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As many of you might know, or not, the University of Texas has secretly purchased 200 acres of land a few miles from the University of Houston (another state public school) to build a campus. When asked about it they said it was a "research campus only" but when painted in corner they basically admitted that they will offer undergraduate courses and we are all sure this is an attempt to establish a University of Texas- Houston.

Well, UH leaders and politicians have just ended an extensive week of public hearings in Austin in an attempt to prevent this UT-Houston from ever happening. I won't get into State politics but UT gets an embarrassing amount of STATE TAXES for their system and their system alone. Their attitude in athletics is the exact same way they treat other state schools in the state of Texas...THEY ARE BULLIES!!

Anyway, I would really appreciate your help in helping one of your conference mates. We need signatures on this petition and the more support we get the more likelihood we can prevent the evil UT empire from encroaching into Coog Nation.

Thanks in advance.
https://www.change.org/p/texas-legislatu...-expansion
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01-24-2016 10:31 PM
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Write your rep and have them get rid of the 10% rule for Texas and that will help. UT has to put those kids somewhere.

News here in Austin is they want to shrink not grow. UTA and UTSA are full

And signed.
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(01-24-2016 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Write your rep and have them get rid of the 10% rule for Texas and that will help. UT has to put those kids somewhere.

Guess your reporters were sleeping as this has been known for a year

Yes, how about UT- San Antonio, UT- El Paso, UT- Dallas, etc,

UT has the right to build a campus in ANY other city in Texas EXCEPT for those that are already serviced by LARGE STATE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
So, that eliminates their need to establish a college campus in College Station (Texas A&M), Houston (University of Houston), Lubbock (Texas Tech) and Texas State (San Marcos). This is a waste of tax payer's money, creates redundancy, and only hurts the educational product.

Build a UT- Woodlands or whatever, just stay away from the area controlled by the University of Houston.
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I edited my post by the way

UT-H will not amount to anything.
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(01-24-2016 10:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I edited my post by the way

UT-H will not amount to anything.

Thanks for your support, Pony.
Coogs are beyond furious by this move by UT.
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It's a waste of taxpayer money.
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UH already does a ton of research. They need build a straight up commuter school for pupils throughout the area. Either that or take over a school that's already open and probably underfunded and underperforming (Texas Southern) or back up the Brinks truck and pay UH's admins whatever it takes to take over the system, which actually makes the most sense even if diehard UH athletics fans and prideful alums would fight that tooth and nail.

They could also turn the Galveston medical branch into a full fledged university.
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Is another university being located in Houston a real problem, or is it just because it's UT?
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Free UTH
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UT-H to the B1G!
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(01-25-2016 09:42 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Is another university being located in Houston an real problem, or is it just because it's UT?
It shouldn't be. Houston is a large city that has room for multiple top-tier institutions. Opening a new institution in Houston should be good for everyone and draw more researchers to the city.

When Texas A&M opened a new university near UTSA, it was applauded as a positive thing for San Antonio. I don't see why this wouldn't be good for the city of Houston.
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(01-25-2016 09:42 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Is another university being located in Houston a real problem, or is it just because it's UT?

I'll just leave this here and you decide how shady UT is.....

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/...prime.html

And yes part of it is because it's UT but in reality it would be any school wasting so much tax money and acting so arrogant. It's just that UT is the only one this ballsy to try this crap!
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(01-25-2016 10:19 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 09:42 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Is another university being located in Houston an real problem, or is it just because it's UT?
It shouldn't be. Houston is a large city that has room for multiple top-tier institutions. Opening a new institution in Houston should be good for everyone and draw more researchers to the city.

When Texas A&M opened a new university near UTSA, it was applauded as a positive thing for San Antonio. I don't see why this wouldn't be good for the city of Houston.

Read this and see if this changes your opinion.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/...prime.html

Edit: This is a more detailed article

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morni...-land.html
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....so much for that Big 12 invite.....
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What will the new UTH mascot be?

I like chupacabras

UH should offer to share their stadium until UTH can build one. Good for civic pride
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(01-25-2016 11:00 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:19 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 09:42 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Is another university being located in Houston an real problem, or is it just because it's UT?
It shouldn't be. Houston is a large city that has room for multiple top-tier institutions. Opening a new institution in Houston should be good for everyone and draw more researchers to the city.

When Texas A&M opened a new university near UTSA, it was applauded as a positive thing for San Antonio. I don't see why this wouldn't be good for the city of Houston.

Read this and see if this changes your opinion.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/...prime.html
Perhaps I'm not emotionally involved and that clouds my judgement but "game changer" and catalyst for development" for the area don't give me negative vibes.
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(01-25-2016 11:38 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 11:00 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:19 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 09:42 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Is another university being located in Houston an real problem, or is it just because it's UT?
It shouldn't be. Houston is a large city that has room for multiple top-tier institutions. Opening a new institution in Houston should be good for everyone and draw more researchers to the city.

When Texas A&M opened a new university near UTSA, it was applauded as a positive thing for San Antonio. I don't see why this wouldn't be good for the city of Houston.

Read this and see if this changes your opinion.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/...prime.html
Perhaps I'm not emotionally involved and that clouds my judgement but "game changer" and catalyst for development" for the area don't give me negative vibes.

It has as much to do with overpaying million upon millions of dollars to a UT donor using state tax dollars allotted to UT and to a smaller extent A&M as well. A fund that any other public institution in Texas does not have access to.

In Houston right now we have UH, Rice, TSU, Houston Baptist, St. Thomas, Etc.

There are already plenty of options for people to further their education and those don't count all the community colleges we have (as does any good sized metro area).

Let's put it this way it would be like Tennessee setting up shop at the Memphis Zoo. I'm not from the area so that was the closest landmark I could find that would correlate to the proximity to this overpaid/kickback "research" campus.

The more they are pressed for details the more the backdoor dealings and true purpose of this campus comes out. The land was valued at 39 million and UT is paying over 200 million. Sorry thought that article went into more details.

this is a more detailed explanation.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morni...-land.html
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(01-25-2016 01:21 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  UH already does a ton of research. They need build a straight up commuter school for pupils throughout the area. Either that or take over a school that's already open and probably underfunded and underperforming (Texas Southern) or back up the Brinks truck and pay UH's admins whatever it takes to take over the system, which actually makes the most sense even if diehard UH athletics fans and prideful alums would fight that tooth and nail.

They could also turn the Galveston medical branch into a full fledged university.

We already have straight up commuter schools, too - that's what UHD and UHCL are for. Maybe they could build one that primarily serviced North or West Houston?
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(01-25-2016 10:19 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 09:42 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Is another university being located in Houston an real problem, or is it just because it's UT?
It shouldn't be. Houston is a large city that has room for multiple top-tier institutions. Opening a new institution in Houston should be good for everyone and draw more researchers to the city.

When Texas A&M opened a new university near UTSA, it was applauded as a positive thing for San Antonio. I don't see why this wouldn't be good for the city of Houston.

Because the state tax payers are paying the cost to buy land and build expensive structures that replicate existing facilities already serving the same purpose in the area. There wasnt a large major public university in San Antonio prior to UTSA. So, of course it was welcomed----It made sense there.

In Houston, we already a major public Tier One university. There isn't a need for an entirely new public 332 acre university---there is a need to better fund the already existing universities that we (the tax payers) have already paid for. This move may end up exposing the inequities of PUF funding and the wastefulness and inefficiencies such an inequitable funding system generates. It seems to me if UT has excess money to spend on such wasteful projects, then UT is probably terribly overfunded. The biggest problem in Texas is the biggest bucket of funds for higher education is the 10 billion dollar PUF (Permanent University Fund). That bucket of funds grows every year and is only for UT and A&M (UT gets 2/3rds of that). The reality is, it causes a situation where the rest of the schools are underfunded and UT is over funded. Its hard to properly balance the funds when the largest bucket of funds is constitutionally guaranteed to one institution. At some point, that's going to have to change.
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(01-25-2016 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  What will the new UTH mascot be?

I like chupacabras

UH should offer to share their stadium until UTH can build one. Good for civic pride

They wont need to build a stadium. The land is virtually across the street from Reliant Stadium.
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