, it's strictly throwing players under the bus and he should shut up. If he doesn't say those things it's "he has no clue and just says 'we gotta make shots' ". Too general is bad, and too specific is bad. What's the "right" post-game presser? "Well, *somebody* didn't get through their screens" or just "Well, I'm a terrible coach and we lost because I didn't prepare the guys"?
When you start calling out specific players instead of the whole team, the team might decide to rally around the one he's picking on. Does he, for example, pick on AW in national interviews.
I don't listen to the interviews and always have the sound muted now, so my question is an honest one.
Basketball is a team sport...it's petty to single out one 3 second incident that happened on a court of fast moving players.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:17 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote: I think this is a true sign that Josh is out and he knows it. jmo
True sign of a narcissist.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:17 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote: I think this is a true sign that Josh is out and he knows it. jmo
It's not the first time he has thrown a player under the bus.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:50 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote: (01-25-2016 06:17 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote: I think this is a true sign that Josh is out and he knows it. jmo
True sign of a narcissist.
yup...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:51 PM)tiger2000 Wrote: (01-25-2016 06:17 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote: I think this is a true sign that Josh is out and he knows it. jmo
It's not the first time he has thrown a player under the bus.
And it keeps on happening so Josh can justify the losses. He should be taking the heat for the loss; not singling out players.
Not a good thing for our coach to do.
The boys need to know their coach has their backs.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 05:28 PM)idroot4russia Wrote: (01-25-2016 05:17 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: I haven't seen anyone work through screens the past four or five years like Sam Craft.
Then you haven't been watching Jeremiah Martin.
Actually, nobody has been watching Martin for the last 4 games.
That's because he is NOT READY TO PLAY. We are hampered enough with our coach-let the kid develop.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
JP recruited these players, he coaches these players. Markel played uninspired D but only played 10 mins. I can name 6-7 other guys who all played either uninspired D or dumb D for most of the game as individuals & as team D - again JP is the coach. JPs team is 8-10 guys deep better than ECU in terms of talent. No excuses, I'm throwing the coach & the players under the bus for the ECU game - just awful all around. I said "I'm" throwing the team & the coach under the bus, JP as the coach can't do that & expect to get these guys motivated.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:09 PM)hollywoodTiger Wrote: So if he says game-specifics about things he saw as problems in the game, it's strictly throwing players under the bus and he should shut up. If he doesn't say those things it's "he has no clue and just says 'we gotta make shots' ". Too general is bad, and too specific is bad. What's the "right" post-game presser? "Well, *somebody* didn't get through their screens" or just "Well, I'm a terrible coach and we lost because I didn't prepare the guys"?
Acknowledge mistakes. Say what we did right and wrong. Talk about the general plan of any play you want but don't single out any player.
It's only been the blueprint for media relations for 50 years
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:51 PM)tiger2000 Wrote: (01-25-2016 06:17 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote: I think this is a true sign that Josh is out and he knows it. jmo
It's not the first time he has thrown a player under the bus.
It’s one reason a Busload of players left last season.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
Josh is wrong on this for one reason, he had a guy who swallowed blood while shooting free throws to win a game sitting on the bench the final play. I have no issues with Crawford sitting on the bench but the other is a head scratcher. Ricky has to be in games down stretch with ball in his hands to give us best chance to win.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 09:37 PM)jgardne Wrote: (01-25-2016 06:09 PM)hollywoodTiger Wrote: So if he says game-specifics about things he saw as problems in the game, it's strictly throwing players under the bus and he should shut up. If he doesn't say those things it's "he has no clue and just says 'we gotta make shots' ". Too general is bad, and too specific is bad. What's the "right" post-game presser? "Well, *somebody* didn't get through their screens" or just "Well, I'm a terrible coach and we lost because I didn't prepare the guys"?
Acknowledge mistakes. Say what we did right and wrong. Talk about the general plan of any play you want but don't single out any player.
It's only been the blueprint for media relations for 50 years
+3. You don't single out players by name. It screams "I am deflecting."
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:23 PM)macgar32 Wrote: When Randall came into the game I knew Josh had no idea what to do...
It was throw crap at the wall time.
And why Randall and Marshall at same time? Neither had played to speak of in 5 games. Flashed through my mind that Pastner didn't care if we won or not. Just get a message across.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 11:01 PM)memphomike Wrote: Josh is wrong on this for one reason, he had a guy who swallowed blood while shooting free throws to win a game sitting on the bench the final play. I have no issues with Crawford sitting on the bench but the other is a head scratcher. Ricky has to be in games down stretch with ball in his hands to give us best chance to win.
Ricky has not been Ricky since that game. I think he has 2 points in the game and only took a handful of shots. Hasn't recovered from the hard foul.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-26-2016 12:00 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (01-25-2016 11:01 PM)memphomike Wrote: Josh is wrong on this for one reason, he had a guy who swallowed blood while shooting free throws to win a game sitting on the bench the final play. I have no issues with Crawford sitting on the bench but the other is a head scratcher. Ricky has to be in games down stretch with ball in his hands to give us best chance to win.
Ricky has not been Ricky since that game. I think he has 2 points in the game and only took a handful of shots. Hasn't recovered from the hard foul.
You finally posted something I agree with.
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RE: Josh throws Markel under the bus for not fighting through a screen
(01-25-2016 06:09 PM)hollywoodTiger Wrote: So if he says game-specifics about things he saw as problems in the game, it's strictly throwing players under the bus and he should shut up. If he doesn't say those things it's "he has no clue and just says 'we gotta make shots' ". Too general is bad, and too specific is bad. What's the "right" post-game presser? "Well, *somebody* didn't get through their screens" or just "Well, I'm a terrible coach and we lost because I didn't prepare the guys"?
Thing is when you have one or two players not doing something you do not get onto the entire team. You get onto the players who are not doing the job. The others are busting their asses and doing what is asked of them.
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