I don't know about that. Obviously you need great defense and scoring to win games. If a team isn't going to allow you shots in the paint, sometimes you work for the open three, assuming you have someone who can shoot and make it.

It's like football. If a team is going to stack the box, and outnumber you at the line of scrimmage, you're probably going to pass the ball.
If they're playing to stop your passing, you run. In other words, you take what the other team is giving you.

Same in basketball. If you can get an easy bucket around the basket, you take it, but if you can't, the three is another option, assuming you have a three point shooter. Our men's team has several. Unfortunately our women's team doesn't even have one who's consistent. That's one reason why the men are winning the women losing.

(01-22-2016 12:59 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  I don't know about that. Obviously you need great defense and scoring to win games. If a team isn't going to allow you shots in the paint, sometimes you work for the open three, assuming you have someone who can shoot and make it.

It's like football. If a team is going to stack the box, and outnumber you at the line of scrimmage, you're probably going to pass the ball.
If they're playing to stop your passing, you run. In other words, you take what the other team is giving you.

Same in basketball. If you can get an easy bucket around the basket, you take it, but if you can't, the three is another option, assuming you have a three point shooter. Our men's team has several. Unfortunately our women's team doesn't even have one who's consistent. That's one reason why the men are winning the women losing.

Good example is our women. They aren't good shooters, so we have to go to our bigs, and they have had to be our scoring the past few games, and it hasn't been enough. Bless her heart, Shanity can't make layups or shoot free throws. If she could, she could average 30 a game. She does rebound and scores despite just throwing the ball up on the backboard. I'd hate to not have her. Sometimes she's great.

Watch high school kids before a game. All they do is stand around the 3-point line and jack up long ones.

Katlyn Pratt has been really good the past two games, but as most basketball experts I ever heard say, in college basketball it's your guards that win games. In the pros it's more the big folks. Certainly you need good big folks to rebound and score some, but your guards control the game. We've had some good ones in the past, both men and women, and our men's team has some good ones now, and unfortunately the women's team's guard play has been less than stellar. Either the one's Coach Foley has now need to improve, or he's going to have to find some who are more productive.

(01-22-2016 01:12 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Watch high school kids before a game. All they do is stand around the 3-point line and jack up long ones.

Absolutely, even the big guys who probably never get that far out of the paint in a game situation. Everybody wants to shoot the three, even if it's just in warm ups.

Everybody can shoot the 3, but very few can make a good entry pass to a post man these days.

(01-22-2016 02:01 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Everybody can shoot the 3, but very few can make a good entry pass to a post man these days.

Still amazing to me as an old fan of the ABA New York Nets, while almost all my friends were Knick fans (kind of like being a Trojan fan in Arkansas). Anyway, most everyone thought the ABA's 3 point shot was a corny, promotional stunt to get the league some attention (I think, for the most part, it was). No one, back then, would have believed that in 2 or 3 decades the 3 point shot would be used all around the world at all levels of basketball.

Progress my friend. Progress. In my day you wouldn't dare dunk a ball because you'd get splinters in your fingers from the peach baskets. Actually I could dunk the ball in my day. Of course the baskets were only five feet high, but that's another story.

Tweaky and I saw County Line vs. Mulberry last night. CL has a very nice post player who is probably in the 6-4 to 6-5 range, and has a nice touch. Mulberry had little they could do to stop him in the low block. And, as usual, CL has a whole stable of outside shooters. So what does the big guy do at halftime? He sits out on the 3-point line and jacks up 3-pointers.

(01-22-2016 01:12 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Watch high school kids before a game. All they do is stand around the 3-point line and jack up long ones.

They probably figure they can make the short shots so they practice the three pointers. It bothers me that our women's team hardly ever if ever warm up shooting any three point shots. And they're terrible in the games. 3-16 this last game if I recall. If you're going to win games, you have to have it all. Inside and outside shooting. It's like a football program which never accepts the forward pass. Just run the ball and hope for the best. The game has changed through the years.
I can't agree that there are a lot of good three point shooters. I remember years when our men's team was lucky to have one. Got to diversify.