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Seems to me that to maintain some kind of acedemic integrity in C-USA there should be some kind of ruling on this partial qualifier policy.

http://pilotonline.com/sports/high-schoo...e2245.html

(01-22-2016 06:51 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  Seems to me that to maintain some kind of acedemic integrity in C-USA there should be some kind of ruling on this partial qualifier policy.

http://pilotonline.com/sports/high-schoo...e2245.html

I see they have updated the article with more background information. This is humbling to Marshall academics. Their coach is literally telling recruits you do not have to be a good student here to qualify to play.

(01-22-2016 09:02 PM)ODU FrontRunner Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 06:51 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  Seems to me that to maintain some kind of acedemic integrity in C-USA there should be some kind of ruling on this partial qualifier policy.

http://pilotonline.com/sports/high-schoo...e2245.html

I see they have updated the article with more background information. This is humbling to Marshall academics. Their coach is literally telling recruits you do not have to be a good student here to qualify to play.

I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

(01-23-2016 01:43 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

Do you think ODU doesn't have ANY "academically challenged" student-athletes?

(01-23-2016 09:41 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 01:43 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

Do you think ODU doesn't have ANY "academically challenged" student-athletes?

They also tell them that they will play on day 1. There is no academic redshirt at Marshall. The Thundering Terds allow partial qualifiers to play just like FECESU does in basketball.

(01-23-2016 01:43 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

Everyone should have an opportunity to improve or better themselves (even at a university). I've had more gains being in the company of people who would be considered superior to me in a certain field or skill. If you learn from the best, practice with best, and perform with the best, you have no choice but to improve. That being said, it's totally up to the individual what they do with that opportunity. Time and chance happens to us all. I wish the young man good luck. His family should be able to see more of his games with him coming to Norfolk every other year.

(01-23-2016 09:47 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:41 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 01:43 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

Do you think ODU doesn't have ANY "academically challenged" student-athletes?

They also tell them that they will play on day 1. There is no academic redshirt at Marshall. The Thundering Terds allow partial qualifiers to play just like FECESU does in basketball.

This isn't exactly true. College athletes cannot play their first year if they are not full qualifiers.

(01-23-2016 09:47 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:41 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 01:43 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

Do you think ODU doesn't have ANY "academically challenged" student-athletes?

They also tell them that they will play on day 1. There is no academic redshirt at Marshall. The Thundering Terds allow partial qualifiers to play just like FECESU does in basketball.

Every institution (including VCU) has the option to take a nonqualifer or partial qualifier. The new rules now allow schools to honor scholarship commitments to students. Meaning if a kid is a nonqualifer, the school can still scholarship them and they can't play or practice that first year. Hence the academic redshirt

(01-23-2016 09:51 AM)ODUi Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 01:43 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

Everyone should have an opportunity to improve or better themselves (even at a university). I've had more gains being in the company of people who would be considered superior to me in a certain field or skill. If you learn from the best, practice with best, and perform with the best, you have no choice but to improve. That being said, it's totally up to the individual what they do with that opportunity. Time and chance happens to us all. I wish the young man good luck. His family should be able to see more of his games with him coming to Norfolk every other year.

I suppose Mark Strome should never been let into ODU because he struggled in High School. Never mind that he got his act together while attending ODU and later UC Berkeley.

College is a lot of people grow up and learn responsibility. Just because someone slacks in High School, doesn't mean that they won't learn the hard way and start to get their priorities straight. Some people just bloom later than others.

(01-23-2016 10:50 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:51 AM)ODUi Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 01:43 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 09:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  I don't see it that way. I see it as Marshall taking advantage of the academic redshirt that partial qualifiers and nonqualifers must fulfill.

http://blog.ncaa.org/GetTheGrades/#intro

I think everyone would agree that a year at the institution with practice and no play/travel is a better way for an academically challenged student to be successful in college instead of spending two years at a juco

"Academically challenged" students have no place studying at a university.

Everyone should have an opportunity to improve or better themselves (even at a university). I've had more gains being in the company of people who would be considered superior to me in a certain field or skill. If you learn from the best, practice with best, and perform with the best, you have no choice but to improve. That being said, it's totally up to the individual what they do with that opportunity. Time and chance happens to us all. I wish the young man good luck. His family should be able to see more of his games with him coming to Norfolk every other year.

I suppose Mark Strome should never been let into ODU because he struggled in High School. Never mind that he got his act together while attending ODU and later UC Berkeley.

College is a lot of people grow up and learn responsibility. Just because someone slacks in High School, doesn't mean that they won't learn the hard way and start to get their priorities straight. Some people just bloom later than others.

Yep. I was a B- / C+ student in high school (mostly because it bored me silly.) One summer of working as a cook at Shoney's convinced me that I needed to go to college. And since I was paying for it, I took it more seriously.